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TsukiRyoko
02-21-2009, 08:38 AM
Can anyone give me their opinions on both the Golden Dawn and the book, The Golden Dawn's Complete System of Magic?

Carole
02-23-2009, 05:01 PM
Read it! :D Gimme a little bit, and I'll get back to you on it. :)

OnyxDrake
02-24-2009, 12:06 AM
I'd take a look at Aleister Crowley's contribution to the Golden Dawn. Essentially you're looking at an old boy's club who were prone to politicking and in-fighting. If you're interested in what they based their systems on, I'd look into Enochian magick, Kabbalah (read the Sephir Yetzirah –sp?) and some of Crowley's material.

TsukiRyoko
02-24-2009, 01:20 AM
Read it! :D Gimme a little bit, and I'll get back to you on it. :)
I did read through it, but it doesn't give much background. It does have some pretty intense practices in it (stuff I've never even heard of before!), but it doesn't explain much background ot anything.

But... it is a pretty nifty book.

TsukiRyoko
02-24-2009, 01:21 AM
I'd take a look at Aleister Crowley's contribution to the Golden Dawn. Essentially you're looking at an old boy's club who were prone to politicking and in-fighting. If you're interested in what they based their systems on, I'd look into Enochian magick, Kabbalah (read the Sephir Yetzirah –sp?) and some of Crowley's material.
They did mention him quite a bit in the book, and it has quite a few contributions from him (I'm now reading the Body of Light technique).

Thanks :)

OnyxDrake
02-24-2009, 08:16 AM
I'd also go back and read up about Eliphas Levi, whose teachings formed much of the basis of the GD work.

rugcat
02-24-2009, 08:26 AM
There have been many books written about Golden Dawn and Waite -- you might get a better idea from the various histories of it than from slogging through mountains of original source material.

From a writer's perspective, you might want to take a look at the very influential Arthur Machen (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Arthur_Machen), who was friends with Waite. Machen's themes and writing were definitely influenced by Waite's ideas.

Carole
02-25-2009, 12:09 AM
I did read through it, but it doesn't give much background. It does have some pretty intense practices in it (stuff I've never even heard of before!), but it doesn't explain much background ot anything.

But... it is a pretty nifty book.

I haven't read a lot, but my hubby and our friend Angel have. Angel has been studying and practicing Golden Dawn theory for as long as I've known him, which is about ten years or more. He is an extremely disciplined person when it comes to his spirituality, and I do remember him spending weeks without contact to us because he was initiating himself in some way or another. It's all pretty heavy.

Anyway, I got some good info for you from Angel. I asked him to recommend some things for you, and this is what he said:

Send her these links:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hermetic_Order_of_the_Golden_Dawn


http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Stella_Matutina


That will give her a basic idea of its history. For books, I would recommend:

http://www.amazon.com/Golden-Dawn-Teachings-Ceremonies-Llewellyns/dp/0875426638
(http://www.amazon.com/Golden-Dawn-Teachings-Ceremonies-Llewellyns/dp/0875426638)

http://www.amazon.com/Magick-Book-Liber-Aba-Bk-4/dp/0877289190

"The Ritual Magic Manual: A Complete Course in Practical Magic" is a great reference book but rather expensive.

I'd probably trust Angel with my life any day of the week, so I'm pretty confident that he wouldn't steer you wrong with these suggestions. I found a pdf excerpt of The Ritual Magic Manual: A Complete Course in Practical Magic here: http://www.golden-dawn.com/eu/UserFiles/en/file/pdf/magicalevocation.pdf
(http://www.golden-dawn.com/eu/UserFiles/en/file/pdf/magicalevocation.pdf)

Happy reading! :)

reenkam
02-25-2009, 01:20 AM
Can anyone give me their opinions on both the Golden Dawn and the book, The Golden Dawn's Complete System of Magic?

I'm not completely sure what book this is, but I have read Israel Regardie's The Golden Dawn and I really liked it. It had a lot of information and is pretty clear, though it helps to have other books about Crowley, Enochian Magic(k), and Kabbalah on hand at the same time.

here's a link: http://www.amazon.com/Golden-Dawn-Teachings-Ceremonies-Llewellyns/dp/0875426638/ref=sr_1_1?ie=UTF8&s=books&qid=1235510232&sr=1-1

Does anyone know if these are the same book?

Robin
02-25-2009, 02:31 AM
www.sacred-magick.com (http://www.sacred-magick.com) has lots of Golden Dawn related articles and books. To download the larger works you have to buy a credit-based subscription, but many of the smaller articles are free downloads.

http://www.sacred-magick.com/Main.html?http://www.sacred-magick.com/PDF.html

Carole
02-28-2009, 08:07 PM
I'm not completely sure what book this is, but I have read Israel Regardie's The Golden Dawn and I really liked it. It had a lot of information and is pretty clear, though it helps to have other books about Crowley, Enochian Magic(k), and Kabbalah on hand at the same time.

here's a link: http://www.amazon.com/Golden-Dawn-Teachings-Ceremonies-Llewellyns/dp/0875426638/ref=sr_1_1?ie=UTF8&s=books&qid=1235510232&sr=1-1

Does anyone know if these are the same book?

It seems to me that the Llewellyn series is similar, but it's not the original text. It looks like it has been condensed for easy digestion. :D I found a first edition set published in Chicago by Aries Press 1937-40, and they are a multiple volume set in hardcover. Lots bigger than the Llewellyn book.




Here is another interesting article (http://tribes.tribe.net/ceremonialmagick/thread/da505ec0-4126-49ef-acb5-0533ad5d8e28) about Israel Regardie.