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dgiharris
05-07-2009, 11:07 PM
So,

I watched X-Men: Wolverine Origins the other day. It was o.k., prompting the discussion with Maestro about Comic Book movies starting to come to an end. We think that a collapse is inevitable.


Looking back, Hollywood must have made 3 - 4 Billion on this wave and they will probably make another Billion before the collapse.

So Get your crystal balls and start prognosticating.

What will come next?

What will be the next fad?

Or do you think we are stuck with Comic Book Movies and Remakes for the next decade

Mel...

Cyia
05-07-2009, 11:10 PM
Well, since they're already spinning off Dead Pool...

Sophia
05-07-2009, 11:11 PM
I hope we're stuck with them for the next decade. :) Comic book movies and remakes are films that I always get excited about and want to see. There aren't really many other films that do that to me any more. I pretty much always enjoy them and buy them. That adventure and childhood fun and imagination factor they have is a good thing, for me, and I'm happy with whatever they want to try!

CaroGirl
05-07-2009, 11:16 PM
I predict the next big trend will be films based on films that were based on graphic novels that were based on comics that were based on a combination of Japanese legends and Disney characters.

nevada
05-07-2009, 11:28 PM
Bromances. With the success of Pineapple Express and now I Love You, Man, I think the bromance is gonna be big. No longer will it be disguised as a cop buddy movie (lethal weapon) but be about the relationship between the guys. I Love You, Man was a great movie. I think there will be more great ones and plenty of horrid ones, with a few unintentially homoerotic ones thrown in (or will they be unintentional? I believe the makers of Top Gun knew exactly what they were doing with the volleyball scene)

Zoombie
05-07-2009, 11:52 PM
The Starcraft movie will be made and instantly make so much money, people's brains will explode from how much money it makes.

And then shall begin the era of Video Game Movies Taken Seriously (As the last era has been Comic Book Movies Taken Seriously)

Kitty Pryde
05-08-2009, 12:39 AM
I think they're gonna keep milking the remake of 1980s toy lines trend for a good while longer. When the live action My Little Ponies movie comes out, I shall declare that trend deceased. Also the boring unfunny white man-child comedy genre will keep kicking (as epitomized by anything with Michael Cera in it). I think there are going to continue to be more and more movies based on kids books, picture books and middle grade and young adult novels.

Oh yeah! And I think they're going to go for a bunch of biography movies, but they aren't blockbusters so they won't make as much money.

benbradley
05-08-2009, 01:11 AM
Not a big movie fan (though with all the hype and good review, I MIGHT go see Star Trek. After the crowds have thinned out), but here' my two cents based on others' comments:

I predict the next big trend will be films based on films that were based on graphic novels that were based on comics that were based on a combination of Japanese legends and Disney characters.
Astro Boy meets Mickey Mouse?

I think they're gonna keep milking the remake of 1980s toy lines trend for a good while longer.
A Rubik's Cube movie?

Kitty Pryde
05-08-2009, 01:16 AM
A Rubik's Cube movie?

Shh! Don't say it aloud! When you see RUBIKS 2015! The Movie! You will have NO ONE TO BLAME BUT YOURSELF!

nevada
05-08-2009, 01:31 AM
Shh! Don't say it aloud! When you see RUBIKS 2015! The Movie! You will have NO ONE TO BLAME BUT YOURSELF!

hmmm well since ridley scott is making a Monopoly movie and there's going to be a ouija board movie and there's rumblings of a snakes and ladders movie, could a rubik's cube movie be far behind? (chutes and ladders? would they use the old name of the new name? what's wrong with snakes anyway?)

maestrowork
05-08-2009, 01:38 AM
They're going to make live action of anime (especially the ones from the 70s and 80s). Oh sure, Speed Racer sucked and bombed, but there are so many other worthy ones to be made. Robotech would be a great one, now that Star Trek is alive again. They already did Dragonball. I can certainly see a trend.

I also think Bromance is a new trend, especially the gross-out bromance. Sort of a mix of Superbad/40-year-old Virgin and I Love You, Man, with a romcom thrown in. You get the female audience for sure, and also the guys who are comfortable enough to see two men hug. I can see a JT and Turk (from Scrubs) bromance in the works.

As for special effect stuff, everything comes in cycle. I think disaster movies are coming back after a short decade of hibernation. They need to find a good one and not crap like The Core.

I don't think superhero movies are done yet. We still have Iron Man, Green Hornet, and now Deadpool coming out. But I definitely see fatigue.

Oh, and sci-fi/space stuff such as Star Trek is back -- or did they ever go away?

robeiae
05-08-2009, 01:43 AM
Fantasy classics. There are a ton of them out there, from Piers Anthony to Roger Zelazny, just waiting to be made.

Imagine CGI being used to make the Hell-ride to Amber...

History_Chick
05-08-2009, 05:33 AM
Graphic Novel movies (which will give me hope that mine makes it to the big screen)

Retro toy movies. If Transformers does well, and GI kicks butt, then He-Man might not be a dream but a reality. Then who know what else we could see. Although if both tank then that kills that whole 80s thing.

dgiharris
05-08-2009, 06:01 AM
The Starcraft movie will be made and instantly make so much money, people's brains will explode from how much money it makes.

And then shall begin the era of Video Game Movies Taken Seriously (As the last era has been Comic Book Movies Taken Seriously)

I think you are really onto something. Video games are now making more money than movies. Halo 3 and Grand Theft Auto 4 beat out most movie openings for their respective years.


I think they're gonna keep milking the remake of 1980s toy lines trend for a good while longer. When the live action My Little Ponies movie comes out, I shall declare that trend deceased.

God help us when that happens. I'll keep my cyanide capsules ready


They're going to make live action of anime (especially the ones from the 70s and 80s). Oh sure, Speed Racer sucked and bombed, but there are so many other worthy ones to be made. Robotech would be a great one, now that Star Trek is alive again. They already did Dragonball. I can certainly see a trend.
......Oh, and sci-fi/space stuff such as Star Trek is back -- or did they ever go away?

If Robotech the Movie came out, I'd have no choice but watch it over and over until the reels melted.


But the one problem with the above strategies and direction Hollywood is going, is that they don't plant many seeds for future harvesting.

Granted, enough of us grew up with comics, cartoons, video games, and or the original shows... so all these remakes are relatively new and fresh and leverage our childish ties.

But what happens when you have nothing to remake, that is, everything has been rehashed so many times that there was never an original?

Perhaps we have decade's worth of fodder to remake, but eventually, the well will run dry and remakes will lose their once novel appeal.

Mel...

maestrowork
05-08-2009, 06:25 AM
Video game movie: Max Payne bombed. Doom bombed. So unless they do something well and actually pay attention to the story and writing, I don't see video game movies are going anywhere. I think this remains an area where playing the game is always going to be far more entertaining than a movie.

katiemac
05-08-2009, 06:37 AM
Video game movie: Max Payne bombed. Doom bombed. So unless they do something well and actually pay attention to the story and writing, I don't see video game movies are going anywhere. I think this remains an area where playing the game is always going to be far more entertaining than a movie.

But Dragonball bombed, too. We'll see what happens when Tron comes out.

jodiodi
05-08-2009, 06:48 AM
Now if they start making movies based on toys from the sixties, I'll be there for the Suzy Homemaker movie featuring the oven, blender, the dishes, the beaters, and the mixes.

maestrowork
05-08-2009, 07:07 AM
Now if they start making movies based on toys from the sixties, I'll be there for the Suzy Homemaker movie featuring the oven, blender, the dishes, the beaters, and the mixes.

Toy Story: Back to the Future?

jodiodi
05-08-2009, 07:34 AM
That'd do it.

I also had some toy that basically consisted of a plastic ankle and foot strap attached to a cord with a ball on the end that you did some sort of skip move to swing the cord and ball around one ankle and skipped over it with the other foot when it came back around.

I can't remember what it's called, but I remember begging for that stupid little toy and when I finally got it, I wasn't coordinated enough to do it, got mad and threw it under the house.

Kitty Pryde
05-08-2009, 07:47 AM
That'd do it.

I also had some toy that basically consisted of a plastic ankle and foot strap attached to a cord with a ball on the end that you did some sort of skip move to swing the cord and ball around one ankle and skipped over it with the other foot when it came back around.

I can't remember what it's called, but I remember begging for that stupid little toy and when I finally got it, I wasn't coordinated enough to do it, got mad and threw it under the house.

SKIP-IT!

But the very best thing of all!
There's a...counter on this ball!
So try to beat your very best score!
See if you can jump a whole lot more!
Skip it! Skip it! Come on everybody skip it! (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Z5eNcFRit8M&feature=PlayList&p=254FFF6B803030FB&index=0&playnext=1#)

Yeah, worst movie idea ever.

Wavy_Blue
05-08-2009, 07:48 AM
I'm hoping this doesn't happen, but I can see paranormal romance riding a big wave in the next few years. With the success of Twilight and the "maturing" of Harry Potter I anticipate these type of movies will spike in number.

maestrowork
05-08-2009, 07:56 AM
I'm hoping this doesn't happen, but I can see paranormal romance riding a big wave in the next few years. With the success of Twilight and the "maturing" of Harry Potter I anticipate these type of movies will spike in number.

Don't forget the over-40 romance: Sex and the City, Mama Mia, Last Chance Harvey, Night in Rodanthe...

jodiodi
05-08-2009, 07:59 AM
SKIP-IT!

But the very best thing of all!
There's a...counter on this ball!
So try to beat your very best score!
See if you can jump a whole lot more!
Skip it! Skip it! Come on everybody skip it! (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Z5eNcFRit8M&feature=PlayList&p=254FFF6B803030FB&index=0&playnext=1#)

Yeah, worst movie idea ever.

So close!

Skip-it came out in the 80s, I think. The one I'm thinking of is from the 60s.

I think the Skip-a-Roo is the one: It's described like the one I had with the red ball on the end. I just can't find any examples of the Skip-a-Roo online.

Thank you for pointing me in the right direction!

maestrowork
05-08-2009, 06:52 PM
But Dragonball bombed, too. We'll see what happens when Tron comes out.

That's what I said... I think video game movies have a long way to go to become mainstream. But it's not like they're not still trying... but almost every one of them bombed so far.

Anime, on the other hand... I think the Transformers changes the game. I think Robotech would make a GREAT series, Battlestar Galactica style.

dgiharris
05-08-2009, 10:21 PM
I think the video game movies bombed because they tried to hard to make a Video Game Movie instead of making a Movie 'based' on a Video game.

Mel...

maestrowork
05-08-2009, 11:50 PM
The problem is video games is the typical "make up your own story" type of entertainment. That's why games like GTA is so popular. But how do you translate that to movies and still keep the "make up your own story" aspect of it? It's impossible to do. You can, of course, take the concept such as GTA and make it into a movie, but it would be just like another action movie.

MattW
05-09-2009, 07:13 AM
I know this is kind of out there, but what if the next big trend was original screenplays?

katiemac
05-09-2009, 07:52 AM
I know this is kind of out there, but what if the next big trend was original screenplays?

Sigh. If only.

Kind of telling when even all of Oscar-nominated pictures were adaptations of some kind, isn't it?

maestrowork
05-09-2009, 07:59 AM
Not really. WALL-E, Frozen River, In Bruges, Milk, Rachel Getting Married, The Visitor, The Wrestlers....

katiemac
05-09-2009, 08:04 AM
Not really. WALL-E, Frozen River, In Bruges, Milk, Rachel Getting Married, The Visitor, The Wrestlers....

"Best Picture" category only is what I was thinking, but then I did forget about Milk. Still, 1 out of 5 is kind of disappointing, when you consider all the "fringe" contenders as well (including The Dark Knight).

jodiodi
05-09-2009, 09:44 AM
The absolute worst thing they could do would be movies based on gambling games:

Roulette: Circle of Death
Craps: Roll the Dice
Pai Gow Poker: From China with Vengance
Slots: The Horror Begins

or more board games:

Candyland: A Tale of Terror
Pachisi: The Magic Returns
Chinese Checkers with Dragons
Trivial Pursuit through Hell

maestrowork
05-09-2009, 09:57 AM
"Best Picture" category only is what I was thinking, but then I did forget about Milk. Still, 1 out of 5 is kind of disappointing, when you consider all the "fringe" contenders as well (including The Dark Knight).

Yeah, but I think best picture always kind of favor adapted materials or literary pedigree anyway, at least in recent years. So I am not sure if it's judge of original screenplays. Certainly many great original stuff have come out in the last decade, some even went go to win best pictures: American Beauty, Gladiator, etc. But still, I do think the Academy tend to favor adapted stuff like Lord of the Rings, etc.

Zoombie
05-09-2009, 11:41 AM
Video game movie: Max Payne bombed. Doom bombed. So unless they do something well and actually pay attention to the story and writing, I don't see video game movies are going anywhere. I think this remains an area where playing the game is always going to be far more entertaining than a movie.

As I said...it needs to be, well, like Iron Man or Spider Man or The Dark Knight or the original Batman movies.

See, those movies actually took their source materials SERIOUSLY and treated them with RESPECT.

...Joel Schumacher? Who's that? Never heard of him! There were only two original Batman movies, damn it! Only two batman movies. Only two batman movies...only two batman movies...


...


Where was I?

Oh right!

Some video games that I feel are ripe for film translation:

X-Com: Enemy Unknown (A squad taken from the best members of the best armies in the world, equipped with the best of the world's technology, are tasked with fighting a deadly invasion of aliens! They take alien technology, use it against them, and eventually beat the aliens back to their base on Mars before blowing it up with a nuke.)

Knights of the Old Republic (A Star Wars prequel movie that is actually good? Astonishing! Seriously, this game has an astonishingly good plotline, with well done characters and taut writing...also it has a twist to almost rival the "I am your father" moment in The Empire Strikes Back)

Starcraft (One of the most beloved RTSes of all time also has one of the best plots in an RTS...of all time. I mean, they only wrote three books based off of it. And those three books were awesome...)

maestrowork
05-09-2009, 05:28 PM
The problem with these are that unless you're a gamer, and unless you have played these games, they are obscure. I personally have never heard of X-Com, etc. But everyone has heard of Batman and Superman. They have a legacy behind them.