Parts of a handgun?

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If a handgun is broken into its component parts, how many would there be? If the number differs by make and model / caliber, a general number is close enough. 4? 5? More than 10?

I have a character who needs to take one apart like it's a trained reflex.
 

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Well, it will vary by type and manufacturer.

When someone takes a gun apart, either to clean it or clear a jam or do basic repairs, they don't take it completely apart. They break it down into it's basic components.

Is this military or police? An automatic? An automatic is the most common these days for both police and military; a few years ago the most common gun for a police officer in the US was a revolver.
 

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I mentally went through what it takes to disassemble my S&W 39 9mm in order to clean it thoroughly. I count about six or seven main parts. If I needed to do a more thorough cleaning, or fix something, I would need to disassemble it further.
 

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It's a situation where someone is being held hostage and the guy picked the wrong victim. The hostage reacts in a kind of pre-programmed reflex and disarms the guy and takes the gun apart to render it useless. I just didn't know how many parts would hit the floor.
 

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Two would be sufficient (take the slide, part #3 in the diagram, off). Of course if he could get the firing pin out as well, that would be a bonus :)

Incidently, this was done in a movie, I think it was Lethal Weapon 12 (or was it only 3?).
 
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It's a situation where someone is being held hostage and the guy picked the wrong victim. The hostage reacts in a kind of pre-programmed reflex and disarms the guy and takes the gun apart to render it useless. I just didn't know how many parts would hit the floor.
If it's an automatic, in that case, he's just need to take the round out of the chamber, if there is one loaded, and take out the clip. No bullets, no bang. If he wanted to make sure it couldn't be fired at all in the future, he could damage one of the main parts of the gun (the firing pin or barrel mostly likely).
 

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Of course you take the clip out first.
 

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Here's a video you might find interesting, Cyia. This is very similar to the way many automatics are field stripped.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=u6061maLUUo

Of course, this guy wasn't trying to do it quickly. And on some guns taking the slide lock lever pin out can be a bit of a bear; but for your story you can assume it was a piece of cake.
 

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Thanks for the help guys. I may have the hostage taker be an idiot and assemble the gun wrong after he cleaned it... then it falls apart in his hands. It'll be funnier that way and still use the parts hitting the floor.
 

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Thanks for the help guys. I may have the hostage taker be an idiot and assemble the gun wrong after he cleaned it... then it falls apart in his hands. It'll be funnier that way and still use the parts hitting the floor.

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If a handgun is broken into its component parts, how many would there be? If the number differs by make and model / caliber, a general number is close enough. 4? 5? More than 10?

I have a character who needs to take one apart like it's a trained reflex.

The major components of a semi-automatic pistol are:

Receiver
Slide assembly
Barrel
Magazine
 

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Thanks for the help guys. I may have the hostage taker be an idiot and assemble the gun wrong after he cleaned it... then it falls apart in his hands. It'll be funnier that way and still use the parts hitting the floor.

This is already pretty funny. You could have the idiot gunman know zip about guns and get advice about gun handling from the hostages.

However, if your object is to have a gun part clatter to the floor, then it's correct that a revolver isn't the best for parts dropping off.

Also, the slick and instant removal of the slide-release pin by Mel Gibson or Steven Seagal is pretty much movie FX hype.

Yet with idiocy a factor, here's a scenario to consider:

The gunman has a Model 1911 or similar knockoff. The pistol is just a threat, so he inserts an empty magazine ("clip" is a good misnomer for someone who doesn't know guns) just for dramatic show to intimidate the hostages.

However, when he racks back the slide to fake loading for the hostages, the slide locks back (as it should, because the magazine is unloaded). When he goes to thumb the slide-release to let the slide go forward to continue his bluff, he accidently thumbs the magazine-release button, and the empty magazine drops free and clatters to the floor.

I tried it , it works, and I'm still giggling while writing this.
 

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In movies they are constantly racking the slide (as an intimidation factor, perhaps?) yet you never see an unfired shell being ejected. Furthermore, when they fire the last round the slide doesn't lock back. That happens to let you know it's empty and to make loading the next round easier.

Something an idiot gunman might do? Maybe if he manually cocked the semi-auto with his thumb and left his thumb sitting on the hammer and then fires the weapon: broken thumb, dropped gun.
 
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Hammerklavier's suggestion to drop the entire pistol is even better for humor.

In a two-hand hold, any of the weak hand behind the sharp-edge slide when fired could draw blood and cause a novice to drop the gun.

In a one-hand hold, as said, the thumb or wrist behind the slide gets an owie. Another is a tendency for novice shooters to grip autoloaders improperly and pinch the web of skin between thumb and trigger when fired.

The latter can be exacerbated by ridiculous "thug" shooting positions seen in movies and on TV:

1. Holding the pistol sideways not only spoils aim and may cause operation malfunctions, but can cause other fun effects, not the least of which is getting an eyefull of hot ejected casing.

2. Holding the pistol high overhead and angled down at the victim in a threatening manner is good for causing a miss or the slide slicing part of the gunhand.
 
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Thanks guys. I hadn't even thought about getting stuck in the hammer - that works great! (I've never fired a semi - automatic, just a manual revolver so I didn't know what could happen there)

This guy is... well, he really wants to be scary he just can't quite figure out how to scare anyone other than himself.
 

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it's pretty easy to get a word or two wrong here and have the description fall apart because of the error. For ex, this discussion often mentions autos when we're really talking about semi-autos. And a revolver is not called a manual revolver. Revolvers are either single action or double action.

Someone who's armorer level can quickly dissemble a semi-auto pistol beyond basic component parts (more than a dozens and dozens of parts on a 1911, mid thirties on a Glock) and even the average handgun shooter will not get it back together without a lunch break. However, it's unkikely your intended goober can be so bad at reassembling a semi-auto that it falls to pieces in his hands.
 

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I think I figured out how to fix my whole problem. I'm changing the setting. Mr. Moron is going to pick out his hostage and end up unwittingly selecting (the world's greatest) magician. I'll just have him disappear the thing... hehehehe.
 

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Is this military or police? An automatic? An automatic is the most common these days for both police and military; a few years ago the most common gun for a police officer in the US was a revolver.

SEMI-automatic. Not automatic. An automatic gun is a machine gun. Very different.
 

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It's a situation where someone is being held hostage and the guy picked the wrong victim. The hostage reacts in a kind of pre-programmed reflex and disarms the guy and takes the gun apart to render it useless.

Why would he (or she) do that? Why not just hang onto the gun, in its useful form?
 

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Hammerklavier's suggestion to drop the entire pistol is even better for humor.

In a two-hand hold, any of the weak hand behind the sharp-edge slide when fired could draw blood and cause a novice to drop the gun.

There's a Sig Sauer model that's particularly good for that, the P232. It's why I didn't get that gun--afraid it might cut me, because if you don't hold it just right it will, and I didn't want to have to be thinking about how to hold it when I was in a situation dangerous enough to have my gun drawn.
http://www.sigsauer.com/Products/ShowCatalogProductDetails.aspx?categoryid=10&productid=69
 

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Third generation Smith & Wessons, plus many of the other autos based on the Browning design, can be field stripped easily by pulling back the slide until the notch on the slide aligns with a release pin/slide release--this can be done with one hand. All that's needed next is to pull slide release out and there will be nothing left to hold the slide onto the receiver.

There will also be nothing but pressure from the recoil spring holding the barrel to the inside of the slide: all three componants will fall apart with just a little push.
 

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Third generation Smith & Wessons, plus many of the other autos based on the Browning design, can be field stripped easily by pulling back the slide until the notch on the slide aligns with a release pin/slide release--this can be done with one hand. All that's needed next is to pull slide release out and there will be nothing left to hold the slide onto the receiver.

There will also be nothing but pressure from the recoil spring holding the barrel to the inside of the slide: all three componants will fall apart with just a little push.

All of what you say is true. By holding my Browning-designed 1911 against my body, I could rotate and remove the barrel bushing with one hand, letting the spring ease out so not to lose it or the spring housing.

Then I was able the work the slide back to begin removing the slide release/barrel link pin loose. Again, with one hand I needed lots of time and body english because my pistol is tight.

You never mentioned "quickly," so what you wrote is still true and doable. After half a dozen tries I'm getting faster. Dropped parts are few, but I guess I just don't have the same autoloader as the movie guys who can do it all in a flash.