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RunawayScribe
01-30-2009, 10:26 AM
I've never taken it. I know what it is, thanks to life experience, and I know how to take a dose thanks to the good old worldwide web. What I need to know is what color/consistency it is, what it tastes like, what it feels like while it's working, etc.. Any details from an ipecac-taking experience would be helpful and very much appreciated. I will judge no one who posts. It is, after all, a poison-purging agent that can be abused just like anything else. :)

Thanks :)
Runaway

IceCreamEmpress
01-30-2009, 12:28 PM
It is dark brown and a little bit sticky, and it tastes horrible--bitter and sour and just plain weird.

At least, that was what it was like in 1967, which was the last time I had to take it.

Rarri
01-30-2009, 02:35 PM
Never taken it personally, so perhaps this wont be what you're looking for, but i struggled with eating er, 'issues' (just don't feel like saying it) and amongst everyone i knew and spoke to, even ipecac was something of a no-go (or perhaps this is a UK thing) because it could kill with the first use.

Keyan
01-30-2009, 03:47 PM
I didn't realize it was risky - I recall a poison control center recommending it for a two-year-old kid who'd swallowed iron tablets. This was in the late 1980s.

Perks
01-30-2009, 04:08 PM
Oh god. Sadly, I do have an ipecac story that's mostly a product of my own idiocy. Let's just say that I came to a crossroads one day and decided that I'd feel worse if I allowed the second dose of cold medicine I'd taken (not realizing how similar the ingredients were to what I'd already tried) to melt to efficacy in my stomach.

I tried the finger down the throat. Didn't work.

I remembered the Ipecac in the first aid kit. Silly me, I thought I'd cough up the pill and be done with it. Six hours later, thirteen vomiting incidents into my ordeal, I decided to call an expert to find out just exactly what I'd done to myself.

"Oh no, tell me you didn't..." Not a great thing to hear from the operator at the poison control center.

Apparently, Ipecac causes you to vomit, not by irritating your stomach lining, but by fiddling with your central nervous system, depressing something that keeps the peristalsis rippling down, not up.

The first thing I felt was as if I'd been given a lobotomy. Ipecac doesn't make you nauseated. It just drapes a leaden stupid over your thought processes. Nothing happens so much as just losing your will to live. Then, there's very little warning before the contents of your stomach is in your mouth - just a vague unease deep below your stupor. And it doesn't stop for hours.

Then you'll have an Ipecac hangover for a day or so and once your head clears you'll vow never to do that again unless your life is truly in danger.

Rarri
01-30-2009, 05:12 PM
Here's one link: http://www.associatedcontent.com/article/560217/ipecac_equals_instant_death_with_eating.html?cat=7 1

But a quick Google of the dangers of ipecac brings up some frightening results, but then, my perspective is from eating disorders.

RunawayScribe
01-30-2009, 06:30 PM
Phew - that's really unsettling, I have to say. I need my MC to take it (only once), though, so this is very helpful. Thanks.

About how many hours would you still be sick after taking it??

Perks
01-30-2009, 06:32 PM
I felt crappy for about twelve hours, if I recall correctly, maybe slightly longer. And kind of grim all the next day. It's rough stuff. I had no idea.

You'd have to have some kind of hardcore devotion to your eating disorder if you worked Ipecac into your routine.

Perks
01-30-2009, 06:36 PM
I have to laugh because I never imagined my Ipecac story would ever be of any use besides embarrassment.

RunawayScribe
01-30-2009, 08:30 PM
^Like, you were vomiting for all of those 12 hours, or you just felt gross and horrible, but threw up for less time?

:D It is a bit ironic. I appreciate you sharing, though!

Perks
01-30-2009, 08:41 PM
I threw up at tapering intervals. The shortest was probably a few minutes apart and then they lengthened out to once an hour and then just faded into feeling like shit for a while. I found I couldn't sleep or get distracted by anything. Brain was simply too dull to do anything but sit there and doze and suffer.

Kitty Pryde
01-30-2009, 09:00 PM
If your story takes place in present day, I believe they don't sell ipecac any more.

IceCreamEmpress
01-30-2009, 10:04 PM
If your story takes place in present day, I believe they don't sell ipecac any more.

Not so. Although the large national pharmacy chains in the US have stopped stocking it, there are still states in the US where it is a) recommended by the state poison control center, and b) required to be kept in the first-aid kits of schools and daycares.

Stew21
01-30-2009, 10:06 PM
They stopped selling it?
I bought it just a few years ago; I bought it because I had two busy toddlers and ipecac is sort of a must-have with curious toddlers (though we all hope the cabinet door locks prevent any accidental poison ingestion).

Kitty Pryde
01-30-2009, 10:10 PM
Ah! My bad. I remember seeing it in the news a few years ago. The FDA did vote to take away it's OTC drug status, and if the FDA ever gets enough funding to do anything ever, and officially makes that change, it won't be available at all (cause it doesn't have prescription drug status). (from here) (http://pediatrics.aappublications.org/cgi/content/full/112/5/1180)

Perks
01-30-2009, 10:14 PM
I know they no longer recommend it for home first aid kits.

Rarri
01-30-2009, 10:15 PM
Hmn, we don't have anything like ipecac over the counter here (apart from a few medicines which contain ipecac but are for other purposes) for helping those who've been poisoned. I don't know why that's only just occured to me, haha.

Kitty Pryde
01-30-2009, 10:16 PM
oh! and no discussion of ipecac would be complete without this charming clip (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aRn5-LQCg2s) from Family Guy: WARNING IT'S REALLY GROSS!

semilargeintestine
01-30-2009, 10:21 PM
Apparently they make it in tablets (http://www.luckyvitamin.com/item/itemKey/64294) now. I never heard of that.

Kitty Pryde
01-30-2009, 10:25 PM
Apparently they make it in tablets (http://www.luckyvitamin.com/item/itemKey/64294) now. I never heard of that.

HAHAHAHA! Sorry, semilarge, you've been had. That's not ipecac at all. That's a homeopathic preparation. The designation 30X means that it is a solution of ipecac that's been diluted to 10^-30 times. In other words, it's .0000000000000000000000000000001 % ipecac! Some folks might call it water.

Rarri
01-30-2009, 10:26 PM
How ironic, they come from a site called 'lucky vitamin' :eek:

Just seen previous post, thank goodness, haha.

semilargeintestine
01-30-2009, 10:30 PM
HAHAHAHA! Sorry, semilarge, you've been had. That's not ipecac at all. That's a homeopathic preparation. The designation 30X means that it is a solution of ipecac that's been diluted to 10^-30 times. In other words, it's .0000000000000000000000000000001 % ipecac! Some folks might call it water.

I haven't been anything. I never said I bought it, I just found it online. I think you need to calm down a little. :Hug2:

Kitty Pryde
01-30-2009, 10:34 PM
Sorry, didn't mean to be attacking you, but rather trying to criticize companies like lucky vitamin who purposely mislead consumers like that.

semilargeintestine
01-30-2009, 10:38 PM
Gotcha. It drives me nuts too. My mom falls for that kind of crap all the time.

IceCreamEmpress
01-30-2009, 10:41 PM
ipecac is sort of a must-have with curious toddlers

The current state of medical wisdom is that it is not advisable to administer ipecac in the case of accidental poisoning. See the American Academy of Pediatrics' FAQ (http://www.aap.org/advocacy/archives/novpoisonqanda.htm)on the topic.

ColoradoGuy
01-30-2009, 10:49 PM
I know they no longer recommend it for home first aid kits.
Correct. It is unpredictable in its actions (as you found), and it can cause worse troubles than you experienced.

Stew21
01-30-2009, 11:03 PM
The current state of medical wisdom is that it is not advisable to administer ipecac in the case of accidental poisoning. See the American Academy of Pediatrics' FAQ (http://www.aap.org/advocacy/archives/novpoisonqanda.htm)on the topic.


thankfully supervision and magnetic door locks prevented us from ever having to worry about using it. I would have called the doctor before administering anyway. Scary stuff.

Perks
01-30-2009, 11:35 PM
Correct. It is unpredictable in its actions (as you found), and it can cause worse troubles than you experienced.I know you think less of me now, CG. I'm sorry.

GeorgeK
01-31-2009, 12:48 AM
I know you think less of me now, CG. I'm sorry.

I'm sure he doesn't. It's events like that that eventually teach us to do/ not do/ take/ not take whatever.

By the way, your event was beautifully written. I could almost taste the vomit.

Perks
01-31-2009, 12:54 AM
By the way, your event was beautifully written. I could almost taste the vomit.Wow. That's the best review I've ever gotten. Lol!

CG has many reasons to be in high disdain of me. But he's a kind man. So, we shall see.

IceCreamEmpress
01-31-2009, 01:14 AM
thankfully supervision and magnetic door locks prevented us from ever having to worry about using it.

Yay!

I don't know how parents deal with all of this changing medical wisdom--first something is the best thing ever, and then it's suddenly the thing you should never use/do/eat. My hat is off to you all.

semilargeintestine
01-31-2009, 01:21 AM
It's like that with everything. Drink red wine. Don't drink red wine. Drink coffee. Don't drink coffee. Shit, they used to think cigarettes were good for you. I say just become a hermit and live in a cave. Of course, make sure you wipe your ass with the right leaves.

ColoradoGuy
01-31-2009, 01:21 AM
. . . CG has many reasons to be in high disdain of me.
I do? At least you didn't smoke it or shoot it. Those would have been worse.

Perks
01-31-2009, 01:33 AM
I do? At least you didn't smoke it or shoot it. Those would have been worse.Do people do that?

ColoradoGuy
01-31-2009, 01:47 AM
Do people do that?
Stranger things have been done. With lightbulbs, for example.

Perks
01-31-2009, 01:51 AM
Stranger things have been done. With lightbulbs, for example.
I think you shan't be content until you make me cry. Not very Quaker-ly of you.

RunawayScribe
02-01-2009, 12:14 PM
This has been very interesting as well as hugely helpful. Thank you all very much for your help and input. :)

Runaway

Keyan
02-01-2009, 12:57 PM
Stranger things have been done. With lightbulbs, for example.

Or gerbils?
Oh, you weren't talking of *that* at all...

Sorry.