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gophergrrrl
07-26-2008, 05:21 AM
Do you know anything about chemicals? I don't. I slept through science class. It was atrociously boring, I couldn't help it.

So, I'm not giving away my premise, (mwuahaha), but I was hoping that maybe someone here could help me out or put me onto some resources that provide some idea of what kind of chemicals that I could make mention of in my script that would, A.)make some zombies, B.)possibly be available to civilians, teenagers, even. And, 3.) maybe these chems would also be toxic if touched or inhaled.

Obviously.... there probably aren't really chems to do this with, but I need an idea of something that would be believeable.

clockwork
07-26-2008, 05:54 AM
Hi Gopher, moved your thread here where you're likely to get better responses.

Not much help myself, I'm afraid. :)

ivorywhisper
07-26-2008, 06:00 AM
"Several decades later, Wade Davis (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wade_Davis), a Harvard (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Harvard)ethnobotanist (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ethnobotanist), presented a pharmacological case for zombies in two books, The Serpent and the Rainbow (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Serpent_and_the_Rainbow) (1985 (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/1985)) and Passage of Darkness: The Ethnobiology of the Haitian Zombie (1988 (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/1988)). Davis traveled to Haiti in 1982 and, as a result of his investigations, claimed that a living person can be turned into a zombie by two special powders being entered into the blood stream (usually via a wound). The first, coup de poudre (French: 'powder strike'), includes tetrodotoxin (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tetrodotoxin) (TTX), the poison found in fugu (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Fugu). The second powder is composed of dissociatives (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dissociative_drug) such as datura (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Datura). Together, these powders were said to induce a death-like state in which the victim's will would be entirely subject to that of the bokor. Davis also popularized the story of Clairvius Narcisse (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Clairvius_Narcisse), who was claimed to have succumbed to this practice. There is wide belief among the Haitian people of the existence of the "zombie drug "

This is just from wikipedia. You might try to check out the actual books.

WriteKnight
07-26-2008, 06:13 AM
Actually, yes - I have a whole cabinet of stuff that regularly turns teens into zombies.

Its called a liquour cabinet.


Sorry......

benbradley
07-26-2008, 07:25 AM
WriteKnight's response implying 'spirits' is interesting in that I was thinking that to reanimate a dead person would indeed require something spiritual rather than chemical. Or perhaps something physical that has spiritual power, such as a monkey's paw (http://gaslight.mtroyal.ca/mnkyspaw.htm).

The chemical idea just doesn't do it for me (but then I'm a pretty hard-core reductionist and probably not representative of your story's intended audience, so take my opinion with a grain silo of salt). If it's got to be some fluid for reanimating dead bodies, I'd sooner believe Holy Water stolen carefully borrowed from the Vatican after the Pope has blessed it than anything because of its chemical makeup.

"Borrowing" the holy water could cause a problem for the souls of babies who end up christened with ordinary tap water, but I presume that would be a minor consequence in your story, if it gets any mention at all.

MelancholyMan
07-26-2008, 08:06 AM
Do some research on putrescine and cadaverine. I think that'll give you some ideas.

-MM

gophergrrrl
07-28-2008, 05:21 AM
Thank you very much, fellas! =o]

Ziljon
07-28-2008, 05:26 AM
what about: http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/en/thumb/b/bc/Clamato_can.jpg/250px-Clamato_can.jpg

Fern
07-28-2008, 09:20 PM
When my boy was small he carried a dead minnow around in his pocket for a day, petting it occasionally, thinking it was only sleeping. He was highly upset when he sprinkled water on it and it didn't wake up. Makes me think you might try just plain ol' water, perhaps coming out of one particular source and no other.

Sarpedon
07-28-2008, 10:14 PM
I don't think stealing the holy water would cause any problems in a baptism. I think that an ordained clergyman using water for a baptism is enough to make it holy, at least as far as I understand it.

You might consider using Natron. Natron was one of the embalming agents the ancient egyptians used, so you can get some mummy action going there too. (I am assuming we are talking purely magically here, with no science allowed)

I believe I heard that the Qin Emperor had his body surrounded by a lake of mercury (quicksilver) for some reason, probably because of some belief about its magical properties (or possibly just to poison potential graverobbers). Archaeologists have not penetrated his tomb, but have noted high concentrations of mercury in the surrounding soil.

If you are looking for something that would preserve a body in a life-like state, then the answer is Formaldehyde. I remember reading in the book 'The Private Life of Chairman Mao' about the steps taken to preserve his body after death. This involved injecting more than a liter of Formaldehyde into his circulatory system. (Alas, I do not recall how much was used, only that they used more than was recommended, with embarrasing consequences)

Vincent
07-28-2008, 10:21 PM
2-4-5 Trioxin comes to mind. The army played with it in the 60s, resulting in all kinds of zombie mayhem over the decades.

http://i151.photobucket.com/albums/s154/momos_72gmc/Entertainment/tarman2.jpg

Of course, that was only a movie. In real life, there is no chemical that brings the dead back to life. Though I am very partial to the army gas leak that starts the zombie outbreak scenario.

shawkins
07-28-2008, 10:43 PM
How about a sinister energy drink?

hammerklavier
07-28-2008, 11:57 PM
A precise mixture of the following ingredients should do it:

Uranium salts
amalgamating fluid
active polymers
fruit punch gatorade

followed by a blast of microwaves and a jolt of 220 hz power (the kind that flows into American houses but is reduced at the fuse box)

Do not try this at home unless you are an electrician, chemist and doctor and have received prior consent from the cadavier.