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Keyboard Hound
09-24-2008, 03:02 AM
Would anyone know how easy it would be to puncture or cut a tire by running over a shovel like was used with a wood stove back in the 50's? The shovel is old and the sides on it worn sharp and the tire is worn slick of any tread.

Puma
09-24-2008, 04:02 AM
Possibly fairly easily. If there wasn't much tread left and the sidewalls were threadbare, it wouldn't take much to cut the rubber with a sharp shovel. Puncturing the tube might be another matter. My memory of those old stove shovels was that there wasn't much sideboard sticking up so there might not be enough metal to make it all the way to the tube. Tire pressure would probably be another factor. My opinion, but I'm not an expert, just an oldster. Puma

donroc
09-24-2008, 04:20 PM
Easy to do, and I remember patching the inner tubes with adhesive squares.

citymouse
09-24-2008, 04:50 PM
Three things would have to exist.
1) Thinness of the tire due to wear.
2) Sharpness of the shovel also due to wear.
3) Most important of all is the angle at which the shovel and tire meet and the resistance (shovel) vs force (tire).

Assuming that the tire is rotating and there is sufficient weight put the tire at the moment of impact the shovel could pierce the tire and the inner tube as well.
C

Keyboard Hound
09-25-2008, 06:11 PM
Thanks, all. This goes along with what I was thinking.

Leva
09-26-2008, 10:15 PM
I've destroyed a modern car tire by driving over a shovel in the road, so it's definitely possible. (It ripped out the inner sidewall of a rear tire for an instant and spectacular blowout. I think the shovel got caught by another tire and thrown into the rear tire.)

Gary
09-27-2008, 01:23 AM
It would be easy. Tires were of very poor quality compared to today, and I often had flats from running over a small, sharp rock...and the tire didn't have to be worn.

donroc
09-27-2008, 02:14 AM
Despite the flimsiness of the tires, today I'd love to have my father's '34 Chevy (with window shades) and '48 Packard and my '51 Plymouth convertable.

roncouch
09-27-2008, 02:30 AM
Despite the flimsiness of the tires, today I'd love to have my father's '34 Chevy (with window shades) and '48 Packard and my '51 Plymouth convertable.

Oh yes! I owned a 1949 Mercury - loved that car - black with fender skirts. My dad bought me a 1947 Desoto, but I wouldn't drive it because it was a 6 cyl with a fluid drive tranny. I needed a V-8! God, I wish I'd kept the Desoto - it was in mint condition (this was in 1958.) This probably isn't the right thread to discuss cars, but you started it donroc!:)

Keyboard Hound
09-27-2008, 09:13 AM
You guys can discuss cars in my thread anytime.

roncouch
09-27-2008, 03:57 PM
My car/truck purchasing history:)

1947 Desoto
1949 Mercury
1956 Ford
1958 Oldsmobile
1959 Ford
1960 Pontiac
1962 Chevrolet
1965 Chevelle Conv.
1965 Chevrolet
1968 Chevrolet
1974 Chevy Vega
1975 Monte Carlo
1976 Monte Carlo
1977 Buick Riviera
1977 Corvette
1978 Chevrolet
1979 Chevette
1979 Chevy Pick-up
1982 Chevy Pick-up
1986 Buick Park Ave
1987 S-10 Pickup
1988 Buick Park Ave
1990 Buick Park Ave
1991 Chevy Astro
1992 Buick Regal
2001 Chevy Blazer
2003 Chevy Pickup
2005 Chevy Blazer
2008 Buick LaSalle

donroc
09-27-2008, 04:53 PM
H.S. classmate of mine drove a 1929 Buick her senior year, and the car had side containers below the windows for soil and flowers in the back seat area. Outside it looked like the same type of auto used in The Untouchables.

roncouch
09-28-2008, 02:09 AM
My best HS friend had a 1947 Chevy convertable - metallic green with a white Carson top. I have an old B&W pic - somewhere :) It was a gem.

Gary
09-28-2008, 03:42 AM
My convertible's not that old, but it's still fun.

http://i37.photobucket.com/albums/e95/Valiant64/Valiant004.jpg