2nd US Civil War: 2010?

Oops read that wrong. Dammit.

Or it'll we'll form our own countries or it'll end like the last one. Keep your grubby hands off.

whistlelock said:

Russian Social Scientist, as reported by the WSJ, has predicted the disintigration of the US into 6 splinter nations that would fall under the dominance of current foreign powers.



And, here's the map:

Personally, I find his break down to be very flawed, and shows a lack of understanding of US cultural boundaries.

I mean, Oklahoma joining with Texas? Seriously? Clearly he's never heard of the Red River Rivalry.

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If civil war and a complete collapse of the U.S. happened, I can buy into this map's breakdown. OK would join with TX, it'd join with the new country with Mexican influence.

The whole thing's a laugh riot. I think the problem lies with his view that the U.S. is somehow very similar to the U.S.S.R. That and he clearly knows next to nothing about economics.

Then there's the whole military angle. If the U.S. did break up, one carrier attack group is all most of these regions would need to bring their posited masters under their control. I mean seriously, give the Texans free reign and few ships and they won't stop 'til they hit Brazil.

Crap. I need to move. I'm too close to the border with those Euro-lover types.

What a crock of bull. Sounds like the Russians are spending more money on stupid 'studies' than we are.

I'm laughing at all of you who are "under the influence..."

Seriously though, can I trade you my Kentucky for either Ohio or New Mexico?


(ETA) Wait--now I know where I've seen this before--those "researchers" didn't even crack a spine: this is a Risk game board!

What a joke. Don't see it happening, or if it did it sure wouldn't end up with those divisions. KY and TN as part of the east coast? Yeah, right.

And rob... where's the link to that quote of mine?

If we had a civil war...and all states joined in....how would you know what side you were on and why? I mean what are we going to fight about? Say New Jersey starts saying they want to be European? Why fight them? Just build a wall around them and tell Brussels "it's your problem now."

Wishful thinking after imbibing too much vodka? Projecting his fear of more Russian (as in USSR) disintegration?

Tirjasdyn said:

If we had a civil war...and all states joined in....how would you know what side you were on and why? I mean what are we going to fight about?

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You take that back!

Pffffffffft. As if Kentucky and Tennessee would ally themselves with Maine and New Hampshire! Are you kidding me? Seriously?

*makes note to send Russian scientist a history of the Civil War*

Realistically, considering the manufacturing base and economic makeup of the state of Ohio, it would go with the Euro-lovers while Kentucky and Tennessee are more likely to run off with the Texas Republic. Under Mexican influence? yeeeeee-ah. Right.

I also think it would be more urban/rural than strictly by state.

Meerkat said:

You take that back!

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No! You!

Children. You're arguing about a Russian fantasy. Stop fighting and shake hands like good little Americans.

One word: nuts.

Fellow National Guard members: do not heed propaganda to the effect that the war is over, or that we have reached an alliance of some sort with those subhumans across the border.

Keep fighting!

Tirjasdyn said:

If we had a civil war...and all states joined in....how would you know what side you were on and why? I mean what are we going to fight about? Say New Jersey starts saying they want to be European? Why fight them? Just build a wall around them and tell Brussels "it's your problem now."

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I've advocated giving DC and most of the east coast back to the British for a long time.

mscelina said:

Children. You're arguing about a Russian fantasy. Stop fighting and shake hands like good little Americans.

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Obviously this is a misguided attempt to subvert the cause!

I hereby propose a prisoner exchange. We have three of your top operatives. But you have to take Martha Stewart off our hands as well.

Holy smokes--does this mean that now Chryslers are both crappy, AND "imported?!"

Meerkat said:

I hereby propose a prisoner exchange. We have three of your top operatives. But you have to take Martha Stewart off our hands as well.

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Not worth the risk.

I remember hearing that after WWI, someone in Russia suggested coming after the US, because we were so strong. The premier I guess at the time said, "no. Give them enough time, they'll destroy themselves." It's not impossible, just unlikely.

alleycat said:

One word: nuts.

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Save that line for when they have you surrounded--has a nice, familiar ring to it!

Captshady said:

I remember hearing that after WWI, someone in Russia suggested coming after the US, because we were so strong. The premier I guess at the time said, "no. Give them enough time, they'll destroy themselves." It's not impossible, just unlikely.

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When we hang the capitalists they will sell us the rope we use.
Joseph Stalin

robeiae said:

I mean seriously, give the Texans free reign and few ships and they won't stop 'til they hit Brazil.

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lol - and they'd probably try grabbing New Orleans, Mobile and Miami as they made they're way outta the gulf.