Scope--- I'll break it down for you elementally my dear Scopson.read my posts carefully. as you say 'it seems pretty simple to me'. I never said i would 'not write a platform that truly details the way I will help a publisher promote my work' that's ridiculous. in fact i went to considerable trouble to point out--in my post to laurieb-- that a well-crafted proposal would indeed entail aspects such as appearances, contacting media etc. that my dear friend would of course be apropos for the promotion component of the proposal. it is in fact a requisite component, as surely as an overview or chapter outline. proposals 101.
So very much more than you suggest goes into the platform chapter of one's proposal. Why don't you use us as guinea pigs and post only the platform section of you proposal.
ok? so regarding a 'negative or bs' answer to agent/publisher requesting platform... i have no idea where you got that from. must have mixed up your posts. look closely grasshoper and you will see that i merely stated that i would not 'construct' a platform before i had a contract.
Well, that's very adult of you. "Play games with the hand that can feed you." If you need a platform and put down things that aren't true, you are asking that your name be besmirched and and failure. But I guess you intend to be the one who fools them.
Oh, i'll play their retarded game, IF they got a contract for me, FIRST. i stated i would rather write than forge a fake, useless site.
If a sound, winning platform is needed and execution expected, I wouldn't count on any contract.
if i had a contract i'd be yes sir/maam 'sure i got a site all ready to go, media kit, thread/blog... whatever ya want mr/mrs pub. but you know what? do you seriously believe that by tossing up a website and grabbing a 2 dollar domain name and blabbing on a thread, that you will have magically created a 'platform'? tsk tsk very childish and naive.
Why not tell us exactly what a great and real platform should consist of. Use your work as an example.
as for your 'revolt? Whats in it for me?' scope... why revolt? 'cause it aint happenin for you or most anyone else on this site. howsabout them apples for starters. and what's in your way is traffic. thin out the traffic and your % rate for success rises. as you said. its really quite simple.
Oh really! Well, over 30 years of writing about 80 of my books have been published, and I'm still going strong. I do not and never have worried about "the traffic." You are right, it is rather simple (so to speak). Write a good, needed book with a large needy audience, write a terrific query letter and proposal (including platform). Work with your agent and publisher to produce winning results for all.
the traffic, in this case, is untalented--literary speaking--'platform authors'. they are keeping you from your dream and severely dilluting the literary arts. when you get these cats posting 'good writing is not important' on a writers site--and-- not only not getting called to task for that cardinal sin, b ut kow-towed to and bowed to--- yeah. it's time to revolt if you want to be able to look yourelf in the mirror or look into your child's eyes without shame. lastly--as you so aptly put it..we are millions who write. yes, but just because the writer has the soul of a writer he/she may not have the talent. same as kids love baseball doesn't mean they ca play in the majors. my point is the creme should be what rises to the top, not the waste-product. agreed?
Agreed, but how do you know you are the creme? What objective means leads you to this conclusion? Have you been published, and if so have your books been successful? And how do you define waste product in regard to writers? People write for a slew of reasons, including hobby and therapy.They aren't interested in making money. Others try to write commercially and come to realize that it's too tough a game for them or they don't have what it takes. Hooray for their trying, they certainly aren't "waste."
what happened was somewhere along the line editors got tired of getting fired/brutalized by their bosses and cobbled a shield. thus was born the 'platform'. yeah boss. strong platform, can't fire me. what's unsaid is 'horrible writing, never shoulda got a contract in the first place, but you 'bosses' bought our platform excuse and now we got a heckuva lot of 'platform' on the shelves and a heckuva lot less great writing'. and guess what great writing will win out in the end. why? 'cause' the readers will demand it or they will turn to other avenues to get it. blogs? what's the pay for those? get it? that's why markets are shrinking. if they shrink anymore the pubs will say hey, ya know the king has no clothes... that's what the 'writing community' has been loobying and blogging and insisting... and revolting about. and they were right. platforms can't write. thay were never witers to begin with, does a job title make em one now? you'd be surprised what a groundswell of contrary opinion can do over time. and remember, real writers are smart people. and smart people hang out with other smart people and talk to each other. a good idea spreads and makes it's way to publisher's ears. and their board's ears. and one day they say hey... we're tired of slipping market shares... you editors told us 'platform' would reduce the slide. well it hasn't. anyone for curling up with agood book for a change? and that my friend is how revolt works and how change is accomplished. or---- continue to get those rejction slips that you seem to love so much... and keep fawning over 'platformers' that are taking food out of your mouth and stimulation out of your children's brains. see. it really is, as you say, quite simple . blake