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Plot Device
08-24-2008, 09:47 PM
I wish I had a digital camera to take a picture of it for you guys. It scares me! (I have sealed it into a glass receptacle for the time being.)


BACKSTORY:

I have been dealing with ants for a few weeks now. So I cleared out all the kitchen cabinets (the kitchen table has been STACKED with all the food and the dishes) and have been cleaning the wooden cabinets very meticulously with strong cleaning solvents. Then I followed up by applying a strategically placed film of bug spray (I intend to let the cabinets air out for 24 hours before putting the food and dishes back again--and this time all the food goes into Tupperware-type stuff). I started with the upper cabinets and worked down to the lower ones. Lots of ant traps are going to go into the cabinets as well when I do the re-stocking phase.

This morning while doing the lower cabinets I found a dead insectoid creature with a fresh and still-wet trail of goo leading from his damaged body (so he's been dead less than a day). It's the size of a larger peanut M&M, and about as rounded and lumpy as one as well. It's a dark charcoal gray (almost black) and the surface is also ridged.



The very best internet photo I could come up with to try and show you guys what it looks like is this one (minus the hairy stuff):

http://www.entomology.wisc.edu/diaglab/04images/504anthrenus-carpet-beetle.jpg


It's got those funky ridges on it. And it's HUGE! But the creature in this photo is merely the size of a Grape Nut, while my critter is lima bean-sized.

I have no idea what to make of it. Does anyone have any information on what this alien entity might be?





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Ol' Fashioned Girl
08-24-2008, 09:50 PM
:eek: You didn't let it get close to your face, didja?

sassandgroove
08-24-2008, 09:51 PM
eww.

we had a huge spider in our sink the other day. thankfully mr. groove saved me from it.

Plot Device
08-24-2008, 09:54 PM
:eek: You didn't let it get close to your face, didja?


Fortunately, I was safely on the other side of the glass as I examined it.

http://www.chrysolithos.com/files/AlienFaceHugger.jpg

Ol' Fashioned Girl
08-24-2008, 09:56 PM
I knew you, of all people, would know the proper precautions to take.

Susie
08-24-2008, 09:57 PM
That's alien encounters of the worst kind. :D Hope you can get rid of it, or maybe keep it as a pet? :)

Plot Device
08-24-2008, 10:00 PM
That's alien encounters of the worst kind. :D Hope you can get rid of it, or maybe keep it as a pet? :)


Fortunately it's dead.

I suspect it has probably shrunk in size somewhat because it lost a substantial amount of goo from whatever caused the rupture, and the surface has dried out.

I truly think it was much larger 24 hours ago when it was still alive.




And now that I think about it......... I susepct I know what it is.





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nerds
08-24-2008, 10:02 PM
Might be a pill bug. They don't do any harm. Normally are outdoors but can be borne in on one's self or items. Does this guy look like your bug?


http://home.att.net/~larvalbugbio/beast/bbeast8-06.jpg

Plot Device
08-24-2008, 10:08 PM
I am striking out on a Google Image search, but I a wondering if it's an abandoned egg sac from some kind of a queen. I susect this because I have turned the thing over repeatedly and examined it with a Plus-5 magnifying glass with its own LED light bulb and I've been been unable to find any legs. So it was a toss up between being either a bug or an egg sac. I launched this thread with the position that it was a bug, but now I am leaning toward egg sac.



MY THEORY:

I was spraying like crazy and maybe the critters (not necesarilly ants but SOME kind of queen/hive creature) were trying to move the queen to safety. But after the fumes overwelmed them, they perhaps had to ditch the current egg sac and then quickly move on to less hostile territory.

Perhaps the goo is the trail of blood and guts that the queen left behind from where she violently detached herself from the sac.

I don't know enough about ANY sort of bug to know for sure if this is what happened. I do know this thing is either a dead creature with a yucky puncture in the side of its dead bpdy, or a dead PIECE of a creature which has recently vacated and left behind a freshly goo-ed trail.



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Plot Device
08-24-2008, 10:09 PM
Might be a pill bug. They don't do any harm. Normally are outdoors but can be borne in on one's self or items. Does this guy look like your bug?


http://home.att.net/~larvalbugbio/beast/bbeast8-06.jpg


Let me examine it again.

The lack of legs is peculiar. I will try to see if I missed the legs.




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Ol' Fashioned Girl
08-24-2008, 10:10 PM
Oh, lausy! You know how THAT turned out!

You better nuke the house from orbit. It's the only way to be sure.

nerds
08-24-2008, 10:13 PM
Pill bugs are totally cool. They're not a bug at all, they're a tiny crustacean. They help break down compost, forest floor humus and such, help create new soil.

:)

Plot Device
08-24-2008, 10:16 PM
No legs. No head. No antennae. Just more ridges on both sides of it.

nerds
08-24-2008, 10:18 PM
a few non-chemical remedies for ants etc. They do work. Plus if you do any amount of regular cleaning with white vinegar, inside cabinets and such, they won't come around.


http://www.clevelandseniors.com/home/althome.htm


http://www.planetnatural.com/site/xdpy/kb/natural-pest-controls.html


http://www.thefrugallife.com/ants.html

Plot Device
08-24-2008, 10:19 PM
My skin is absolutely crawling as I continue posting in this thread. I know I'll be having nightmares tonight.

Plot Device
08-24-2008, 10:20 PM
a few non-chemical remedies for ants. They do work. Plus if you do any amount of regular cleaning with white vinegar, inside cabinets and such, they won't come around.


http://www.clevelandseniors.com/home/althome.htm


http://www.planetnatural.com/site/xdpy/kb/natural-pest-controls.html


http://www.thefrugallife.com/ants.html


Thank you. I've heard of the vinegar strategy. I will try to employ it in the future.

Plot Device
08-24-2008, 10:20 PM
Oh, lausy! You know how THAT turned out!

You better nuke the house from orbit. It's the only way to be sure.


Indeed.

stormie
08-24-2008, 10:24 PM
a few non-chemical remedies for ants etc. They do work. Plus if you do any amount of regular cleaning with white vinegar, inside cabinets and such, they won't come around.
I swear by white vinegar. Undilluted. Kills ants and keeps them away. Works to even keep crickets out of the house. (I pour it around the outside foundation in early summer, very close to the walls.)

Plot Device
08-24-2008, 10:30 PM
http://mine.icanhascheezburger.com/default.aspx?preview=1&source=http%3A//images.icanhascheezburger.com/imagestore/2008/3/9/5a90fefa-3134-403f-9505-0231ad7339e2.jpg&top=I%20don%27t%20know%20wat%20it%20iz...&bottom=I%20iz%20scared%21&middle=but&font=Impact&color=White&size=50&bold=true&italic=false&underlined=false&style=outline&opacity=100&topalignment=left&middlealignment=left&bottomalignment=left


:D

nerds
08-24-2008, 10:31 PM
I swear by white vinegar. Undilluted. Kills ants and keeps them away. Works to even keep crickets out of the house. (I pour it around the outside foundation in early summer, very close to the walls.)


Good for you. I am the Anti-Chem of all time so I'm always glad to see people using the natural remedies. Which work as well and better than any chem pesticides, and who wants to be exposed to pesticides anyway, especially in the spaces where they live and breathe every day. To say nothing of what it does to the balance of things and the environment.

Plot Device
08-24-2008, 10:33 PM
eww.

we had a huge spider in our sink the other day. thankfully mr. groove saved me from it.


Huge, right??

http://www.origins.tv/Entomology/Florida2005/Bugs/SpiderA1032105HickoryPt.jpg

So huge he filled the entire drain I bet. (I've seen those monstrosities you guys have down there in the South. Yuck!)

PattiTheWicked
08-24-2008, 10:37 PM
My skin is absolutely crawling as I continue posting in this thread. I know I'll be having nightmares tonight.

My skin is crawling from looking at that photo.

It's time to get a realtor and just move.

regdog
08-24-2008, 11:58 PM
umm just two thoughts
1)eeeeeeeeeewwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwww
2)eeeeeeeeeeeeekkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkk

Devil Ledbetter
08-25-2008, 12:09 AM
I don't know what your critter is, but I have cupboard pest suggestion which I learned about when my kitchen came down with a stubborn case of Indian meal moths: once your cupboards are thoroughly cleaned, store your flour (and anything other grains that gets "dusty") in the freezer. Leaving bugs nothing to eat is a nontoxic way to get rid of them.

But yeah, if I saw that thing anywhere near my food, I'd want a nuclear bomb to destroy it.;)

Plot Device
08-25-2008, 12:10 AM
I finally decided to just get rid of it. I sealed it in a ziplock baggie, tossed it in the trash, and the took the trash out.

But I did one last examination of it to try and see if I had missed the legs of a pill bug. MAYBE it's a bug. But there's no head, and his legs are either gone or he super tightly curled them over into a total flushness against his own body (sort of a bug fetal position) so that they were indiscernible.

I also did something kinda gross with it as soon as I got it into the baggie: I squished him. And then all this white gooey stuff spurted out toothpaste-style from what might have been his head (or the spot where a head used to be).

I just can't stand this subject anymore. I don't think I'll be back to this thread again. Between the sight of that horrible creature and the reeking odor of bug spray all over the house, I can't think about it any longer. I need to vacate.

Thanks to all who responded. :)

Plot Device
08-25-2008, 12:12 AM
I don't know what your critter is, but I have cupboard pest suggestion which I learned about when my kitchen came down with a stubborn case of Indian meal moths: once your cupboards are thoroughly cleaned, store your flour (and anything other grains that gets "dusty") in the freezer. Leaving bugs nothing to eat is a nontoxic way to get rid of them.

But yeah, if I saw that thing anywhere near my food, I'd want a nuclear bomb to destroy it.;)


Good suggestion. But I have no room in the freezer. Instead I use plastic sealed containers like this:

http://www.foodstorageworld.com/cambro-camsquarecontainers-pic.jpg

Albedo
08-25-2008, 03:08 AM
It was probably either a recently-vacated pupa, or a cochroach's eggsac. Which would mean you've got either one or a hundred new friends in your walls.

nerds
08-25-2008, 03:27 AM
. . .or a cockroach's eggsac . . .


ooh! Bet you're right -


http://images.whatsthatbug.com/images/cockroach_oothica.jpg



Plot. Plot? Better come have a look. And they're not always this color, different strokes for different roaches, as it were.

Don
08-25-2008, 03:31 AM
My skin is absolutely crawling as I continue posting in this thread. I know I'll be having nightmares tonight.

Didya see the Twilight Zone episode where everytime he killed the spider, it came back again, but it was twice as large? :rolleyes:

rugcat
08-25-2008, 03:39 AM
If you really have to know what kind of insect you've found, you can send it to this guy:

http://www.askthebugman.com/

nerds
08-25-2008, 03:52 AM
If you really have to know what kind of insect you've found, you can send it to this guy:

http://www.askthebugman.com/


How totally cool. I love bugs. And bug detective work.


p.s. omg, rugcat, excellent site. That's where I'll be this evening, reading.

Plot Device
08-25-2008, 04:21 PM
It was probably either a recently-vacated pupa, or a cochroach's eggsac. Which would mean you've got either one or a hundred new friends in your walls.


ooh! Bet you're right -


http://images.whatsthatbug.com/images/cockroach_oothica.jpg



Plot. Plot? Better come have a look. And they're not always this color, different strokes for different roaches, as it were.


No nightmares last night.

As for a recently vacated pupa, that seems logical. But what was in it?

I don't think it was a roach sac because I don't think roach sac have those kinds of ridges.

It kinda reminded me of a blackberry not the hand held device --the berry. But kinda dried out slightly.

Plot Device
08-25-2008, 04:22 PM
Didya see the Twilight Zone episode where everytime he killed the spider, it came back again, but it was twice as large? :rolleyes:


:D

Pagey's_Girl
08-25-2008, 04:50 PM
Didya see the Twilight Zone episode where everytime he killed the spider, it came back again, but it was twice as large? :rolleyes:

I bet that explains the progressively larger centipede(s) invading our dorm freshman year.

Me (watching a twelve-inch pincered monster rippling up the wall) Oh my ******* God....
Roomate: Oh my ******* God, kill it!
Me: I'm not getting near it. You kill it.
Her: I'm not gonna kill it. You kill it. It's on your side of the room.
Me: It's over your side of the dresser. (Funny how that was never an issue pre-invasion.)
Her: I'm not getting near it.

We finally bombed it from ten feet away with Raid. Luckily it fell back behind the built-in dresser, so disposal of the carcass wasn't an issue...