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Dawno
06-11-2005, 11:00 AM
On my subscribed threads list there are 6 threads out of 15 in which I was the last person to post. Some of them haven't been posted on for over a month.

If there's a thread you want to fizzle out just let me know. ;)

Sher2
06-11-2005, 06:47 PM
On my subscribed threads list there are 6 threads out of 15 in which I was the last person to post. Some of them haven't been posted on for over a month.

If there's a thread you want to fizzle out just let me know. ;)
That guilt and responsibility for everything since 1957 thing notwithstanding, hey, it ain't you. No way! Some threads just fizzle out. Law of nature. Anyhoo, who cares? WE are going back OTR today. :banana:

NancyMehl
06-11-2005, 07:29 PM
That guilt and responsibility for everything since 1957 thing notwithstanding, hey, it ain't you. No way! Some threads just fizzle out. Law of nature. Anyhoo, who cares? WE are going back OTR today. :banana:

I disagree. It is totally your fault, Dawno..... :wag:

Nancy

Sher2
06-11-2005, 07:35 PM
I disagree. It is totally your fault, Dawno..... :wag:

Nancy
Well, it is, and she freely admits it -- but I was trying to make her feel better. :flag:

Dawno, you up yet? We're in the "emergency" OTR digs.

CaoPaux
06-11-2005, 07:36 PM
Dawno, it just means you make your points so precisely there's nothing left to say. ;)

robeiae
06-11-2005, 10:44 PM
My posts never kill threads!

:wag: Rob

ZaZ
06-11-2005, 11:11 PM
I own the patent to killing threads or making them blow up.
There's always a fine line.

Renee
06-11-2005, 11:23 PM
If there's a thread you want to fizzle out just let me know. ;)

Dawno, girl, you are too hilarious! Thanks for that offer I'll have to get back to you on it. Kidding, you could never fizzle out a thread!


:)

robeiae
06-11-2005, 11:28 PM
GRRRRRRR!! :Headbang: Rob :)

ZaZ
06-11-2005, 11:33 PM
I wanna kill it!

robeiae
06-11-2005, 11:36 PM
No, I'm gonna kill it!

"Back off Ming, Dale's with me!" :guns:

Rob :)

Renee
06-11-2005, 11:48 PM
It happens to me all the time!

ME too KTC! hehe..

robeiae
06-11-2005, 11:51 PM
This could be the Never-Ending Dawno Thread...

Rob :)

Renee
06-11-2005, 11:57 PM
Ya! Book 'em Dawno!

Dawno
06-12-2005, 12:15 AM
This could be the Never-Ending Dawno Thread...

Rob :)

Only 901 pages to go. I think I'm worth it :D

Renee
06-12-2005, 12:23 AM
I think I can..I think I can!

SRHowen
06-12-2005, 06:41 AM
that happens to me all the time---and not just here

Roger J Carlson
06-12-2005, 06:46 AM
Gad Zooks! I've got 31. Why won't anyone talk to me? <wimper>

Dawno
06-12-2005, 06:50 AM
Hi Roger!

Renee
06-12-2005, 07:34 AM
Just making sure this thread doesn't die, or fizzle (anyone else hear that and think Snoop Dog). Why for goodness sake - I just wouldn't be able to sleep at night.

Dawno
06-12-2005, 07:39 AM
That's so nice of you, Renee. I keep posting so robeiae won't win the bet :D

Renee
06-12-2005, 09:29 AM
Man, Dawno, I seem to be killing threads all over the place. LOL! Maybe I better get in on this bettin'. :)

Renee
06-12-2005, 09:29 AM
Oh and hi Roger. That's my brothers name.

Dawno
06-12-2005, 09:11 PM
I was thinking about what kills a thread. The topic has just fizzled out, it was a thread with a question that has been sufficiently answered so it needs no more comment, it was a topic about a current event and the news has moved on so there's no more interest, a troll moved in and the thread got locked or once the troll was banished the interest in the thread dies (and don't you just love to pronounce that 'banish -ed' with the accent on the ed, it sounds so classy that way), the last post was so boring and pedantic going on and on like this one that everyone wandered off for something more fun to do :D

Now that I've started this thread I've got one more to worry about killing! Ironic, huh?

robeiae
06-12-2005, 11:14 PM
Yet nothing seems to kill the 'House of Love'...

Rob :)

Dawno
06-12-2005, 11:25 PM
I posted once in there. I was ignored. Didn't kill the thread, either, so I'm guessing Ray has the *mojo*

Unique
06-13-2005, 03:27 AM
Oh, no, Dawno....you can't be last here. Are you sure you're the thread killer? I thought it was me.......

Dawno
06-13-2005, 03:53 AM
Oh, no, Dawno....you can't be last here. Are you sure you're the thread killer? I thought it was me.......

There is no one thread killer. Each of us has the potential to make the last post. I just noticed how many of my subscribed posts were languishing with me as the last to have posted. I could save myself some grief by unsubscribing :D

mdmkay
06-13-2005, 04:51 AM
Thank God I'm not the only one. I was wondering if I was offensive or something. I finally got so I go through my subscribed threads and start deleting the ones that have grown too cold.

Renee
06-13-2005, 09:05 AM
I posted once in there. I was ignored.

Hey you and me both..

robeiae
06-13-2005, 05:10 PM
Actually, I've never subscribed to any threads, I always figured it would be annoying. So I guess when I kill a thread, I never know; it just keeps going down the list 'til I can't see it no mo...*sniff*

Rob :)

Celeste
06-13-2005, 08:01 PM
On my subscribed threads list there are 6 threads out of 15 in which I was the last person to post. Some of them haven't been posted on for over a month.

If there's a thread you want to fizzle out just let me know.

Hey, Dawno!

Think of it as, it ain't over until Dawno says so! Lol...;)

Dawno
06-14-2005, 03:16 AM
Hey, Dawno!

Think of it as, it ain't over until Dawno says so! Lol...;)


Oooh, I like that. But, wait, I've the last post now. A bad place to be. Are there rules? Like if nobody else posts on this thread after this, I can't post again to keep this thread alive and thus have confirmed myself as a thread killer?? *sigh*

Fortunately, I'm accustomed to being the one to blame for everything since July of 1957.

Susie
06-14-2005, 06:24 AM
Saying hi to Dawno and all cause I don't want Dawno to think she/he(?) killed the thread. Hope I won't! lol.

Hugs, Susie:)

robeiae
06-14-2005, 06:45 AM
DIE, Thread, DIE!!

Rob :)

Sher2
06-14-2005, 07:30 AM
Oooh, I like that. But, wait, I've the last post now. A bad place to be. Are there rules? Like if nobody else posts on this thread after this, I can't post again to keep this thread alive and thus have confirmed myself as a thread killer?? *sigh*

Fortunately, I'm accustomed to being the one to blame for everything since July of 1957.
Dawno, I think that if you'll take that Reynolds Wrap off your head -- which rightfully belongs to me, by the way -- the thread just might live. And if it doesn't -- well, of course, it's your fault. This is SO cool having a patsy for everything that could possibly happen.;) :hi:

Dawno
06-14-2005, 09:04 AM
Saying hi to Dawno and all cause I don't want Dawno to think she/he(?) killed the thread. Hope I won't! lol.

Hugs, Susie:)

Dawno is a she and she thanks you for such a sweet post. And a cute AV too.

Dawno
06-14-2005, 09:05 AM
DIE, Thread, DIE!!

Rob :)


:wag:

Dawno
06-14-2005, 09:07 AM
Dawno, I think that if you'll take that Reynolds Wrap off your head -- which rightfully belongs to me, by the way -- the thread just might live. And if it doesn't -- well, of course, it's your fault. This is SO cool having a patsy for everything that could possibly happen.;) :hi:

Sheesh. I have to share my aurora and now I find out you own my Reynolds Wrap??

Life is so unfair. But mostly to robeiae who will not have the last word :wag:

robeiae
06-14-2005, 09:20 AM
can you see this?

Dawno
06-14-2005, 09:26 AM
can you see this?


yes

Sher2
06-14-2005, 04:37 PM
Sheesh. I have to share my aurora and now I find out you own my Reynolds Wrap??

Life is so unfair. But mostly to robeiae who will not have the last word :wag:
Thank you for returning my RW helmet. Now I can hear "them" again. :banana: So, how's that Alcoa Wrap working out for you?

Dawno
06-14-2005, 05:52 PM
Thank you for returning my RW helmet. Now I can hear "them" again. :banana: So, how's that Alcoa Wrap working out for you?

Just lovely. I especially like the little horns I've fashioned in the front. I can listen to classic rock or NPR depending on which way I'm facing.

Sher2
06-14-2005, 06:45 PM
Just lovely. I especially like the little horns I've fashioned in the front. I can listen to classic rock or NPR depending on which way I'm facing.
Hey, I wondered if you'd figure out that thing about the horns. Not only do they look good -- are we fashionistas or what? -- but they filter out transmissions from "them" when you're trying to listen to classic rock. I must say, I do prefer the Reynolds to the Alcoa. It's just shinier, you know? Reminds me of my wandering aurora.:roll:

WhisperingBard
06-14-2005, 06:53 PM
Sher, Dawno,
Are you two off your meds again? ;)

Geez, I can't leave you alone for a couple of days...

Sher2
06-14-2005, 07:02 PM
Sher, Dawno,
Are you two off your meds again? ;)

Geez, I can't leave you alone for a couple of days...
I don't know. Is that that bitter stuff "they" keep giving us that we've been spitting out? Got to go, something's coming in on my horns. :hi:

VOTE_BOT
06-14-2005, 07:06 PM
.

Dawno
06-14-2005, 07:31 PM
Sher, Dawno,
Are you two off your meds again? ;)

Geez, I can't leave you alone for a couple of days...

I've been stealing Sher's.

I was alone? I was having such intersting conversations with someone...

Sher, re Alcoa - It owns Reynolds...:snirk:

Sher2
06-14-2005, 07:51 PM
I've been stealing Sher's.

I was alone? I was having such intersting conversations with someone...

Sher, re Alcoa - It owns Reynolds...:snirk:
Oh, hell, them's fighting words! Reynolds can whup the tar out of Alcoa blindfolded.

Now the truth comes out about where my meds went. You haven't noticed any, ahem, side effects, have you? There was a reason why I wouldn't take that stuff. :ROFL: If they aren't already, "They'll" be talking to you more. :hat:

Dawno
06-14-2005, 08:44 PM
Oh, hell, them's fighting words! Reynolds can whup the tar out of Alcoa blindfolded.

Now the truth comes out about where my meds went. You haven't noticed any, ahem, side effects, have you? There was a reason why I wouldn't take that stuff. :ROFL: If they aren't already, "They'll" be talking to you more. :hat:

No, seriously, the Alcoa Company owns the Reynolds division (http://www.alcoa.com/alcoa_consumer_products/en/home.asp)....

Side effects? I thought the ringing in the ears and the hair loss was from the music my son plays at high decibels...

Sher2
06-14-2005, 09:15 PM
No, seriously, the Alcoa Company owns the Reynolds division (http://www.alcoa.com/alcoa_consumer_products/en/home.asp)....

Side effects? I thought the ringing in the ears and the hair loss was from the music my son plays at high decibels...
Hmmm. I wonder if They know that?

I wouldn't worry too much about the ringing and hair loss. Just watch out for scales and extra appendages.

Speaking of watching out, BOLO -- somebody told me The Home is looking for us.:roll:

BradyH1861
06-15-2005, 12:42 AM
I've killed the Pinnochio thread and the Wacko Jacko thread today. I am posting here to see if there really is something wrong with me.

Brady H.

BradyH1861
06-15-2005, 01:04 AM
I feel this thread will never die. To let it pass away would be an outrage of a diabolical and fiendish nature.

Brady H.

Dawno
06-15-2005, 02:04 AM
Hi to my new friends from chat! :)

Sher if an extra appendage will help me get more work done I'm all for it. A prehensile tail would be nice!

Celeste
06-15-2005, 02:41 AM
Posting so Dawno doesn't kill her own thread. ;)

BradyH1861
06-15-2005, 03:09 AM
Posting so that Celeste doesn't kill Dawno's thread....boy, this could go on forever!

B.

Sher2
06-15-2005, 03:12 AM
I've killed the Pinnochio thread and the Wacko Jacko thread today. I am posting here to see if there really is something wrong with me.

Brady H.
Nah, Pinocchio lives -- although the real Pinocchio could use a good killing. :box:

Celeste
06-15-2005, 03:13 AM
Posting so Brady doesn't kill Dawno's thread...

Sher2
06-15-2005, 03:15 AM
Hi to my new friends from chat! :)

Sher if an extra appendage will help me get more work done I'm all for it. A prehensile tail would be nice!
Prehensile tail?! Not a very attractive trait in a girl if you ask me. I like the number of appendages I have just fine, so I'll be keeping my foil hat on. And if you grow a tail, I swear I'll pretend I don't know you. :ROFL:

robeiae
06-15-2005, 05:28 AM
Posting because if I don't kill this thread....gee, Dawno, we need some terms for this bet, don't we.

Rob :)

Dawno
06-15-2005, 06:06 AM
Sher, I just think the prehensile tail would make chores so much easier...could dust and vacuum at the same time...

rob you made the bet, make the terms and I'll see if I wanna take you up on them.

posting so rob doesn't win :wag:

Liam Jackson
06-15-2005, 06:51 AM
*bump* Heh, heh, heh.

DTKelly
06-15-2005, 06:52 AM
I've killed so many threads at another board I frequent I've considered changing my nickname to DrDeath.

Sher2
06-15-2005, 07:01 AM
Sher, I just think the prehensile tail would make chores so much easier...could dust and vacuum at the same time...
:wag:
If you say so. :ROFL: At least the kids won't sell you to the circus; then they'd have to do the dusting and vacuuming.:roll:

BTW, there's desperate need for the Interpretator on the other side...

Dawno
06-15-2005, 07:45 AM
*bump* Heh, heh, heh.


LOL!! I can't tell if Liam wants to protect me from being the thread killer or if he's gettin' a cut of Rob's bet...

Headin' over to do some interpretating, Sher....just got back from having a drink in person with an online friend who was in town. You should join the AW chat sometime!

DTKelly
06-15-2005, 07:52 AM
*cough* Consider yourself saved. ;)

aboyd
06-15-2005, 11:00 AM
Prehensile tail?! Not a very attractive trait in a girl if you ask me.That little tiefling girl, Annah, got me incredibly worked up. Her tail was hot.

http://www.travel.ag.ru/planescape/npc/Image3.jpg http://www.rpgfan.com/pics/planescape-torment/gif-annah-stand.gif

Of course, it helped that Sheena Easton voiced the character.

-Tony

robeiae
06-15-2005, 05:31 PM
The bells!...The bells!...

BradyH1861
06-16-2005, 08:26 AM
I am now happy to report that I am the last post in six threads (seven if you count this one).

So who is the REAL thread killer?

Brady H.

MartyKay
06-16-2005, 12:29 PM
Not you :p

edit: WHAT! no emoticon for :p!!! Ahh.. its :tongue

DTKelly
06-16-2005, 05:15 PM
Not you :p



or you. :D

T42
06-17-2005, 01:24 AM
I just had a week from hell trying to get back on line. I finally got moved to the Hill Country and had all kinds of mess ups trying to get utilities and phone service. They connected our utilities to the wrong house and wouldn't change it until Monday because it wasn't discovered until Friday when we got here. Then I waited for the phone company to get the phone connected and they kept saying that it was and that it was my phone. They finally sent someone out this morning and the line had been cut by the water company when they were digging up a water line. They just left it because it was the weekend and thought this house was empty so it didn't matter. The price you pay to live in a small town.:) Thank God I am out of Houston though!
So, I come back and everything is shut down. What is going on? Well, you can come and talk about Pa at my place but I agree with Jenna, enough of the personality stuff already! This is about publishamerica and putting a stop to them, not who's doing who or why.
Anyway, y'all have a good one and I'll be back:popcorn:

NancyMehl
06-17-2005, 04:09 AM
For anyone who wants to continue the fight against PA, Mindsight has a topic called "WATCHLIST." You can post there about PA.

Mindsight is located at www.mindsightseries.com (http://www.mindsightseries.com/).

Nancy

robeiae
06-17-2005, 07:00 PM
I tawt I taw a putty tat!

Rob :)

aboyd
06-18-2005, 11:21 AM
Errrr.... tawt. You meant tawt. Right?

-Tony

robeiae
06-22-2005, 03:38 AM
Whew!! That was close, it almost passed into Purgatory!

Rob :)

Dawno
06-23-2005, 08:52 AM
:)

Hi rob! I don't think you're gonna win your bet today...

Celeste
06-23-2005, 10:22 AM
Can't let Dawno kill her own thread! :)

oswann
06-23-2005, 10:52 PM
Look down the threads at the moment. I'm killing the suckers of one by one. I'm sure I can finish this baby off as well. I dare you all to respond.













Ha. Thought so.


Os.

Unique
06-23-2005, 10:53 PM
Once more to the top, Ole'

oswann
06-23-2005, 10:55 PM
Didn't work.





Damn.
Os.

Unique
06-23-2005, 10:59 PM
So I see....

oswann
06-24-2005, 03:21 PM
Whereas I'm superbly witty and interesting to everyone yet I seem be able to kill off threads from fifty yards. Go figure.



Os.

robeiae
06-24-2005, 03:25 PM
:faint:

oswann
06-24-2005, 03:33 PM
Yeah, well, some days I peak early.



Os.

Dawno
06-25-2005, 06:20 AM
:idea: hmmm. I wonder if this thread can make it to 100 posts before expiring?

MacAllister
06-25-2005, 06:22 AM
probably. :D

robeiae
06-25-2005, 06:23 AM
Waddaya think you're doin?

In the the immortal words of Rocky Balboa: Go for it...

Rob :)

jdkiggins
06-25-2005, 09:06 AM
I'll help add a post to get to 100, as long as I don't kill the thread first. :)

Dawno
06-25-2005, 09:14 AM
I'll help add a post to get to 100, as long as I don't kill the thread first. :)

Nearly there.

BTW, Birol wants her zuchinni (sp?) recipes :D

MacAllister
06-25-2005, 09:18 AM
I like smallish zukes, split in half, brushed with olive oil and sprinkled with fresh parmesan and a little fresh ground pepper and grilled tender...

Dawno
06-25-2005, 09:30 AM
I like smallish zukes, split in half, brushed with olive oil and sprinkled with fresh parmesan and a little fresh ground pepper and grilled tender...

prefer raw spears with ranch dip myself...

Unique
06-25-2005, 02:06 PM
100 maddening posts on the wall,
100 maddening posts
Take one down, pass it around
100 maddening posts on the wall

robeiae
06-25-2005, 03:07 PM
Did you stay up all night, just to be the centurian?

Rob :)

Unique
06-25-2005, 06:37 PM
Nope. Just up early and seized the opportunity. I don't get many, so I'll take what I can get when I can get it.

Dawno
06-25-2005, 06:56 PM
100 maddening posts on the wall,
100 maddening posts
Take one down, pass it around
100 maddening posts on the wall

:Trophy:Congratulations Unique! As our 100th poster you win a beautiful picture post card from Ireland! If you would like to claim your prize just email me using the email address in my profile and between July 2nd and July 9th I will mail you your prize directly from Ireland, guaranteed.

The next prize will go to poster #200. (yes, I like to dream impossible dreams)

Celeste
06-25-2005, 07:38 PM
Nope! It's not gonna' happen, Dawno! You're not gonna' be last to post in this thread! :wag:

rhymegirl
06-25-2005, 07:44 PM
I've killed a few threads in my time, too.

MacAllister
06-25-2005, 07:47 PM
Ha! You guys think you're thread killers?!

Try being a super-mod. Nothing, but NOTHING kills a thread faster.

Buncha pikers. *mutter, mutter*

robeiae
06-25-2005, 08:12 PM
Do threats work?

If anyone else posts on this thread, I'm gonna start posting quotes from Oswald Spengler's The Decline of the West. I kid you not.

Rob :)

MacAllister
06-25-2005, 08:13 PM
promises, promises....

Dawno
06-25-2005, 08:16 PM
Do threats work?

If anyone else posts on this thread, I'm gonna start posting quotes from Oswald Spengler's The Decline of the West. I kid you not.

Rob :)

Ohh, how exciting! :popcorn:

robeiae
06-25-2005, 08:34 PM
The "Decline of the West" comprises nothing less than the problem of Civilization. We have before us one of the fundamental questions of all higher history. What is civilization, understood as the organic-logical sequel, fulfillment and finale of a culture?

MacAllister
06-25-2005, 08:44 PM
What is civilization, understood as the organic-logical sequel, fulfillment and finale of a culture? This is such an excellent question! I eagerly await the inevitable metamorphosis of this conversation as it becomes the hottest thread on the board!

robeiae
06-25-2005, 08:47 PM
I think the other "hot" threads on TIO provide the answer...

Rob :)

Dawno
06-25-2005, 08:49 PM
Only 90 posts to go, how many pages is that book rob? :D


edit: grumble grumble cross posting...make that 87

robeiae
06-25-2005, 08:53 PM
1036

Dawno
06-25-2005, 08:56 PM
I do have to say that I am disappointed that the book isn't about Cowboys and Outlaws...:Shrug:

robeiae
06-25-2005, 09:04 PM
"Mankind," however, has no aim, no idea, no plan, any more than the family of butterflies or orchids. "Mankind" is a zoological expression, or an empty word. But conjure away the phantom, break the magic circle, and at once there emerges an astonishing wealth of actual forms--the Living with all its immense fullness, depth and movement--hitherto veiled by a catchword, a dry-as-dust scheme, and a set of personal "ideals."

MacAllister
06-25-2005, 09:57 PM
When Rob is finished, I can do the Rise and Fall of the Third Reich!

This is gonna be so much FUN!

Dawno
06-25-2005, 09:59 PM
"Mankind," however, has no aim, no idea, no plan, any more than the family of butterflies or orchids. This is such a relief to hear. I plan to vote for the butterfly candidate next election, btw.


Mac, I was actually hoping for the 3000+ pages of The Baroque Trilogy by Stephenson...perhaps we should have a poll :ROFL:

robeiae
06-25-2005, 10:14 PM
Grrr...

Okay, I'm taking it up a notch: Ernst Junger

The supreme power through which the bourgeois sees security gauranteed is reason. The closer he finds himself to the center of reason, the more dark the shadows in which danger conceals itself disperse, and the ideal condition which is the task of progress to achieve consists of the world domination of reason through which the wellsprings of the dangerous are not merely to be minimized but ultimately to be dried up altogether. The dangerous reveals itself in the light of reason to be senseless and relinquishes its claim on reality. In this world all depends on the perception of the dangerous as the senseless; then in the same moment it is overcome, it appears in the mirror of reason as an error.

Rob :)

P.S. Watch out! I'm fully prepared to start quoting Helen Reddy lyrics, as well!

MacAllister
06-25-2005, 10:41 PM
"I am woman, hear me roar
In numbers too big to ignore
And I know too much to go back an' pretend
'cause I've heard it all before
And I've been down there on the floor
No one's ever gonna keep me down again..."

rhymegirl
06-25-2005, 10:47 PM
You and me against the world,
Sometimes it feels like
you and me against the world,
And for all the times I've cried,
I always felt that God was on our side....

Dawno
06-25-2005, 10:48 PM
Grrr...

Okay, I'm taking it up a notch: Ernst Junger

The supreme power through which the bourgeois sees security gauranteed is reason. The closer he finds himself to the center of reason, the more dark the shadows in which danger conceals itself disperse, and the ideal condition which is the task of progress to achieve consists of the world domination of reason through which the wellsprings of the dangerous are not merely to be minimized but ultimately to be dried up altogether. The dangerous reveals itself in the light of reason to be senseless and relinquishes its claim on reality. In this world all depends on the perception of the dangerous as the senseless; then in the same moment it is overcome, it appears in the mirror of reason as an error.

Rob :)

P.S. Watch out! I'm fully prepared to start quoting Helen Reddy lyrics, as well!

Is it coincidence that The Matrix is on TV behind me as I write?

And I'll see your Helen Reddy and raise you a John Tesh:



And I know just how much you're a part of me
I see you and I, together in life
So there's nothing I wouldn't do,
To make you my wife.
(Chorus)
Won't you give me forever to show
all of the love I have here for you.
And give me my reason for living
To love you, I love you, I do.
With this ring, I'm bound
And I'll promise I'll never let you down.
To family and friends and the Lord above.
I'll swear I'll be true to you,
And give you my love.
(Chorus)
Won't you give me forever to show
all of the love I have here for you.
And give me my reason for living
To love you, I love you, I do.

Unique
06-25-2005, 10:48 PM
One book at a time, Rob. You'll save me a trip to the library. Post On!

(and thanks, Dawno. I'll remind you on the 2nd by email. Yippee! My luck is changing! I won something!!!)

Not only am I easily amused, I'm also easily satisfied. Life is simple, when you're simple. : )

robeiae
06-26-2005, 02:32 AM
Okay, :scared: I'm getting a little scared here...you are all just a little to comfortable with this stuff. I'm actually almost at a loss what to do next...

But not quite!! Dun-dun-dah!!

Thrown into its "there," Da-sein is always factionally dependent on a definite "world"--its"world." At the same time those nearest factical products are guided by the lostness in their taking care of things. This lostness can be summoned by one's own Da-sein, the summons can be understood in the mode of resoluteness. But authentic disclosedness then modifies equiprimordially the discoveredness of "world" grounded in it and the disclosedness of being-with with others. The "world" at hand does not become different as far as "content," the circle of the others is not exchanged for a knew one, and yet the being toward things at hand which understands and takes care of things, and the concerned being-with with the others is now defined in terms of their ownmost potentiality-of-being-a-self.

Dawno
06-26-2005, 02:42 AM
I see your passage and raise you this:


Gradable antonymy can be understood as 'antonymy in degree' and represents a 'more/less relation'. Jackson describes them as 'endpoints of a continuum or gradient' (Jackson 1993: 99), that means you will find both antonyms of one pair on the opposing ends of a scale, whereby they do not represent definite, but relative values. These antonyms still can be intensified by certain adverbs such as very, extraordinarily or extremely. This type of antonymy can only be found in the adjective word class among the gradable adjectives and to some extent in the adverb word class, but only among those adverbs that are derived from gradable adjectives.(ref:Sense Relationships and Semantic Problems in Literary Translation,http://www.ie.lspace.org/books/analysis/anke-schroder.html)

robeiae
06-26-2005, 02:58 AM
Jackson describes them as 'endpoints of a continuum or gradient' (Jackson 1993: 99), that means you will find both antonyms of one pair on the opposing ends of a scale, whereby they do not represent definite, but relative values.

Bullcrap!! Untrue!!

The contradiction which the arbitrary will is, comes into appearence as a dialectic of impulses and inclinations; each of them is in the way of every other--the satisfactionof one is unavoidably subordinated or sacrificed to the satisfaction of another, and so on. An impulse is simply a uni-directional urge and thus has no measuring-rod in itself, and so this determination of its subordination or sacrifice is the contingent decision of the arbitrary will which, in deciding, may proceed either by using intelligence to calculate which impulse will give most satisfaction, or else in accordance with any other optional consideration.-Hegel

Understand?

Rob :)

P.S. the one before was Heidegger.

Unique
06-26-2005, 03:04 AM
These aren't on the Best Seller List, are they guys? Slog on!

Dawno
06-26-2005, 03:46 AM
I say :wag: to your Hegel!!


I know that I exist, and nevertheless I am uncertain whether there is any ‘body’ in the nature of things. Therefore I am not a body. This argument is weak, unless it can be shown that extension in itself fully establishes substance. For even if this is assumed, it is certainly obvious that thought cannot originate from that substance; but this is not yet shown. And so we know this at least, that thought is not a mode of extension, but we do not know whether it cannot be a mode of substance, of which extension itself is a mode. (But it seems not to be so, because two different modes must be resolved into something common) For evidently extension and extended matter itself are different in body.

Therefore this is the true method of proving the distinction between mind and body: because it is impossible for us to ever know with certainty whether body exists. However I call body everything that is like those things that we perceive. But that this is impossible is evident, because it is impossible for us to be able to be made certain about the existence of bodies (except through a priori reasoning, from understanding the nature of God), or it cannot ever be proved by philosophical reasoning that bodies are not appearance or substances.(Liebniz: Textes inédits tome 2 Gaston Grua (ed) p 511 - translation from http://www.leibniz-translations.com/translation24.php)

robeiae
06-26-2005, 04:12 AM
*sigh*

You are missing the point:

Nature is the existence of things, so far as it is determined according to universal laws. Should nature signify the existence of things in themselves, we could never cognize it either a priori or a posteriori. Not a priori, for how can we know what belongs to things in themselves, since this never can be done by the dissection of our concepts (in analytical judgements)? For I do not want to know what is contained in my concept of a thing (for that belongs to its logical being), but what in the actuality of the thing itself is determined in its existence outside the concept...A cognition of the nature of things in themselves a posteriori would be equally impossible. For if experience is to teach us laws to which the existence of things is subject, these laws, if they refer to things in themselves, would have to referto them of necessity even outside our experience. But experience teaches us what exists and how it exists, but never that it must necessarily exist so and not otherwise. Experience therefore can never teach us the nature of things in themselves. --Kant

Rob :)

Dawno
06-26-2005, 05:48 AM
I think this says it all about that:






Immanual Kant was a real puissant
Who was very rarely stable



Heidegger, Heidegger was a boozy beggar
Who could think you under the table



David Hume could out consume
Schopenhauer and Hegel



And Wittgenstein was a beery swine
Who was just as schloshed as Schlegel



There's nothing Nietzche couldn't teach ya
'Bout the raising of the wrist
Socrates, himself, was permanently pissed



John Stuart Mill, of his own free will
On half a pint of shandy was particularly ill



Plato they say, could stick it away
Half a crate of whiskey every day



Aristotle, Aristotle was a bugger for the bottle
Hobbes was fond of his dram



And Rene' Descartes was a drunken fart
“I drink, therefore I am"



Yes, Socrates, himself, is particularly missed
A lovely little thinker
But a bugger when he's pissed

by Eric Idle

SRHowen
06-26-2005, 06:11 AM
Whoa-this thread got deep---

robeiae
06-26-2005, 06:43 AM
Well, if you're gonna take that attitude:

Look, strange women lying on their backs in ponds handing over swords...that's no basis for a system of government. Supreme executive power derives from a mandate from the masses not from some farcical aquatic ceremony...You can't expect to wield supreme executive authority just because some watery tart threw a sword at you...I mean, if I went around saying I was an emperor because some moistened bint had lobbed a scimitar at me, people would put me away...Ah! Now we see the violence inherent in the system.--Dennis the peasant

Rob :)

Unique
06-26-2005, 06:48 AM
Finally! Something I recognize. Will someone help me get out from under this rock, please?

Dawno
06-26-2005, 06:53 AM
gonna try and get political on me, huh?




Assises of novel disseisin, and of Mortdancestor, shall not be taken but in the shires, and after this manner: If we be out of this Realm, our chief Justicer shall send our Justicers through every County once in the Year, which, with the Knights of the shires, shall take the said Assises in those counties; and those things that at the coming of our foresaid Justicers, being sent to take those Assises in the counties, cannot be determined, shall be ended by them in some other place in their circuit; and those things, which for difficulty of some articles cannot be determined by them, shall be referred to our Justicers of the Bench, and there shall be ended.

Assises of Darrein Presentment shall be alway taken before our Justices of the Bench, and there shall be determined.

A Freeman shall not be amerced for a small fault, but after the manner of the fault; and for a great fault after the greatness thereof, saving to him his contenement; and a Merchant likewise, saving to him his Merchandise; and any other's villain than ours shall be likewise amerced, saving his wainage, if he falls into our mercy. And none of the said amerciaments shall be assessed, but by the oath of honest and lawful men of the vicinage. Earls and Barons shall not be amerced but by their Peers, and after the manner of their offence. No man of the Church shall be amerced after the quantity of his spiritual Benefice, but after his Lay-tenement, and after the quantity of his offence.

Unique
06-26-2005, 07:00 AM
:faint:

robeiae
06-26-2005, 07:12 AM
You don't want to go here:

A Particular cause of the corruption of the people

Great successes, especially those to which the people contribute much, make them so arrogant that it is no longer possible to guide them. Jealous of the magistrates, they become jealous of the magistracy; enemies of those who govern, they soon become enemies of the constitution. In this way the victory at Salamis over the Persians corrupted the republic of Athens; in this way the defeat of the Athenians ruined the republic of Syracuse.

The republic of Marseilles never underwent these great shifts from lowliness to greatness; thus, it always governed itself with wisdom; thus it preserved its principles.--Montesquieu

Rob :)

Dawno
06-26-2005, 07:42 AM
Rolling out the Montesquieu? Ha!


Society in every state is a blessing, but government even in its best state is but a necessary evil; in its worst state an intolerable one; for when we suffer, or are exposed to the same miseries by a government, which we might expect in a country without government, our calamity is heightened by reflecting that we furnish the means by which we suffer. Government, like dress, is the badge of lost innocence; the palaces of kings are built on the ruins of the bowers of paradise. For were the impulses of conscience clear, uniform, and irresistibly obeyed, man would need no other lawgiver; but that not being the case, he finds it necessary to surrender up a part of his property to furnish means for the protection of the rest; and this he is induced to do by the same prudence which in every other case advises him out of two evils to choose the least. Wherefore, security being the true design and end of government, it unanswerably follows that whatever form thereof appears most likely to ensure it to us, with the least expence and greatest benefit, is preferable to all others. Thomas Paine, Common Sense

robeiae
06-26-2005, 08:17 PM
Harumph!

Then leave Complaints: Fools only strive
To make a Great an Honest Hive
T' enjoy the World's Conveniencies
Be fam'd in War, yet live in Ease,
Without great Vices, is vain
EUTOPIA seated in the Brain.
Fraud, Luxury, and Pride must live,
While we the Benefits receive:
Hunger's a dreadful Plague, no doubt,
Yet who digests or thrives without?
Do not we owe the Growth of Wine
To the dry shabby crroked Vine?
Which, while its Shoots neglected stood,
Chok'd other Plants, and ran to Wood;
But blest us withits noble Fruit,
As soon as it was ty'd and cut:
So Vice is beneficial found,
When it's by Justice lopt and bound;
Nay, where the People would be great,
As necessary to the State,
As Hunger is to make 'em eat.
Bare Virtue can't make Nations live,
In Splendor; they, that would revive
A GOlden Age, must be as free,
For Acorns, as for Honesty.

--Bernard Mandeville (from "The Grumbling Hive")

Rob :)

Dawno
06-26-2005, 09:51 PM
Essay on Man, Epistle 1 part 10



by Alexander Pope



Cease then, nor order imperfection name:
Our proper bliss depends on what we blame.
Know thy own point: This kind, this due degree
Of blindness, weakness, Heav'n bestows on thee.


Submit.--In this, or any other sphere,
Secure to be as blest as thou canst bear:
Safe in the hand of one disposing pow'r,
Or in the natal, or the mortal hour.


All nature is but art, unknown to thee;
All chance, direction, which thou canst not see;
All discord, harmony, not understood;
All partial evil, universal good:
And, spite of pride, in erring reason's spite,
One truth is clear, Whatever is, is right.

robeiae
06-26-2005, 09:59 PM
Hey, you're comin' around!!

Now for the dark side:

You do not know the unfathomable cowardice of humanity … servile in the face of force, pitiless in the face of weakness, implacable before blunders, indulgent before crimes … and patient to the point of martyrdom before all the violence of bold despotism.--Niccoló Machiavelli

Rob :)

Dawno
06-27-2005, 04:40 AM
I believe Niccolo is in good company here:


Paradise Lost, Ch. 1, Book 1
John Milton

The mind is its own place, and in itself
Can make a Heaven of Hell, a Hell of Heaven.
What matter where, if I be still the same,
And what I should be, all but less than he
Whom thunder hath made greater? Here at least
We shall be free; th' Almighty hath not built
Here for his envy, will not drive us hence:
Here we may reign secure; and, in my choice,
To reign is worth ambition, though in Hell:
Better to reign in Hell than serve in Heaven.

robeiae
06-27-2005, 05:43 AM
To sum up:

The Roman People had a saying (Most Honoured Lord) which came from the mouth of Marcus Cato, the Censor, and expressed the prejudice against Kings which they had conceived from the memory of the Tarquins and the principles of their commonwealth; the saying was that Kings should be classed as predatory animals. But what sort of animal was the Roman People? By the agency of citizens who took the names Africanus, Asiaticus, Macedonicus, Achaicus and so on from the nations they had robbed, that people plundered nearly all the world. So the words of Pontius Telesinus are no less wise than Cato's. As he reviewed the ranks of his army in the battle against Sulla at the Colline Gate, he cried that Rome itself must be demolished and destroyed, remarking that there would never be an end to Wolves preying upon the liberty of Italy, unless the forest in which they took refuge was cut down. There are two maxims which are surely both true: Man is a God to Man, and Man is a Wolf to Man. The former is true of the relations of citizens with each other, the latter of relations between commonwealths. In justice and charity, the virtues of peace, citizens show some likenessto God. But between commonwealths, the wickedness of bad men compels the good too to have recourse, for their own protection, to the virtues of war, which are violence and fraud, i.e. to the predatory nature of beasts.--Thomas Hobbes, from "On the Citizen"

Rob :)

Dawno
06-27-2005, 06:30 AM
But what of this?


THE passage from the state of nature to the civil state produces a very remarkable change in man, by substituting justice for instinct in his conduct, and giving his actions the morality they had formerly lacked. Then only, when the voice of duty takes the place of physical impulses and right of appetite, does man, who so far had considered only himself, find that he is forced to act on different principles, and to consult his reason before listening to his inclinations. Although, in this state, he deprives himself of some advantages which he got from nature, he gains in return others so great, his faculties are so stimulated and developed, his ideas so extended, his feelings so ennobled, and his whole soul so uplifted, that, did not the abuses of this new condition often degrade him below that which he left, he would be bound to bless continually the happy moment which took him from it for ever, and, instead of a stupid and unimaginative animal, made him an intelligent being and a man. Jean Jacques Rousseau The Social Contract or Principles of Political Right Ch. 8. The Civil State

robeiae
06-27-2005, 07:10 AM
To do is to be
--Socrates

To be is to do
--Descartes

Do-be-do-be-do!
--Scooby

Rob :)

Dawno
06-27-2005, 07:14 AM
To do is to be
--Socrates

To be is to do
--Descartes

Do-be-do-be-do!
--Scooby

Rob :)

Ah ha - caught you!! The last quote should be attributed to Frank Sinatra! :p
:ROFL:

robeiae
06-27-2005, 07:18 AM
Ah ha - caught you!! The last quote should be attributed to Frank Sinatra!
No, Sinatra said do-be-do-be-do-BE! Scooby said do-be-do-be-DO!

Rob :)

Dawno
06-27-2005, 07:25 AM
No, Sinatra said do-be-do-be-do-BE! Scooby said do-be-do-be-DO!

Rob :)

Do a google search thusly: "To do is to be -- Socrates " and look at the responses!

:p

robeiae
06-27-2005, 07:38 AM
Who ya gonna believe?

See, this is the problem with philosophy...all those sites have it Socrates-Plato-Sinatra. Wrong! It's Socrates and/or Plato (they always agreed, mostly because Plato is the only source we have for Socrates), then Descartes, then Scooby OR Sinatra, depending on the be's (two for Scooby, three for Sinatra; you can add another do on Sinatra, but ya gotta have three be's).

If you doubt me...well, you'll see!!

Rob :)

Dawno
06-27-2005, 07:48 AM
Why does one have to have 3 be's for Sinatra? In the seminal work: "Strangers In The Night" it is firmly established as "do be do be do" that's 2 be's and 3 do's. Of course there's the historical precedence to think of as well since Sinatra clearly came before Scooby. And before Sinatra was Crosby. Thus, Frank is to Bing as Plato is to Socrates so perhaps it should go Socrates, Descartes, Crosby...

robeiae
06-27-2005, 03:32 PM
How 'bout we dump Frank and Scoob (sounds like a B&J flavor) and replace 'em with Rod Serling: do-do do-do, do-do do-do

Be is overrated, don't ya think (nuts to you Martin Heidegger)?

Rob :)

Dawno
06-27-2005, 05:17 PM
Yes, brie is overrated. I prefer a nice camembert. And a nice bowl of cashews.

robeiae
06-28-2005, 06:57 AM
Why is the nastiest looking cheese (and the smelliest) always the most expensive? I'll stick with my pasteurized, processed cheese food. Whenit comes to nuts, I like peanuts with the shells still on 'em. I eat the whole thing with just a dab of mustard on the shell...yum!! (goes great with black & tans)

Rob :)

Dawno
06-28-2005, 07:55 AM
Please tell me you don't buy the individually wrapped slices...
I suppose the peanut shells are a good source of fiber.

I have to go finish writing my annual performance review now so I leave you with this plea: "Angels and ministers of grace defend us!" Hamlet, Act I scene IV.

Celeste
06-28-2005, 10:15 AM
Gotcha'! You thought you were going to sneak that post in there, did ya'! It's not gonna' happen, Dawno!


Posting so Dawno doesn't kill her own thread...:)

robeiae
06-28-2005, 04:42 PM
Please tell me you don't buy the individually wrapped slices...
I suppose the peanut shells are a good source of fiber.

I have to go finish writing my annual performance review now so I leave you with this plea: "Angels and ministers of grace defend us!" Hamlet, Act I scene IV.
Actually, I don't buy the cheese food; Kraft Deluxe is real cheese and ten times better than the cheese food, but it does come individuallly wrapped!

Let me say this: "On a personal note, I'm placing a bounty on the head of Tim McKracken; he's the coach and chief punk of that Syracuse team..." Player-coach Reg Dunlop, Slapshot.

Rob :)

Dawno
06-28-2005, 06:02 PM
I prefer the Deli Deluxe myself.

"Please, Captain, not in front of the Klingons" Mr. Spock, Star Trek V: The Final Frontier.

Unique
06-28-2005, 06:13 PM
"Of all the jobs I've ever had, I like being retired the best. It just doesn't pay very well." Myself. On a daily basis. Act II

Nicholas S.H.J.M Woodhouse
06-28-2005, 06:14 PM
It truly is amazing how much cheese there is in the world. No matter how much you eat, it just keeps on growing and growing.

robeiae
06-28-2005, 06:18 PM
I prefer the Deli Deluxe myself.
That's what I meant...you can get it stacked without wrappers (like Anna Nicole Smith), or stacked with wrappers (like a young Loni Anderson).

Rob :)

Nicholas S.H.J.M Woodhouse
06-29-2005, 01:08 AM
George Michael?

Nicholas S.H.J.M Woodhouse
06-29-2005, 03:34 PM
Was it? Was it really?

robeiae
06-29-2005, 11:51 PM
Okay, now I'm confused...

:confused:

Rob :)

robeiae
06-30-2005, 01:05 AM
Not really...I was just bumpity bumping the thread up to the top so it wouldn't die. Ted Danson hardly says anything...and well, quite frankly George Michael wouldn't be that brilliant! (Secretly hoping Rob is getting even more con-fus-ed.)
Yes, but Nique's answer for everything seems to be George Michael...is there a fetish thread?

Rob :)

(If I'm confused, I'm trying desperately not to show it...ever read Nine Princes in Amber?)

Dawno
06-30-2005, 06:23 AM
Yes, but Nique's answer for everything seems to be George Michael...is there a fetish thread?

Rob :)

(If I'm confused, I'm trying desperately not to show it...ever read Nine Princes in Amber?)

Goodness, those are amongst my favorite books; I re-read them annually. I wanted to name my children after the characters. I only had 2 and my husband (now ex) didn't like Corwin for his firstborn son. (My great grandmother was a Corwin so I pitched it as a family name...still didn't work)

Have you read the prequels? Do you like Dune? Have you read those prequels if so. I have more questions but I'll stop here.

Nicholas S.H.J.M Woodhouse
06-30-2005, 02:49 PM
Yes, but Nique's answer for everything seems to be George Michael...is there a fetish thread?

Not quite everything.

:banana:

Dawno
06-30-2005, 05:28 PM
Dawno! Stop trying to be last! (-;


"Do or do not, there is no try" -- Yoda

robeiae
06-30-2005, 05:30 PM
Do be do be...oh, sorry.

Rob :)

Dawno
06-30-2005, 05:39 PM
Do be do be...oh, sorry.

Rob :)

"May you live to be 100 and may the last voice you hear be mine." -- Frank Sinatra (found at Brainy Quote (http://www.brainyquote.com/))

Edit: Friends of Thread Killer (and her handsome sidekick robeiae), I leave to go on vacation in Ireland tomorrow. I may or may not be able to post while I'm there depending on factors such as internet connection availability, fatigue and one's state of inebriation at the end of the day. (had to look *that* word up)

I hope that you all have a great time while I'm gone. rob, the stage is yours...don't let the thread killer thread die!!

Unique
07-01-2005, 04:26 AM
Dawno can't be last. She just can't.

robeiae
07-01-2005, 05:48 AM
(and her handsome sidekick robeiae)
Sidekick! Sidekick!! Why I oughta...

Am I not Emporer of Wyoming?
Am I not lord of pre-fascist ideology?
Am I not master of my domain? (trust me, I am: I haven't even posted in the wet dream thread)

Sidekick...hrumph!!

Rob :)

Dawno
07-01-2005, 06:09 AM
Sidekick! Sidekick!! Why I oughta...

Am I not Emporer of Wyoming?
Am I not lord of pre-fascist ideology?
Am I not master of my domain? (trust me, I am: I haven't even posted in the wet dream thread)

Sidekick...hrumph!!

Rob :)

Who started this thread? Start your own and get a sidekick there (heck, I'll even volunteer)

O'Dawno

Unique
07-01-2005, 06:19 AM
Yes, Rob - of course you are.


Have a good time, Dawno! Don't forget my postcard! Good luck finding cold beer.:hi:

robeiae
07-01-2005, 08:04 PM
Alright, that's it! I'm closin' this thread! No more posts, period. And I mean it...

Rob :mad:

DTKelly
07-01-2005, 08:24 PM
Post

robeiae
07-01-2005, 08:56 PM
:Headbang:

Unique
07-01-2005, 09:10 PM
....while Dawno's gone?

At least she can't kill her own thread.....





****oh, yeah - you never finished reading me that book, Rob****

robeiae
07-01-2005, 09:57 PM
Where were we? Oh, yes:

The transition from culture to civilization was accomplished fro the Classical world in the 4th, for the Western in the19th Century. From these periods onward the great intellectual decisions take place, not as in the days of theOrpheus-movement or the Reformation in the "whole world" where no hamlet is too small to be unimportant, but in htree or four world-cities that have absorbed into themselves the whole continent of History, while the old wide landscape of the culture, become merely provincial, serves only to feed the cities withwhat remains of its higher mankind.

Rob :)

robeiae
07-05-2005, 05:36 AM
Dawno will never forgive me if I lose this thread while she's out of town!!

Rob :)

Nicholas S.H.J.M Woodhouse
07-05-2005, 05:54 AM
I say, did you say the fourth century for the classical world?

robeiae
07-05-2005, 05:55 AM
I say, did you say the fourth century for the classical world?
I didn't say it, Spengler did.

Rob :)

Nicholas S.H.J.M Woodhouse
07-05-2005, 06:10 AM
ah

robeiae
07-07-2005, 02:49 AM
The world-city means cosmopolitanism in place of "home"...To the world-city belongs not a folk but a mob. Its uncomprehending hostility to all the traditions representative of the culture (nobility, church, privileges, dynasties, convention in art and limits of knowledge in science), the keen and cold intelligence that confounds the wisdom of the peasant, the new-fashioned naturalism that in relation to all matters of sex and society goes back far to quite primitive instincts and conditions, the reappearance of the panem et circenses in the form of wage-disputes and sports stadia--all these things betoken the definite closing down of the Culture and the opening of a quite new phase of human existence--anti-provincial, late, futureless, but quite inevitable.

Rob :)

Unique
07-07-2005, 03:01 AM
- - that's quite the run-on sentence, eh? - -

MacAllister
07-07-2005, 04:00 AM
Unique--that's cuz in the OLDEN days, when Rob was a wee pup, they'd just invented punctuation. No one was very used to it, yet.

robeiae
07-07-2005, 05:21 AM
I, myself (i.e. Rob), am, in fact, quite "enamored" of punctuation; that is to say, I try to use it, e.g. punctuation, whenever it is plausable and/or possible to do so, as in: Hello, might I inquire as to your health? (note the comma and the question mark)

Rob :)

MacAllister
07-07-2005, 09:22 AM
you missed em-dashes, en-dashes, and ellipses.

*sigh*

I'd thought so highly of you, too.

robeiae
07-07-2005, 10:41 PM
Let me say--as had been said many times--'E-A-T-M...'

Unique
07-08-2005, 03:34 AM
Hey, Rob...

How come there's such a thing as a dialogue and a diatribe, and a monologue,

but no monotribe?

robeiae
07-08-2005, 08:48 PM
Actually, I think a monotribe would be a bout of self-recrimination; you know, spending twenty minutes or so calling yourself names and listing all your faults. Maybe it would be therapeutic? We should all engage in a weekly monotribe, to keep us from getting too vain. Hey! That could be a whole new self-help technique...it screams for a book:

The Daily Monotribe: An Ancient Technique for Healing the Soul

I can see myself on Dr. Phil now...

Rob :)

MacAllister
07-08-2005, 08:53 PM
Let me say--as had been said many times--'E-A-T-M...' Oh. In that case, you also missed the period in your closing parenthetical independent clause...

robeiae
07-08-2005, 10:10 PM
Oh. In that case, you also missed the period in your closing parenthetical independent clause...
And my participles are dangling...(but that's a personal problem)

Rob :)

maestrowork
07-08-2005, 10:20 PM
I, myself (i.e. Rob), am, in fact, quite "enamored" of punctuation; that is to say, I try to use it, e.g. puncuation, whenever it is plausable and/or possible to do so, as in: Hello, might I inquire as to your health? (note the comma and the question mark)

Rob :)

U missed the almighty exclamation point!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

MacAllister
07-08-2005, 10:30 PM
Miss 'em? Heck, I'm always kinda glad when I don't see 'em...

Unique
07-10-2005, 02:12 AM
I miss Dawno.

robeiae
07-10-2005, 03:43 AM
Don't cry for me, Argentina!
I never wanted to be immortal!

(That all we asked for)
(Not much to ask for)

I kept my promise!
I kept...

Oh, sorry...I'm just in a musical kinda mood.

Rob :)

Dawno
07-10-2005, 04:28 AM
I miss Dawno.
Awww! I missed you all, too!

Glad to see the thread is still alive and kicking.

Rob, you misspelled punctuation upthread whilst agonizing over punctuation.

Mac, your contributions to the thread are priceless. :)

robeiae
07-10-2005, 04:29 AM
:Hail: :Hail: :Hail: :Hail: :Hail:

Rob :)

Dawno
07-10-2005, 04:34 AM
Pithy, rob, pithy....

It's so good to be home...well not quite home, we're still in Chicago but tomorrow we'll be back in California.

Unique
07-10-2005, 04:35 AM
Dawno!!

You're back!

So glad 2C you. How was the trip?

Rob's been baaaad.

(...but you'll see that for yourself...)

Dawno
07-10-2005, 04:51 AM
Ireland is such a wonderful place. I wish I could have stayed a month. I'd be destitute but happy :)

I posted your postcard from Dublin, hope you get it soon!

robeiae
07-10-2005, 04:54 AM
Rob's been baaaad. Not!!! I have been my usual, friendly, easy-going, helpful self, and anything that appears to have been out of charcter is just a simple misunderstanding, though it probably wasn't really something I did anyway 'cause I wasn't even online when it happened since I was busy doing laundry or pruning shrubbery (I don't remember which). So there.

Rob :)

Dawno
07-10-2005, 05:04 AM
rob, you've been a wonderful sidekick, thanks for all your hard work keeping this thread alive and useful.

It's also a good thing you didn't get mixed up and prune the laundry.

robeiae
07-10-2005, 06:29 AM
It's also a good thing you didn't get mixed up and prune the laundry.
That would mean I was doing the shrubbery...hmmm...

Rob :)

Dawno
07-10-2005, 06:15 PM
That would mean I was doing the shrubbery...hmmm...

Rob :)


Then, when you have found the shrubbery, you must place it here, beside this shrubbery, only slightly higher, so we get the two-level effect with a little path running down the middle. Then, when you have found the shrubbery, you must cut down the mightiest tree in the forest...Wiiiiiithh....A HERRING!


Monty Python, Holy Grail, Knights Who Say Ni skit

robeiae
07-10-2005, 09:49 PM
"I was looking for it..."

Ack, stop saying that word!

"...but I haven't found it..."

Ack, there it is again! Wait a minute, I said it...

Rob :)

Dawno
07-13-2005, 08:10 AM
uh, ok rob...I promise not to make any sudden moves as I slowly back away and edge out the door....


anyone here wanna hazard a guess as to who AW_amy is and why she's a bumpin' around in the B&BC thread?? It's like the Rapture of Dead Threads over there...

edit: this (http://absolutewrite.com/forums/showthread.php?t=15711) is why AW_amy is abumpin' :)!!

woohoo for Amy!

robeiae
07-13-2005, 11:50 PM
uh, ok rob...I promise not to make any sudden moves as I slowly back away and edge out the door....
Hey, you started up Monty Python again...not my fault if you can't remember the whole scene...

Rob :)

Unique
07-14-2005, 05:11 AM
I got your postcard. Thanks! So how close could you get to the 'Book'? Was it encased in glass so people wouldn't breathe on it? Tell, tell...

And tell me about that Blarney Stone....do ya really have to hang upside down to kiss it?

Dawno
07-14-2005, 06:19 AM
I got your postcard. Thanks! So how close could you get to the 'Book'? Was it encased in glass so people wouldn't breathe on it? Tell, tell... yep. I stood right over it, it's in a display case but you can stand right at the case and look down so you're within inches of the Book. There were two sections(?) each open to different pages. Really beautiful to see.


And tell me about that Blarney Stone....do ya really have to hang upside down to kiss it? not exactly. There's a set of metal bars in the wall and a platform to lie down upon. You lie on your back and pull yourself headfirst to the wall tilting your head back and that's where you kiss it. I have a lovely photo of the underside of my chin taken at the scene. :)

All the menfolk jumped off the tour coach at the last part of the trip on our way to the airport at Shannon and dipped some of our trinkets (as well as the new claddagh fusion rings (see below) my SO and I got for each other) in the River Shannon. I keep trying to blog about the trip and one of these days I'll finish. I'll be sure to let you know the link if you want to read about it.
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v304/Ebil_Librarian/claddaghfusionring2.jpg

robeiae
07-14-2005, 07:10 PM
What was that old story about the Luck of the Irish??

Rob :)

Dawno
07-16-2005, 07:46 PM
What was that old story about the Luck of the Irish??

Rob :)

I'm guessing there are millions of old stories about the luck of the Irish. I wish some of it would rub off on me!

robeiae
07-16-2005, 11:48 PM
I'm guessing there are millions of old stories about the luck of the Irish. I wish some of it would rub off on me!
No you don't...the one I'm thinking of has to do with how amazingly unlucky the Irish are!

Rob :)

Dawno
07-16-2005, 11:51 PM
No you don't...the one I'm thinking of has to do with how amazingly unlucky the Irish are!

Rob :)
I could be the poster child.

robeiae
07-19-2005, 03:37 AM
Now let's get serious about Ireland: Which is your favorite beer?
1) Guinness
2) Harp
3) A little of each in the same glass

Rob :) (yes, those are the only choices because my discerning tastes have determined them to be the only ones that are worthy)

rhymegirl
07-19-2005, 03:43 AM
Hey Dawno, I told you in the chat room I'd come post on your thread!

To answer Rob's question about Irish beer, I'd say none of the above, cuz I don't like beer. Wine is good, beer tastes like...uh, I can't even describe it. Don't like the smell either.

robeiae
07-19-2005, 03:50 AM
Hey Dawno, I told you in the chat room I'd come post on your thread!

To answer Rob's question about Irish beer, I'd say none of the above, cuz I don't like beer. Wine is good, beer tastes like...uh, I can't even describe it. Don't like the smell either.
Your drinkin' the wrong kinds, IMHO. I like wine, too, but wouldn't drink some kinds on a bet, like Boone's Farm, Gallo, etc. (okay, depends on the bet)

Dawno
07-19-2005, 05:03 AM
Hey Dawno, I told you in the chat room I'd come post on your thread!

To answer Rob's question about Irish beer, I'd say none of the above, cuz I don't like beer. Wine is good, beer tastes like...uh, I can't even describe it. Don't like the smell either.

Thanks! glad to see you here - come back often. Poke fun at rob, it's our national pastime.


so speaking of rob: Guinness.

Sarita
07-19-2005, 05:16 AM
Now let's get serious about Ireland: Which is your favorite beer?
1) Guinness
2) Harp
3) A little of each in the same glass

I'll say Guinness and Bulmers, if we're strictly going Irish beers. Harp is awful. (i love to disagree with Rob...)

Dawno
07-19-2005, 05:24 AM
I'll say Guinness and Bulmers, if we're strictly going Irish beers. Harp is awful. (i love to disagree with Rob...)

Welcome! And come disagree with rob anytime. Hey, go back to old posts even and dispute them! :)

Sarita
07-19-2005, 05:27 AM
Has he been talking about the French at all? Might be some good material in there... :) Thanks for the welcome.

robeiae
07-19-2005, 05:39 AM
I'll say Guinness and Bulmers, if we're strictly going Irish beers. Harp is awful. (i love to disagree with Rob...)
We are not going strictly Irish beers, we are going strictly Guinness, Harp, and both. Furthermore, there is nothing to dispute in my old posts, Dawno! And I only talk about the French when they ask for it (which is pretty much all the time).

Now if you'll excuse, I'm going to put away the rest of a bottle of Bailey's and wallow in self-pity until I fall asleep.

Rob :cry:

Sarita
07-19-2005, 05:43 AM
Ooo, now Baileys and Guinness I can get behind. Yum. Drink it before it curdles.

Don't cry, Rob! You'll make me cry.

Dawno
07-19-2005, 08:33 AM
rob, dear, but dispute is what it's all about! Enjoy the dialectic, the sythesis and antithesis and all that Marxist stuff.

I read in a book about a drink called a Black and Tan...can't remember what went into it but now that I've gotten a bit adventuresome and tasted Guinness I may try that too. Gotta find me a bar owned by a real Irishman around here.

robeiae
07-19-2005, 05:37 PM
I read in a book about a drink called a Black and Tan...can't remember what went into it but now that I've gotten a bit adventuresome and tasted Guinness I may try that too. Gotta find me a bar owned by a real Irishman around here.

*cough*...Well, there are Black and Tans, and there are Half and Halfs: both with Guinnesss, one with Harp and one with Bass. But be forewarned, there is some confusion out there about which is which, like there is over dolphins and porpoises, and over F-15's and F-14's (one is a Tomcat, one is an Eagle).

Rob :)

Dawno
07-19-2005, 11:21 PM
*cough*...Well, there are Black and Tans, and there are Half and Halfs: both with Guinnesss, one with Harp and one with Bass. But be forewarned, there is some confusion out there about which is which, like there is over dolphins and porpoises, and over F-15's and F-14's (one is a Tomcat, one is an Eagle).

Rob :)

....robeiae and Johnny Depp
....Dawno and Angelina Jolie

robeiae
07-20-2005, 01:04 AM
....robeiae and Johnny Depp
....Dawno and Angelina Jolie
....Ray and William

Dawno
07-20-2005, 03:07 AM
....Ray and William


You've stumped me on that one...I was talking about people we were often confused with, like dolphins and porpoises are confused for each other...but maybe you got that and people confuse Ray for William...who are they...now I'm just confused...

Open Question to anyone reading this thread: have you ever been confused with someone else? someone famous?

robeiae
07-20-2005, 07:36 AM
Open Question to anyone reading this thread: have you ever been confused with someone else? someone famous?
I've been mistaken for Jeff Bridges since college. Seriously.

Rob :)

robeiae
07-20-2005, 07:48 AM
By the way:

rob, dear, but dispute is what it's all about! Enjoy the dialectic, the sythesis and antithesis and all that Marxist stuff.
Crap.

Rob :wag:

Dawno
07-20-2005, 08:02 AM
another cogent reply -- is that cite from Engles or Knies refutations?

robeiae
07-20-2005, 08:04 AM
Actually, I believe it's from Monty Python...

Rob :)

Dawno
07-20-2005, 09:31 AM
I have blogged about days one and two of my Ireland trip. Although day 2 is not quite finished I put it up anyway. (it's missing some links and hasn't been well proofed)

http://www.ohdawno.org is my site.

Susie
07-22-2005, 04:36 AM
Posting to keep this great thread going! Hi all.:)

Dawno
07-22-2005, 08:13 AM
Hi!

Rob's off so busy starting his own threads he's neglecting us *sigh*

Unique
07-22-2005, 03:08 PM
Hi!

Rob's off so busy starting his own threads he's neglecting us *sigh*

Isn't he a pistol? Shame on him anyway, for neglecting this thread; his participation is vital. (It's time of another book installment.) Tsk tsk.

MacAllister
07-23-2005, 07:35 AM
Heh--I'll take a turn:
In one unfortunate and crucial respect, Tillich's model of God remains pre-nineteenth century. Following the pre-nineteenth-century physical cosmologies, Tillich pictured God's mode of being as static, unchanging. However, biblical scholars began to realize in the late nineteenth century that such a view of God was utterly foriegn to the New Testament. Jesus' picture of God , as demonstrated by the theologian-missionary doctor Albert Schweitzer among others, was based on seeing Him as the ruler of the coming Kingdom of God, that is, on regarding His mode of being as the power of the future. The essential Christian message was in its eschatology, which is the study of the ultimate future. Some major late twentieth-century theologians have understood this, most importantly the German theologian Wolfhart Pannenberg: "Jesus proclaimed the rule of God as a reality belonging to the future. This is the coming Kingdom. . . .in a restricted but important sense, God does not yet exist. Since his rule and being are inseparable, God's being is still in the process of coming to be." <*Pannenberg 1969, p 56> We shall see in the later chapters of this book how physics makes the Tillich-as-modified-by-Pannenberg model of God precise.

Some scholars have argued that this view of God, that He/She is to be considered primarily a future being, was already present in the very beginning of ancient Judaism. When God spoke to Moses out of the burning bush, Moses asked Him for His Name. According to the King James translation of the Bible, God replied "I AM THAT I AM . . .Say unto the children of Israel that I AM hath sent me [Moses] unto you" (Exodus 3:14). However, in the original Hebrew God's reply was "Ehyeh Asher Ehyeh." In Hebrew, the word Ehyeh is the future tense of the word haya, which means "to be." That is, God's reply to Moses should be translated "I WILL BE WHAT I WILL BE. . . ." (Frank J. Tipler, The Physics of Immortality: Modern Cosmology, God and the Resurrection of the Dead (http://www.amazon.com/exec/obidos/tg/detail/-/0385467990/ref=pd_sxp_f/002-3468873-4857639?v=glance&s=books), Doubleday: NY 1994. p4)

watcher
07-23-2005, 10:46 AM
Hey Dawno

Some people are just good at having the last word.

Nicholas S.H.J.M Woodhouse
07-23-2005, 11:14 AM
I've been mistaken for Jeff Bridges since college

I am sorry

Unique
07-23-2005, 01:30 PM
Thanks for the interesting words, Mac. Tasty and easier to chew than what Rob's been feeding me. However, I'll take words anywhere I find them.

You have both fed me words that I would never have chosen by my own free will. So post on! Yummy.

robeiae
07-23-2005, 09:22 PM
Now look, I undertook posting Spengler as a means of killing this thread; clearly, that didn't work. If you really want more, I'll oblige. However, you'll have to wait a while. It's my turn to vacate. I'm leaving for vacation in another day; taking the family to Williamsburg for a week (Jamestown, Yorktown, et al) so I won't be getting kicked around by you guys for a time. Hopefully, Dawno won't succeed in killing this thing off while I'm gone.

Rob :)

robeiae
07-23-2005, 09:23 PM
I am sorry
Coulda been worse, coulda been mistaken for his bro.

Rob :)

Unique
07-23-2005, 09:25 PM
Not to worry, Rob. I'm here. Even if it gets to the bottom of the page - she won't be last.....BwahahahahaHave fun!:hi: Send me a postcard!


(since I can't go on vacations myself right now, I'll live vicariously through other people...)

[P.S. it isn't any cooler up here.]

Dawno
07-24-2005, 02:30 AM
Now look, I undertook posting Spengler as a means of killing this thread; clearly, that didn't work. If you really want more, I'll oblige. However, you'll have to wait a while. It's my turn to vacate. I'm leaving for vacation in another day; taking the family to Williamsburg for a week (Jamestown, Yorktown, et al) so I won't be getting kicked around by you guys for a time. Hopefully, Dawno won't succeed in killing this thing off while I'm gone.

Rob :)

Rob, I hope you have a wonderful vacation. All those historic places, someday I'm going to have to go visit them -- try not to cause to much damage, ok?

Watcher: this thread seems to be proving otherwise ;)

Unique: It's nice to know someone cares.

Mac:
"An individual searching for eternity cannot afford to ignore the discoveries of modern physics about the nature of time. In general, the deductions of Kant about the mind forming perceptual schemata (the a priori forms) have been shown to be remarkably prescient. Beyond Kant’s simple schemata, Einsteinian relativity radically altered the concept of time in the twentieth century. That development is often compared to the Copernican revolution on notions about the universe and man’s place in it. No longer can time be considered as an absolute stretching back into the past and forward into the future at any moment called “now.” Time is relative, a function of the state of the various objects existing in the universe. This must affect concepts of eschatology that are predicated on an “end” of time. But time does not end because it does not have a beginning, there are only different points on an infinite continuum representing the “nows” of all possible observers. The physicist Bryant Greene points out that it is better to imagine time as a continuous block of ice than as a flowing river (The Fabric of the Cosmos, 2004)." Dr. Richard Schain -- The Necessity of Eschatology

Unique
07-24-2005, 02:33 AM
Nice try, Dawno.

Unique
07-25-2005, 03:41 PM
Hey Dawno!

What are we going to talk about while Rob's away?

Should we talk about him?
Should we analyze events?
Or should we interpret theories?

Or D) all the above.:)

Dawno
07-25-2005, 06:55 PM
This thread is like the show "Seinfeld" it's about nothing and we talk about anything.
Feel free to start a topic! :)

Unique
07-26-2005, 04:58 AM
Ok.

Remember those TV commercials about: 'Talk to your kids about drugs', 'Have a plan in case of a fire', 'Talk to your kids about not smoking'. Remember those?

I saw one today about - 'Talk with your kids about your plan for a terrorist attack' I about died. I couldn't believe what I was seeing and hearing. Maybe I'm out of the loop; but I had never seen that before. (I think they should pay me to watch TV, so...)

What bothered me the most was the little kids in it saying things like, 'Where will I go?' 'How will I find you?'
I suppose some people will think, 'yeah - that's a good idea' - but man, what a clop in the chops that was for me.

Have you seen it yet?

Dawno
07-26-2005, 05:29 AM
Wow. Nope, haven't seen that one at all. I don't usually see many commercials. We TiVo the shows we want to watch and then watch them when it's convenient for us. We fast forward thru all the commericals. I *love* my TiVo. Seriously. Love it.

Unique
07-26-2005, 05:53 AM
Would you believe I don't know what TiVo is? I've heard of it - but that's all I can say. I've heard of it.



***Neilsen called me up in the 90's. The lady told me I was one of ~1% of Americans who didn't own a television. Nifty, huh?***

Dawno
07-26-2005, 07:04 AM
Would you believe I don't know what TiVo is? I've heard of it - but that's all I can say. I've heard of it. TiVo is a digital recording device that is 'always on' so even while you're watching something you can pause it and rewind or go slow motion. It uses a hard drive instead of tape. There's a subscription service that goes with it and keeps the programming guide up to date so you can set things up to record in advance, and it's much easier than setting the VCR. It's a lot more complicated than that as well, but that's the basics.
***Neilsen called me up in the 90's. The lady told me I was one of ~1% of Americans who didn't own a television. Nifty, huh?*** Wow. I don't watch as much as I used to but I still like to have the option.

MacAllister
07-26-2005, 08:07 AM
whoops! Almost missed that, Dawno. :) Sorry--have had a couple of fairly brutal RL days that cut into my board time.


Beyond Kant’s simple schemata, Einsteinian relativity radically altered the concept of time in the twentieth century. That development is often compared to the Copernican revolution on notions about the universe and man’s place in it. No longer can time be considered as an absolute stretching back into the past and forward into the future at any moment called “now.” Time is relative, a function of the state of the various objects existing in the universe. This must affect concepts of eschatology that are predicated on an “end” of time. But time does not end because it does not have a beginning, there are only different points on an infinite continuum representing the “nows” of all possible observers.

w00t! What does that do to a discussion of God, then--if we think of God as a being not _quite_ in the dimension of "now" but rather as holding a point in existence always just outside human perception and frames of reference?

Unique
07-27-2005, 09:09 PM
w00t! What does that do to a discussion of God, then--if we think of God as a being not _quite_ in the dimension of "now" but rather as holding a point in existence always just outside human perception and frames of reference?

Well, Mac - what happens if God exists in this dimension and others simultaneously? Does that change the discussion, too? Alpha & Omega takes in a lot of territory.

Dawno
07-28-2005, 03:07 AM
I have been pondering and pondering Mac's post and now I've got Unique's to ponder as well. There are some really interesting discussions going on about the nature of the infinite (philosophically and mathematically), the Big Bang and how that supports belief in a Creator, etc. One of these days I might just have something to say about it.

My basic belief is that God is infinite and eternal. That would suggest that time cannot be a boundary or condition of God's existance so God would be 'outside' of time to our point of view, existing in the eternal 'now'. Dimensions, in the sense of space/time dimensions, are also irrelevant in that case.

I'm not sure I can agree with Schain about no beginning or end to time but I don't have the credentials or even the citations to back up my position so it's also a 'belief' that the construct 'time' is finite with a beginning and an end -- created that way so our universe could exist.

Brain hurts now.

MacAllister
07-29-2005, 06:29 AM
time cannot be a boundary or condition of God's existance so God would be 'outside' of time to our point of view, existing in the eternal 'now'. Dimensions, in the sense of space/time dimensions, are also irrelevant in that case. Ah--very nice!

At least until we try to describe or identify an "eternal now"...

poetinahat
07-29-2005, 07:20 AM
On my subscribed threads list there are 6 threads out of 15 in which I was the last person to post. Some of them haven't been posted on for over a month.

If there's a thread you want to fizzle out just let me know. ;)

Off topic -- my ratio is now 14 out of 30 (this post will make it 15/31). Feeling quite undead....

Dawno
07-29-2005, 07:32 PM
Off topic -- my ratio is now 14 out of 30 (this post will make it 15/31). Feeling quite undead....

Not off topic at all! You're the first person to actually post 'on topic' in a while. The rest of this has been attempts to 'kill' this thread but they keep drifting into conversations :)

Welcome to the thread. Hope your ratio improves.

Dawno
07-29-2005, 07:33 PM
Ah--very nice!

At least until we try to describe or identify an "eternal now"...

You did have to pull on that one and unravel the sweater, huh? :)