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Plot Device
12-17-2008, 08:43 AM
I want them all. Tell me every last conspiracy theory under the sun.

UFO's.
Kennedy assassinations.
Secret societies.
New World Order plots.
Urban legends that sometimes ring true.

The works!



.

William Haskins
12-17-2008, 08:49 AM
here's one: coincidence and inference exist and these things, co-mingled with the human imagination, create a psychological condition in which a person, not sufficiently stimulated and motivated by observable reality, chases one (or sometimes a variety) of far-fetched theories to escape the boredom and insignificance of life.

oh... and it's run by the jews.

Yeshanu
12-17-2008, 09:40 AM
It's all the fault of lesbians with elf fetishes.

I should know. :D

smoothseas
12-17-2008, 10:18 AM
oh... and it's run by the jews.

Who control the mouth of the Med

Joe270
12-17-2008, 10:21 AM
This one goes back a ways:

There is a wide-spread rumor of an anti-union, pretty much slave labor factory which 'employed' a minority race, keeping them in isolation in a far-flung gulag in a frozen wasteland. None of them had any contact with the outside world, and were kept captive and busy all year in the factory.

The evil dictator kept track of them with a list of subversives. The evil dictator also kept animals captive, strong, special animals which he trained for his own dastardly plans.

But once that year, that evil dictator took the fruits of their labor and whipped the poor animals aloft, leaving the minority race alone. They took their chance, and bolted out into the frozen wastelands. . .

. . . where they all froze to death.

The end.

nevada
12-17-2008, 12:31 PM
I'm sure you've all seen this. I may have seen this posted here before. But for conspiracy theories this takes the cake.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_c6HsiixFS8

I really never truly believed that people could be this stupid. I really think this goes beyond lack of education.

Don
12-17-2008, 01:40 PM
I'm sure you've all seen this. I may have seen this posted here before. But for conspiracy theories this takes the cake.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_c6HsiixFS8

I really never truly believed that people could be this stupid. I really think this goes beyond lack of education.
Ding Ding Ding! We have a winner! Lock thread!

I'm speechless.

Don
12-17-2008, 01:46 PM
Okay, so don't lock the thread. My favorite whacko conspiracy theory is that we never made it to the moon, because I have personal experience that refutes it.

I remember standing behind our house and pointing a directional antenna at the moon so we could listen directly to the transmissions. My brother the electronics geek built it. I saw the signal fade as the moon moved, and saw it increase when I refocused the antenna on the moon.

Theory busted. If you're going to throw disclaimers about weather balloons or orbiting satellite relay antennas, please prove your physics.

Angelinity
12-17-2008, 03:06 PM
the problem with observable reality is that we see it based on expectations, which in turn are based on available facts and our interpretation of information available at the time.

seems to me that observable reality is not a constant. which is why i choose not to limit my understanding of reality to that which is readily observable and accepted.

Angelinity
12-17-2008, 03:24 PM
as for conspiracy theories, i will sit back and watch this time around :popcorn:

Vincent
12-17-2008, 04:03 PM
Chemtrails.

darkprincealain
12-17-2008, 10:52 PM
One of my favorite urban legends has more than a few conspiracy elements. It is also completely brain-missing, but here goes nothing:

http://www.snopes.com/horrors/ghosts/hotel.asp

I first heard about chemtrails from the same person who also told me about this little paranoid theory:

http://www.libertyforlife.com/jail-police/us_concentration_camps.htm

It is all nonsense of course, but great fodder for rounds and rounds of fiction.

James81
12-17-2008, 10:58 PM
The government has devised a way to keep it's citizens from getting out of control and into bad things. There've been studies done that show when people have nothing to do with their lives, they tend to get into trouble.

Therefore, they have the medical associations put out literature telling you that you need AT LEAST 8 hours of sleep a night (when you realistically could survive and thrive on 6 hours sleep).

And they force companies toward a 40 hour work week so that you must work 8 hours a day (and realistically be there 8.5 or 9 hours due to lunch breaks).

Thereby occupying over 2/3 of your time.

Yeshanu
12-17-2008, 11:20 PM
This one goes back a ways:

There is a wide-spread rumor of an anti-union, pretty much slave labor factory which 'employed' a minority race, keeping them in isolation in a far-flung gulag in a frozen wasteland. None of them had any contact with the outside world, and were kept captive and busy all year in the factory.

The evil dictator kept track of them with a list of subversives. The evil dictator also kept animals captive, strong, special animals which he trained for his own dastardly plans.

But once that year, that evil dictator took the fruits of their labor and whipped the poor animals aloft, leaving the minority race alone. They took their chance, and bolted out into the frozen wastelands. . .

. . . where they all froze to death.

The end.

But...

but...

I want my toys for Christmas. :cry:

Plot Device
12-18-2008, 12:12 AM
This one goes back a ways:

There is a wide-spread rumor of an anti-union, pretty much slave labor factory which 'employed' a minority race, keeping them in isolation in a far-flung gulag in a frozen wasteland. None of them had any contact with the outside world, and were kept captive and busy all year in the factory.

The evil dictator kept track of them with a list of subversives. The evil dictator also kept animals captive, strong, special animals which he trained for his own dastardly plans.

But once that year, that evil dictator took the fruits of their labor and whipped the poor animals aloft, leaving the minority race alone. They took their chance, and bolted out into the frozen wastelands. . .

. . . where they all froze to death.

The end.

Fairy tales only SOMETIMES qualify as conspiracy theories. I'll let this one slide. ;)

Thank you for your offering. :)

Plot Device
12-18-2008, 12:13 AM
I'm sure you've all seen this. I may have seen this posted here before. But for conspiracy theories this takes the cake.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_c6HsiixFS8

I really never truly believed that people could be this stupid. I really think this goes beyond lack of education.

Great find! :)

Plot Device
12-18-2008, 12:16 AM
Okay, so don't lock the thread. My favorite whacko conspiracy theory is that we never made it to the moon, because I have personal experience that refutes it.

I remember standing behind our house and pointing a directional antenna at the moon so we could listen directly to the transmissions. My brother the electronics geek built it. I saw the signal fade as the moon moved, and saw it increase when I refocused the antenna on the moon.

Theory busted. If you're going to throw disclaimers about weather balloons or orbiting satellite relay antennas, please prove your physics.


I actually knew a girl in college who believed this. And this was when I was in college in Florida, mind you -- within line-of-sight of Cape Canaveral! We saw easilly a dozen launches of the space shuttle in our tennure at that college. Yet she STILL insisted it was all a hoax.

Plot Device
12-18-2008, 12:17 AM
the problem with observable reality is that we see it based on expectations, which in turn are based on available facts and our interpretation of information available at the time.

seems to me that observable reality is not a constant. which is why i choose not to limit my understanding of reality to that which is readily observable and accepted.


Gee thanks-- now my head hurts. :D

Plot Device
12-18-2008, 12:18 AM
Chemtrails.


Can you elaborate? :Huh:

William Haskins
12-18-2008, 12:30 AM
http://www.nmsr.org/chemtrls.htm

Plot Device
12-18-2008, 12:33 AM
One of my favorite urban legends has more than a few conspiracy elements. It is also completely brain-missing, but here goes nothing:

http://www.snopes.com/horrors/ghosts/hotel.asp

I first heard about chemtrails from the same person who also told me about this little paranoid theory:

http://www.libertyforlife.com/jail-police/us_concentration_camps.htm

It is all nonsense of course, but great fodder for rounds and rounds of fiction.


Okay, the FIRST LINK you've provided is the plot for the movie "Vanishings." (Check!)

The SECOND LINK is yet another offering from what I like to call the "Ultimate Dagwood Sandwich" of conspiarcy theories: a spicey conglomeration of 9/11-was-an-inside-job, FEMA Camps, white railroad cars, FEMA coffins, Bilderberg, Satanic rituals, Masonic conspiracies, UFO conspiracies, JFK conspiracies, and a dozen others all rolled into one giant theory so huge you can barely wrap your mouth around it, let alone swallow it. (Check!)

Very good! :)

Plot Device
12-18-2008, 12:35 AM
It's all the fault of lesbians with elf fetishes.

I should know. :D


Elves? Where? ;)

Plot Device
12-18-2008, 12:37 AM
The government has devised a way to keep it's citizens from getting out of control and into bad things. There've been studies done that show when people have nothing to do with their lives, they tend to get into trouble.

Therefore, they have the medical associations put out literature telling you that you need AT LEAST 8 hours of sleep a night (when you realistically could survive and thrive on 6 hours sleep).

And they force companies toward a 40 hour work week so that you must work 8 hours a day (and realistically be there 8.5 or 9 hours due to lunch breaks).

Thereby occupying over 2/3 of your time.


Um ... this sounds like the government is conspiring to help us and to do right by us. This one's no fun!



j/k

Plot Device
12-18-2008, 12:38 AM
But...

but...

I want my toys for Christmas. :cry:


Consider that the Fortress of Solitude is in the same vicinity as that evil sweat shop, you'd THINK Kal-el would have that situation under control. Maybe he's getting a cut of the profits.

Don
12-18-2008, 12:39 AM
Generally, mentioning the Council on Foreign Relations (CFR (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Council_on_Foreign_Relations)) will earn you a tinfoil hat and 'Conspiracy Theorist' label in short order. It will probably do so here. However, a little research is in order.

The Council on Foreign Relations does exist, it does seek to 'guide' public opinion in foreign affairs, and a large number of politicians from both sides of the aisle and a large number of the largest corporations are members. All easily verified facts which help explain how little our foreign policies change from administration to administration.

A CFR study group is the source of the rumors for a 'North American Union' and the 'Amero' currency. The task force chairman, Robert Pastor, wrote (http://www.foreignaffairs.org/20040101faessay83112-p0/robert-a-pastor/north-america-s-second-decade.html) in Foreign Affairs,


"The U.S., Mexican, and Canadian governments remain zealous defenders of an outdated conception of sovereignty even though their citizens are ready for a new approach. Each nation's leadership has stressed differences rather than common interests. North America needs leaders who can articulate and pursue a broader vision... Countries are benefited when they changed these [national sovereignty] policies, and evidence suggests that North Americans are ready for a new relationship that renders this old definition of sovereignty obsolete."
If you prefer the U.S. remain a sovereign nation, the CFR is most probably not your friend, and concern over the organization's involvement in U.S. policymaking hardly seems unjustified. That's one tinfoil hat I'll wear with pride.

Plot Device
12-18-2008, 02:02 AM
I have done very little research on the CFR (that particular file folder in my ever-growing filing cabinet on conspiracy theory research is still very thin at the moment). But one thing I recall reading is that the very existence of the CFR was officially denied by ALL branches of the US government, and the press, for decades. Any time anyone asked about the CFR, they were told: "There is no such agency. You're mistaken." And this blanket denial was universally employed by the governmente, by talk radio, by newspaper editors, etc.

It was only in (I believe) the last 15 years that the US government has finally admitted that not only does the CFR actually exist, but it has been in existence since the 1920's.

Don
12-18-2008, 02:05 AM
I have done very little research on the CFR (that particular file folder in my ever-growing filing cabinet on conspiracy theory research is still very thin at the moment). But one thing I recall reading is that the very existence of the CFR was officially denied by ALL branches of the US government, and the press, for decades. Any time anyone asked about the CFR, they were told: "There is no such agency. You're mistaken." And this blanket denial was universally employed by the governmente, by talk radio, by newspaper editors, etc.

It was only in (I believe) the last 15 years that the US government has finally admitted that not only does the CFR actually exist, but it has been in existence since the 1920's.
You know if we keep this thread going, Rolling Thunder's gonna swoop in and put tinfoil hats on both our avatars, right? :D

I think you're right about the CFR being under the radar until recently, BTW. There's still quite a bit of secrecy involved, to the extent that some of the members even complain about it.

Plot Device
12-18-2008, 02:46 AM
Scully?????

In a tin foil hat????

Plot Device
09-20-2010, 07:18 PM
Anymore?? :)

MacAllister
09-20-2010, 08:23 PM
"The truth is out there..."

They don't make 'em like Mulder and Scully, these days.

If she was having trouble, the FBI chick from Fringe would just use the "contact us" form on a website, instead of consulting with the lone gunmen.

KyraDune
09-21-2010, 06:33 PM
The moon landing was faked, so the government could have a reason to build really big rockets.

Elvis is alive and pumping gas in Nebraska, he's in witness protection because he knows who really shot JFK.

Aliens are being held captive in Area 51, where terrible experimentation is being done upon them.

The Water Cooler is run by flying monkeys who report everything we say to the NSA.

kayleamay
09-21-2010, 08:40 PM
Two pages and no mention of reptillians? No underground bases in Denver? No secret wingding messages? No mind altering substances in the drinking water? No cattle abductions? No human abductions? No mention of the eye that sees all? No mention of The Georgia Guidestones? Bohemian Grove? Drones? Planet X? Little greys? Big greys? The Mayan calendar? I ching 2012? David Icke?

Come on, now. Don't make me have to stay up just to listen to Coast-to-Coast.


:popcorn:

darkprincealain
09-21-2010, 10:00 PM
Yeah, but the Ultimate Dagwood Sandwich of conspiracy theories has already been provided. ;)

All jokes aside, I really only floated the three I was most familiar with. (Though, to be fair, I can't wrap my brain around chemtrails. There doesn't appear to ever be details, or a motive, explained.) Where's someone to write about baboons and reptoids when you need them?

darkprincealain
09-27-2010, 09:22 PM
Okay, the FIRST LINK you've provided is the plot for the movie "Vanishings." (Check!)

And a subplot in one of the new TV shows this fall, I've discovered. :)

CACTUSWENDY
09-27-2010, 09:50 PM
Back a few years ago when playing on my computer late at night I got a charge out of having the radio on and listening to the Art Bell show. He had guests on that could make you want to look over your shoulder all the time. They had a conspiracy for just about anything you can think of. Fun times.

Mr Flibble
09-27-2010, 11:02 PM
Elvis is alive and pumping gas in Nebraska, he's in witness protection because he knows who really shot JFK.

.

Actually he's in a home with cancer of the penis. JFK is there too (who the FBI, or was it the CIA? turned him black, because of Marilyn. They also replaced part of his brain with sand) only nobody knows Elvis is Elvis cos he did a swap with an impersonator in the Seventies and it was the impersonator who died. And noneone belives it's JFK because he's black...Only now there's a mummy who's sucking souls outta people arses when they go for a crap, and only Elvis and JFK can stop it. [Bubba Ho Tep] :D

UFOs as depicted throughout history. Halos = space helmets. Animal gods are lizard aliens etc etc....See, look here (http://www.crystalinks.com/ufohistory.html) for starters if you don't believe me. (Actually I do find this fascinating....)