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Bayley
06-25-2008, 10:22 PM
Sorry, I know it's a bit of a minor matter, but it really nags me. In one scene a artist bribes the POV character into painting with him. He wears what he always wears, paint splattered jeans and a black T-shirt with paint on, again.

Anyway, my POV character is a ex-model who now works as a detective. Her wardrobe contains a few designer dresses from the past, lots of suits and blouses, skinny jeans, flares and lots of T-shirts with prints on. Her clothing isn't described in every scene, I think it's only described three times throught the whole book. Anyway, this scene it's important as I need him to take the mickey out of her outfit and they're painting in public, so I need her to be embarrassed by her outfit, as it's something she wouldn't wear in public.

It can't have paint on as she doesn't paint, it can't look perfect as she wouldn't want to ruin it. I'm thinking faded skinny jeans that were once black but are now grey, flats (she wouldn't wear trainers) and some sort of T-shirt. I want something arty, but she wouldn't wear an oversized blouse as that would probably look like she was wearing her ex's shirt. Any help is greatly appreciated as although I'm into fashion I don't have anything in my wardrobe that I would paint in.

PS, I mean painting canvas, not walls

TheIT
06-25-2008, 10:29 PM
T-shirt and jeans sounds fine. If she's really paranoid about not getting paint on her clothes, then add an apron or smock.

Jenan Mac
06-25-2008, 10:33 PM
If she's wearing a t-shirt, could it have some sort of logo that would embarrass her? Some band or label that's completely out of favor, or something?

sheadakota
06-25-2008, 10:33 PM
I remember the first time I wemt horseback riding with my husband- then boyfriend- it was only our second date and I was not horse-savy at the time and wore shorts (to show off my legs;)) and what I thought was a reasonably worn t-shirt. He took one look at me and said "Do you have any Jeans with you?" He gave me an old T-shirt of his to wear instead of mine-
LOL! I wore the shorts but got rubbed raw by the saddle- maybe he could give her a shirt of his to wear over her own- Like an old paint-spattered button down oxford-

jennifer75
06-25-2008, 10:33 PM
I'm thinking you should throw some denim overalls on her, stylish ones though. She'll think she's wearing the most appropriate, yet still have some style to it. And a name brand Tee underneath, you know, like a RL or something with sequins. Hehe.

Bayley
06-25-2008, 10:33 PM
She wouldn't wear a smock in public, it would make her look fat. Same with overalls.

I like the idea of a T-shirt, I just can't think of anything to put on it. I was thinking of perhaps a T-shirt with brushstrokes print, but that'll be out of fashion by next year, so when my book is finished people wil have alredy forgotton about the trend and wonder what I'm talking about. I like the idea about a band that's out of fashion, but she isn't music savvy, which is an important detail when she takes the mickey out of her friend's music collection. Although, she could have been in a group in university and they could have had T-shirts made, but whether she would hang on to it for seven years and wear it knowing she'd have to explain it, I doubt it. I guess you don't have to be music savvy to know about bands, so I might do a little research online in old bands that had T-shirts, but are now out of fashion.

I suppose he could always lend her something, but then she'd probably just take it off in public. She'd rather ruin a top then look like an idiot in front of strangers.

Siddow
06-25-2008, 10:39 PM
One thing I've always done is paint barefoot. That way, if you step on dropped paint, you'll know and won't track it through the house. It may not make a difference in public on a sidewalk, but could your character have a sixth toe or be missing the tip of a toe or some other reason why she'd prefer to NOT be barefoot in public?

Sarpedon
06-25-2008, 10:44 PM
When I did some watercoloring at architecture school, I would frequently do it in my underwear so as not to get it on my clothes (as I am a clumsy man) Of course, this was only when I was in my apartment. When I did it at the school itself, I wore clothes.

Bayley
06-25-2008, 10:49 PM
She has normal feet, unfortunately. However, I do like the idea of her having a body insecurity that get's found out about in the scene.

And I can't imagine them painting in their underwear even in his apartment, as he already has paint on his clothes, so what's a little more? And she wouldn't strip to her underwear in front of him. Although it could make an interesting scene.

Sarpedon
06-25-2008, 10:54 PM
How about an airforce surplus flightsuit? Covers the whole body, and it has lots of pockets.

Bayley
06-25-2008, 10:59 PM
That would be funny

Danger Jane
06-25-2008, 11:56 PM
The Spice Girls would be a pretty embarassing t shirt. If she's a former model, they'd probably be right around the right time, late nineties?

Flats seem like a really weird choice for painting. Barefoot, cheap flip flops, like the $5 plastic kind, or else old sneakers would be more expected.

Smiling Ted
06-26-2008, 02:49 AM
I've known a couple of ex-models who were doing other things pretty successfully. They both tended to be casual and confident in their choice of clothes. Very matter of fact...they control the clothes, not the other way around.

I think she'd show up in clothes she doesn't care about, and wouldn't care what she looked like. Old jeans, old T, no fuss. She'd probably have some already "ruined" clothes just to wear for messy things like this.

chevbrock
06-26-2008, 03:35 AM
I was thinking something completely innapropriate. Maybe a pencil skirt and a flouncy top with heaps of frills hanging off it, to drag through the paint. Maybe she could team it with a tres chic beret! :)

Perle_Rare
06-26-2008, 05:59 AM
Washed out jeans, a tight-fitting t-shirt (one she already owns) and a well-worn, unbuttoned denim shirt overtop. Sleeves rolled up.

If they're in his appartment, the shirt would be one of his, naturally. She'd wear it just to protect her t-shirt.

I liked the barefoot image too...

goatmam
06-26-2008, 06:02 AM
Make it casual then, or perhaps jeans and a flannel shirt. Maybe some tennis shoes or something like that?

katiemac
06-26-2008, 06:07 AM
Flats seem like a really weird choice for painting. Barefoot, cheap flip flops, like the $5 plastic kind, or else old sneakers would be more expected.

Same thoughts I had about the flats, too. I've been spending my weekends painting a friend's relative's house, and we always paint barefoot because we generally only have nicer shoes (and "nice" is relative on our budgets).

My thoughts: She wears the normal jeans and out-of-style t-shirt, but forgets about wearing crappy shoes (it's an easy thing to forget, really, especially if you haven't painted in awhile) and he makes fun of her for showing up in some nice heels or an expensive pair of flats. Easy fix though, she ends up painting barefoot. Or, on the flipside, she DOES have a pair of shoes she doesn't care if she ruins, but they're terrible stripper-ish stilettos from modeling days or maybe an old pair of 90s Jellies from when she was in middle/high school.

Carmy
06-26-2008, 07:17 AM
T-shirt and jeans sounds great, but . . .

I wonder if she has a pair of pyjamas around that she doesn't like and has never worn. Maybe a gift from an elderly aunt. Who knows, they could have Barbies or Snoopies printed on them.

wyoming_dreams
06-26-2008, 09:24 AM
What if, because of circumstances beyond her control, she shows up wearing an outfit she would never consider endangering and ends up having to wear something of his to protect her clothes?

Bayley
06-26-2008, 01:31 PM
The Spice Girls would be a pretty embarassing t shirt. If she's a former model, they'd probably be right around the right time, late nineties?

Flats seem like a really weird choice for painting. Barefoot, cheap flip flops, like the $5 plastic kind, or else old sneakers would be more expected.

Yeah, the spice girls is around the right time and that would be embarrasing. I can see that working, quite well.

The reason I though of flats is because this was on the spur of the moment, she didn't have time to go out and buy any new shoes. Also, she wears heels every day of the week and I thought it would be a step down. I can't see her wearing sneakers as I can't see her owning any. Same with cheap shoes, I can't see heer owning any.


I've known a couple of ex-models who were doing other things pretty successfully. They both tended to be casual and confident in their choice of clothes. Very matter of fact...they control the clothes, not the other way around.

I think she'd show up in clothes she doesn't care about, and wouldn't care what she looked like. Old jeans, old T, no fuss. She'd probably have some already "ruined" clothes just to wear for messy things like this.

She is pretty casual, but still stylish, she wears skinny jeans virtually every day (when she isn't working, obviously)

I can't see her having 'ruined' clothes, though you just gave me a really funny idea. It wouldn't work, but I just for some reason suddenly though of those boiler suits people wear to the scene of a crime. Never work, but it would be funny.


I was thinking something completely innapropriate. Maybe a pencil skirt and a flouncy top with heaps of frills hanging off it, to drag through the paint. Maybe she could team it with a tres chic beret! :)

I like the beret idea, very french and what she would believe was what an artist would wear.


Washed out jeans, a tight-fitting t-shirt (one she already owns) and a well-worn, unbuttoned denim shirt overtop. Sleeves rolled up.

If they're in his appartment, the shirt would be one of his, naturally. She'd wear it just to protect her t-shirt.

I liked the barefoot image too...

They aren't an item yet, so I doubt she'd borrow he's shirt. They went out on a triple date because she had to take somebody and in return he wanted to teach her how to paint. I don't think they're close enough for him to lend her clothes.

I like the barefoot idea, but outside in the city, is not a good idea. They might for the second day of painting, when they paint in his apartment, but she's take her shoes off in his apartment anyway.


Make it casual then, or perhaps jeans and a flannel shirt. Maybe some tennis shoes or something like that?

I could make it casual, but I want her to be embarrassed by the outfit and have him take the mickey out of her. It's a fundamental part of their relationship.


Same thoughts I had about the flats, too. I've been spending my weekends painting a friend's relative's house, and we always paint barefoot because we generally only have nicer shoes (and "nice" is relative on our budgets).

My thoughts: She wears the normal jeans and out-of-style t-shirt, but forgets about wearing crappy shoes (it's an easy thing to forget, really, especially if you haven't painted in awhile) and he makes fun of her for showing up in some nice heels or an expensive pair of flats. Easy fix though, she ends up painting barefoot. Or, on the flipside, she DOES have a pair of shoes she doesn't care if she ruins, but they're terrible stripper-ish stilettos from modeling days or maybe an old pair of 90s Jellies from when she was in middle/high school.

I think I'll scrap the flat idea.
However, painting barefoot is not a good idea in the middle of London.
I can see her having ugly shoes, perhaps that were given to her as a present by a colour-blind ex, and if they have heels then that would be quite unpratical, yet she could still think it's a good idea.


T-shirt and jeans sounds great, but . . .

I wonder if she has a pair of pyjamas around that she doesn't like and has never worn. Maybe a gift from an elderly aunt. Who knows, they could have Barbies or Snoopies printed on them.

I can't see her going out in public in her pyjamas.


What if, because of circumstances beyond her control, she shows up wearing an outfit she would never consider endangering and ends up having to wear something of his to protect her clothes?

Well, if she had clothes at the cleaners or in the wash, that would narrow down her choice of clothes, but she knows they're painting beforehand, so I can't see her wearing anything that she wouldn't be able to replace.


Thanks guys for all your help, I think we're getting somewhere. Ugly, high heeled shoes, or perhaps boots, but still something ugly and impractical. Old, faded jeans, a Spice girls T-shirt and a beret. Just the outfit for painting in. Thanks guys for all the suggestions, but if you do have any more suggestions, keep on posting.

Kitty Pryde
06-26-2008, 08:47 PM
The ultimate in hideous t-shirt fashion for ladies are those shirts with three cats on the front, and three cat butts on the back. they usually have a goofy slogan on them as well, like "Hanging loose in Nantucket." Cat butt t-shirt for sure.

My dad was on navy subs and they wear a one piece coverall called a "poopie suit," humorous name and pretty unflattering. she would have to have gotten it from a guy as there are no ladies who serve on subs.

katiemac
06-26-2008, 10:25 PM
I can see her having ugly shoes, perhaps that were given to her as a present by a colour-blind ex, and if they have heels then that would be quite unpratical, yet she could still think it's a good idea.

Yep, the heels would give her added height to help paint (esp. if they're painting a mural on wall). If they're nice shoes, she could be forced to wrap her feet/shoes up in plastic tarp bundles if she doesn't want to go barefoot. That would make her look fairly ridiculous.

Danger Jane
06-27-2008, 01:59 AM
I know I know I'm being annoying--but if she's an ex-model, is she obsessed with staying fit? And she might have a pair of sneakers or two lying around the house just to exercise in?

soleary
06-27-2008, 02:00 AM
Painter's pants and an old college t-shirt

HeronW
06-27-2008, 02:19 AM
She could wear some hideous orange tee that promotes something she modeled for and never got rid of--the promoted item was taken off the market for being contaminated.

Bayley
06-27-2008, 05:22 PM
The ultimate in hideous t-shirt fashion for ladies are those shirts with three cats on the front, and three cat butts on the back. they usually have a goofy slogan on them as well, like "Hanging loose in Nantucket." Cat butt t-shirt for sure.

My dad was on navy subs and they wear a one piece coverall called a "poopie suit," humorous name and pretty unflattering. she would have to have gotten it from a guy as there are no ladies who serve on subs.

I can't see her wearing stuff that terrible, it has to be realistic as to what she would wear. Considering she buys weekly fashion mags, it still has to be fashionable.


Yep, the heels would give her added height to help paint (esp. if they're painting a mural on wall). If they're nice shoes, she could be forced to wrap her feet/shoes up in plastic tarp bundles if she doesn't want to go barefoot. That would make her look fairly ridiculous.

I like the idea of her not wanting to go barefoot (because she's quite short) and having to wrap her shoes in.


I know I know I'm being annoying--but if she's an ex-model, is she obsessed with staying fit? And she might have a pair of sneakers or two lying around the house just to exercise in?

I haven't really gone into her excersise regime as I cant imagine it being interesting. I suppose she could have a pair of trainers, she could just decide to not to wear them. The reasoning behind her outfit isn't hugely important to the book.


Painter's pants and an old college t-shirt

Actually, in England (where the book is set), we don't really get the college T-shirts and I don't want to bring qualifications into it as the guy she is with doesn't have many.


She could wear some hideous orange tee that promotes something she modeled for and never got rid of--the promoted item was taken off the market for being contaminated.

I like the idea of a marketing T-shirt, I just have to think of something to market.

Sarpedon
06-27-2008, 05:40 PM
Considering she buys weekly fashion mags, it still has to be fashionable.


It has to be fashionable, but she has to be embarrassed by it? :o

Bayley
06-27-2008, 06:00 PM
It has to be fashionable, but she has to be embarrassed by it? :o

Exactly, it has to be something that a fashionable person would buy at some point. However, it has to now be an embarrassing thing to wear.

Like tie-dye was in in the 80s, yet now it isn't that fashionable to wear tie-dye (especially if the item in question was bought in the 80s). Although, I'm not saying tie-dye is embarrassing to wear, I'm just giving an example of a item that was once fashionable.

Kalyke
06-27-2008, 06:41 PM
Really embarrassing to paint in? Industrial one piece cleaning outfit made out of paper, over pink pedal pushers and a "Barbie" T-shirt? That would make me cry with embarrassment.

Lillyth
06-28-2008, 09:59 AM
Sorry, I know it's a bit of a minor matter, but it really nags me. In one scene a artist bribes the POV character into painting with him. He wears what he always wears, paint splattered jeans and a black T-shirt with paint on, again.

Anyway, my POV character is a ex-model who now works as a detective. Her wardrobe contains a few designer dresses from the past, lots of suits and blouses, skinny jeans, flares and lots of T-shirts with prints on. Her clothing isn't described in every scene, I think it's only described three times throught the whole book. Anyway, this scene it's important as I need him to take the mickey out of her outfit and they're painting in public, so I need her to be embarrassed by her outfit, as it's something she wouldn't wear in public.

It can't have paint on as she doesn't paint, it can't look perfect as she wouldn't want to ruin it. I'm thinking faded skinny jeans that were once black but are now grey, flats (she wouldn't wear trainers) and some sort of T-shirt. I want something arty, but she wouldn't wear an oversized blouse as that would probably look like she was wearing her ex's shirt. Any help is greatly appreciated as although I'm into fashion I don't have anything in my wardrobe that I would paint in.

PS, I mean painting canvas, not walls

Does she have kids? If so, some old maternity clothes might do the trick. (Something I painted in for a while).

But you need to ask yourself, if she would be embarrassed by wearing it in public, yet she knows she will be in public, why is she wearing it? Someone like that would most likely be willing to just ruin an outfit than wear one she would be embarrassed by.

If that doesn't work for you, just PM me and I can run down the litany of things I have painted in over the years...

She_wulf
06-28-2008, 11:07 AM
How about you have a pair of denim coveralls she got as a gag halloween costume? Or...she wore a set of auto mechanics coveralls for a photo shoot once. The one where the zipper in the front was broken and...

Gads. I'm a girl for Pete's sake and I can still come up with this...Makes me wonder if I'm writing male POV too much...

Amy

Bayley
06-28-2008, 01:14 PM
Really embarrassing to paint in? Industrial one piece cleaning outfit made out of paper, over pink pedal pushers and a "Barbie" T-shirt? That would make me cry with embarrassment.

I think that could seem slightly over-the-top and unrealistic.


Does she have kids? If so, some old maternity clothes might do the trick. (Something I painted in for a while).

But you need to ask yourself, if she would be embarrassed by wearing it in public, yet she knows she will be in public, why is she wearing it? Someone like that would most likely be willing to just ruin an outfit than wear one she would be embarrassed by.

If that doesn't work for you, just PM me and I can run down the litany of things I have painted in over the years...

No, she doesn't have any kids.

She doesn't know she is painting in public. She knows she's painting with an artist friend and she thinks they are painting in his apartment, where he normally paints. However, as a 'surprise' he wants them to do some painting ouside in natural light. She is wearing an awful outfit because she doesn't want to ruin any good ones, but when she hears they are going out in public she wants to get changed. The guy lies and says she looks fine and it doesn't matter what other people think of them.

Anyway, while they're outside he takes the mickey out of her outfit and she goes back inside and bumps into her ex. She didn't mind strangers seeing her look like an idiot that much, but her ex (who is a lawyer, rich, sucessful), is another matter.


How about you have a pair of denim coveralls she got as a gag halloween costume? Or...she wore a set of auto mechanics coveralls for a photo shoot once. The one where the zipper in the front was broken and...

Gads. I'm a girl for Pete's sake and I can still come up with this...Makes me wonder if I'm writing male POV too much...

Amy

She isn't into halloween, but I quite like the idea of something she wore to a fancy dress party. Although it might be a little over the top to get dressed as tinkerbell to paint.

Jo
06-28-2008, 02:30 PM
Just a few thoughts.

What time of year is it? Is it cold enough to wear a jacket or jumper (that she would've taken off in the apartment)? It would be uncomfortable to paint in cumbersome clothes, but if it's cold outside, she has to (so she doesn't catch a chill, or her skin doesn't dry out...). Like a scarf and gloves she refuses to remove.

Or maybe it's warmer, but she's dressed so she doesn't get paint on her. Anywhere. Long sleeves. Cotton gloves. (Oil paints need mineral turpentine to clean up--it can get messy, and almost impossible to clean under your nails.)

Or her top has one of those huge flowers attached to it (fashionable a few years ago) but she doesn't mind the actual top because the colour compliments her skin tone. (The flower ends up it's own paintbrush--or she yanks it off, ripping the top and exposing more than she bargained for.)

For some out-of-date fashions, think of the outfits worn in the TV show Sex and the City... (that's how I remembered the mega flowers).