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Ageless Stranger
07-24-2008, 04:16 AM
I know I may well be stoned for this but does anyone get genuine pleasure from smoking? I know that I like nothing better than relaxing with a strong cup of tea and a cigerette but is this the same for any other smokers out there? Do you smoke for the pleasure of it? Or do you light up merely because your body/mind demands it?

Rolling Thunder
07-24-2008, 04:21 AM
I smoke cigars strictly for pleasure. If the store is out of my brand, or worse, has stale packets that are hard as twigs, I do without. If I have a cold I can also go for weeks without smoking.

Perks
07-24-2008, 04:26 AM
I don't smoke but the very rare half stick with a friend, but I also smoke the occasional cigar because it's very pleasant and I have always looked at smoking, according to my mother, the wrong way. I even blogged about it and called it 'Secret Admirer'. Lol!

Jersey Chick
07-24-2008, 04:30 AM
I quit smoking* 8 weeks ago and God, I miss my morning coffee and cigarette on the deck...

On the other hand, I can actually breathe now... which is always a plus...




* - it's the 5th or 6th time I've quit. I'm good at quitting, lousy at staying away...

Cranky
07-24-2008, 04:32 AM
Habit and pleasure. Been doing it for so long I'd hardly know what to do with myself if I didn't.

That said, I'm not all that bad. 10 or so a day, depending on the day. :D

I'll get around to quitting again one day.

Melenka
07-24-2008, 04:32 AM
Yes.

Also raw stupidity on my part, I know.

Ageless Stranger
07-24-2008, 04:32 AM
Ah! Cigars! I remember my dad smoking them when I was a kid, they stank to high hell and now years later, I actually quite enjoy the odd cigar.

Jersey Chick
07-24-2008, 04:33 AM
Habit and pleasure. Been doing it for so long I'd hardly know what to do with myself if I didn't.

That said, I'm not all that bad. 10 or so a day, depending on the day. :D

I'll get around to quitting again one day.

I figure it's only a matter of time before I'm quitting again, too ;)

Cranky
07-24-2008, 04:34 AM
Hey, at least we're persistent, Jersey! :D

Snowstorm
07-24-2008, 04:34 AM
What is it about smoking, either cigars or cigarettes, that gives you pleasure or is enjoyable?

Eeek
07-24-2008, 04:34 AM
Both. A lot of pleasure and a very heavy-duty addiction.

(I quit three years ago, and now think of smoking as a former friend who I had to drop -- someone who gave me pleasure, sure, but caused more trouble than s/he was worth.)

Rolling Thunder
07-24-2008, 04:37 AM
Ah! Cigars! I remember my dad smoking them when I was a kid, they stank to high hell and now years later, I actually quite enjoy the odd cigar.

I smoke Backwoods Sweet Aromatic cigars. I'm often asked what I'm smoking because they have a great smell. They're rather mild, too, and quite enjoyable.

Just stay away from the Wild Rum flavor. It's like smoking a bar of butterscotch.

willfulone
07-24-2008, 04:40 AM
I smoke for pleasure. I have never smoked out of habit and can go days or weeks without smoking. But, I can also smoke a whole pack in a day if I am up 24 hours. It varies based upon my moods, not my desire for nicotine.

And, I enjoy the occasional cigar myself, especially right after a rare prime rib/baked potato dinner with a scotch.

Christine

Ageless Stranger
07-24-2008, 04:44 AM
What is it about smoking, either cigars or cigarettes, that gives you pleasure or is enjoyable?


The smell of tobacco before and while it's burning, the taste of a cigerette as it glides across my tongue, the hazy curls and patterns it forms in the air as it lists away. I enjoy the whole experience really.

Cigerettes/cigars are quite nice after a good meal aren't they?

Jersey Chick
07-24-2008, 04:55 AM
You. Are. Killing. Me.



;)

Ageless Stranger
07-24-2008, 04:58 AM
:tongue Ain't I a stinker?

Jersey Chick
07-24-2008, 05:00 AM
Gah!

Mumut
07-24-2008, 05:26 AM
I quit smoking* 8 weeks ago and God, I miss my morning coffee and cigarette on the deck...

I quit in 1970 for economic reasons. A packet of twenty Benson and Hedges went from thirty cents to thirty-three cents. I thought nobody in the world could afford a ten percent increase in the cost of smoking. So I quit my sixty-a-day habit.

I had enjoyed smoking. It helped me relax and socialise. Also, when I was stationed in an inaccessable area - seven hours walk from the nearest shops as ling as the croc infested rivers weren't up - I smoked a pipe. My favourite tobacco tasted great but was foul for everyone else. My second favourite wasn't nearly as nice but everyone else liked the fragrance.

But keep at giving up, Jersey Chick. It is worth it when you don't have the craving any more.

Silver King
07-24-2008, 05:49 AM
For those who enjoy smoking and would like a place to relax and exhale, I welcome you to Aw's designated smoking area (http://www.absolutewrite.com/forums/showthread.php?t=57542).

For all others, please step away from your monitor, at least ten feet back, lest you be subjected to dangerous carcinogens.

Jersey Chick
07-24-2008, 06:26 AM
Man, I bet that room smells awful...

dolores haze
07-24-2008, 06:28 AM
Yup - that thread hasn't been aired out in a long, long time.

TerzaRima
07-24-2008, 06:30 AM
My friends and I took up smoking in college, partly to look cool and partly in sheeplike imitation of the size 0 girl on our dorm floor who said that the cancer sticks were the secret to her waifishness.

I really worked at it. I puffed away earnestly for a semester or so, wondering when smoking was going to get fun. Finally I gave up and I was so relieved to give away my lighter and my ashtray--it's so strange how you think at that age.

Meanwhile, one of my friends who started smoking at that time still smokes, has tried to quit many times, and probably kills four packs a week. Like so many other addictions, I think the determinants of this one are probably innate.

joyce
07-24-2008, 06:42 AM
I have to say I smoke for pleasure. I like menthol so if I run out and I've only got regular ones around, I won't smoke at all. Nothing is better after a good meal. I know it's bad for me but I still enjoy it. I figure I could have worse habits like being a crack addict or something.:D

Seaclusion
07-24-2008, 06:49 AM
I figure I could have worse habits like being a crack addict or something.:D

Or AW...aka crack for writers.

Richard

Fraulein
07-24-2008, 06:58 AM
I'll smoke one cigarette every six months or so.

It started off as a rebellious act when I was dating a guy in Germany. Now it's just a celebration of that rebellious act. ;)

Appalachian Writer
07-24-2008, 07:01 AM
I started smoking late in life...35...because I was one of the few women doing my then-job and the guys kept offering me cigarettes. I started accepting the offer and then.BOOM. I was hooked. I'm an addict, and I do enjoy a good cigarette. I know. I know. I smell like an ashtray. My teeth are yellowing. I'm wholly unattractive, but hey, most women my age don't look so good and the ashtray? We've all got to smell like something.

ErylRavenwell
07-24-2008, 07:53 AM
I derive no pleasure from smoking. Haven't touched a cigarette for a year or so. Never been a regular smoker either.

benbradley
07-24-2008, 07:54 AM
I smoked for about 17 years, some of the time it was pleasurable, other times it just made me feel like crap (often after a night of drinking when I would smoke an extra pack that night - both the smoking and drinking contributed to the hangover, but also at times when I wasn't drinking at all).

Back in my last few years of smoking I heard some official organization, maybe the American Lung Association, say that it's six times harder to quit smoking than to quit a heroin addiction - and if you saw the smoking in 12-step meetings (or outside the door, as more and more places went non-smoking), you wouldn't doubt it. The joke coming out of that was that Smokers Anonymous is a 72-step program.

But then I quit smoking on my own, without any help, and if I could do that, then...

kct webber
07-24-2008, 08:23 AM
Addiction or pleasure? Both. I love smoking.

*lights another*

Jersey Chick
07-24-2008, 09:05 AM
Back in my last few years of smoking I heard some official organization, maybe the American Lung Association, say that it's six times harder to quit smoking than to quit a heroin addiction - and if you saw the smoking in 12-step meetings (or outside the door, as more and more places went non-smoking), you wouldn't doubt it. The joke coming out of that was that Smokers Anonymous is a 72-step program.

I remember hearing or reading this same thing - I want to say it was Time magazine, but I can't swear to it. I think it was also in Time that I read there's something in your brain that connects alcohol and nicotine - alcohol makes you crave nicotine, which makes sense considering there are some people who smoke only when they drink and don't touch tobacco any other time.

Interesting.

rugcat
07-24-2008, 09:06 AM
"Tobacco is a nasty weed, I love it;
Tobacco is an expensive habit, I love it;
Tobacco is a messy practice, I love it;
Tobacco is a social crutch, I love it;
Tobacco is my master, I love it!"

I can't remember where this ditty originally came from, but it's true. I quit fifteen years ago for health reasons. The addiction is long gone, but I still miss that morning cigarette. Not to mention the "after" cigarette, if you know what I mean.

Chameleon
07-24-2008, 10:35 AM
It's both. Nowadays, it is more of a stress reliever.

I remember the first 3 years where I wasn't addicted (I could go on days without it) but then mid-college, it was a full-blown habit.

Having said that, I really it hate it when people come up to lecture me especially while enjoying a nice quiet time smoking outside. In my mind, I really like :Headbang:. Outwardly, I just give them some sort of retort in a polite manner.

freezer burned
07-24-2008, 11:51 AM
The reason it's harder to quit smoking than to quit heroin is because tobacco is legal.

JimmyB27
07-24-2008, 01:16 PM
I'm another casual cigar smoker. I like the taste of a really good cigar. I have been known to smoke the odd cigarette when really drunk too. The nicotine high is awesome if you aren't used to it. :D
I really want to get hold of a really good cigar, a big ol' Cuban or such. One where you have to bite the end off, give a little grin and say "I love it when a plan comes together."
I also really want to try smoking a pipe.

James81
07-24-2008, 03:41 PM
Mostly habit anymore, although if I could somehow manage to get myself back down to a half a pack a day, I'd probably enjoy it more.

Maryn
07-24-2008, 04:59 PM
I quit for what I hope is the last time in 2000, after smoking on and off for the previous fifteen years. Before that, I smoked about a pack and a half a day for another fifteen years, had chronic sinus problems, and didn't really enjoy it, just needed it.

And I still crave cigarettes just about every single day. Smelling one, from a distance, makes me want a smoke really bad. Seeing someone smoke, especially with evident pleasure, is worse, even if I can't smell it because it's on a movie screen or behind glass. My idle mind turns to cigarettes often. About twice a year I'll bum a cigarette off someone. The experience is still wonderful.

Of course, I've never used heroin, but quitting and staying quit it difficult in the extreme.

Maryn, whose craving has kicked in because she thought about them to write this

Kthrok
07-24-2008, 06:51 PM
oh sure make me want a smoke when i am sitting in the library and cant go for one...

i smoke for both reasons addiction and pleasure...tho the Ontario gov is taking away more of those pleasures

made a law last couple of years that cant smoke under anything with a roof even at bars if they have the umbella's over the tables and they touch in any way you cant smoke under them

smoothseas
07-24-2008, 07:07 PM
Both....

James81
07-24-2008, 07:16 PM
oh sure make me want a smoke when i am sitting in the library and cant go for one...

i smoke for both reasons addiction and pleasure...tho the Ontario gov is taking away more of those pleasures

made a law last couple of years that cant smoke under anything with a roof even at bars if they have the umbella's over the tables and they touch in any way you cant smoke under them

That's the most ridiculous thing I've ever heard of.

It's time the smokers started fighting back when this stuff happens.

Kthrok
07-24-2008, 07:22 PM
That's the most ridiculous thing I've ever heard of.

It's time the smokers started fighting back when this stuff happens.

funny thing i see is that smokers still out number the non-smokers and the gov is falling just short of making smoking illeagal all together....tho if that did ban smoking think of the money the gov would lose just from the taxes

Shadow_Ferret
07-24-2008, 07:35 PM
I know I may well be stoned for this but does anyone get genuine pleasure from smoking? I know that I like nothing better than relaxing with a strong cup of tea and a cigerette but is this the same for any other smokers out there? Do you smoke for the pleasure of it? Or do you light up merely because your body/mind demands it?
If it stops becoming pleasurable then it's time to quit. I quit for several reasons, one of which was I just didn't enjoy it any longer. It was a drudge to drag myself out of the building and stand in the cold or rain and have a smoke.

I still do enjoy a cigar every now and again, although this lousy weather we're having is preventing me from that, too.


funny thing i see is that smokers still out number the non-smokers ...I thought that had changed sometime in the 80s when non-smokers became the majority.

Chameleon
07-24-2008, 07:43 PM
....tho if that did ban smoking think of the money the gov would lose just from the taxes

That has to be alot of money they're making because a pack over there costs almost double than what it costs here. Every time I make a trip across the border, I have to make sure I'm fully stocked. If I move back to Ontario (which is likely in the near future), I swear I'm quitting.

benbradley
07-24-2008, 07:59 PM
funny thing i see is that smokers still out number the non-smokers and the gov is falling just short of making smoking illeagal all together....tho if that did ban smoking think of the money the gov would lose just from the taxes

Huh? Where do you live? The percentage (and I think absolute numbers) of Americans who smoke has beein going down for many decades (resisting the temptation to look it up on The Ultimate Internet Authority On Life, The Universe, And Everthing, aka Wikipedia). The tobacco companies have been surviving in two ways - diversifying into huge conglomerate "consumer producs" companies, and advertising and selling more cigarettes overseas.

My brother and sister-in-law smoke, they order cigarettes online from who-knows-where overseas. I've seen the packs, they're the standard Marlboro logo and the rest is non-Roman lettering, perhaps Arabic.

As long as the tobacco-growing states have representatives in Congress, tobacco will be legal (at least to grow it and MAKE cigarettes!) in the USA.

While I'm at it, here's something from popular culture (1947 - i didn't know this song was quite THAT old!) (chorus only, falls under Fair Use by my personal ruling):

"Smoke, smoke, smoke that cigarette
Puff, puff, puff until you smoke yourself to death.

"Tell St. Peter at the Golden Gate
That you hate to make him wait,
But you just gotta have another cigarette."

Full lyrics here, they're a hoot:
http://www.tobacco.org/History/Smoke_Cigarette.html
And tobacco.org looks like an interesting site overall, if you're into that sort of thing,

Akuma
07-25-2008, 01:04 AM
Or AW...aka crack for writers.

Richard

There is a disturbing amount of truth in this.

Ageless Stranger
07-25-2008, 04:23 AM
That's the most ridiculous thing I've ever heard of.

It's time the smokers started fighting back when this stuff happens.

I'm with you there. Even before I started smoking I had a problem with the idea of trying to force people to stop. It was a more of a principle thing. I know the argument that passive smoke kills people but some of the evidence on that looks a little shaky.

http://beta.vreel.net/watch_8172.html

You need DVX or whatever it's called to watch it but it's an interesting vid. Plus Penn and Teller are hilarious.

ErylRavenwell
07-25-2008, 11:03 AM
That's the most ridiculous thing I've ever heard of.

It's time the smokers started fighting back when this stuff happens.

But please don't you be smoking in my bus shelter, because I'd probably be more of health hazard than the cigarette you're smoking.

giraffe!
07-25-2008, 11:08 AM
Pleasure.

As a teenager, there's nothing quite as fulfilling as an unhealthy, accessible vice that serves as some kind of rebellion.