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veinglory
04-11-2005, 07:58 PM
Hmm. Okay, weird question right of the bat. I know victorians could get gut-based condoms, they didn't prevent disease. My question is -- how reliable were they at preventing conception. What other methods did/could ladies use?

Medievalist
04-11-2005, 08:14 PM
Would you be interested in a bibliography? A short one <g>

veinglory
04-11-2005, 08:33 PM
Ill take what I can get -- but for an aside comment in a 1000 word story... perhaps you could provide an executive summary ?[begs] Specifically, how about some light poisoning to 'put him off'?

three seven
04-12-2005, 03:16 AM
http://www.victoriaspast.com/LifeofVictorianWoman/LifeofVictorianWoman.html

Gehanna
04-12-2005, 03:38 AM
OMG!! I just read the info in the link provided by three seven. I would have been shackled and shot if I lived during that era. There's no way a man would have wanted a woman like me in those days....I would have probably starved to death or something. Oy! thank goodness for changing times..and thank goodness for my husband who loves me the way that I am.

Gehanna

Celeste
04-15-2005, 09:47 AM
''The marriage contract into which the vast majority of women entered resembled an indenture agreement between master and servant...''

Quoted above is from the link provided by three seven. After reading that, I thought I was gonna' puke!


celeste

Ella
04-15-2005, 09:54 AM
:mad:I couldn't read the entire article. Now I'm cranky.

Sorry we're not much help yet.

Celeste
04-15-2005, 10:25 AM
:mad:I couldn't read the entire article. Now I'm cranky.

Sorry we're not much help yet.

Same here, Ella! Once I got to the part I quoted, I quit reading it! Lol...
I don't know what they did with the women that rebelled back then, but I sure as hell woulda' been one of them. :Soapbox:

veinglory
04-15-2005, 12:03 PM
Without any financial independence or legal rights to autonomy rebelling would quickly have rather degrading and fatal consequences, I should think. Strong women had a tendency to end up imprisoned in asylums.

Celeste
04-15-2005, 12:09 PM
Without any financial independence or legal rights to autonomy rebelling would quickly have rather degrading and fatal consequences, I should think. Strong women had a tendency to end up imprisoned in asylums.

LOL...I guess I'd of been locked up! http://pages.prodigy.net/rogerlori1/emoticons/jail.gif

soloset
04-15-2005, 12:20 PM
I dug out my copy of "Sex in History" and sent you a PM about the Victorian chapter.

It's amazing how little most of our bc methods have changed in the last hundred and fifty years or so, with the exception of chemical means.

three seven
04-17-2005, 03:34 AM
Personally, I practise oral contraception.

I ask girls to go to bed with me, and they say no.



Man, it's quiet in here tonight...

NealeSourna
05-18-2007, 12:38 AM
I believe in that time [1800s - 1970s] "good women" weren't to know about such things, like French Letters, or saying no, let alone use them. Husbands/men used them with "whores" not wives, and mostly only to prevent preg not disease; and this prevention to protect him not the outside woman, from future bastards looking for handouts from genetic dad.

Women were expected to be constantly preg, if that was God's Will and her husband's will, or lack of restraint. If she died she died. If he was an espec. doting husband, he might would introduce contra. for her life protection, but it wasn't expected or required of a husband; and considered somewhat suspect that he'd curtail his unlimited bare riding rights for a woman's protection, a woman who was fairly replaceable, like a horse. Unless, again, he was unusually found of the horse, uh, wife.

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Contraceptive collection comes to the Dittrick at Case
http://www.case.edu/artsci/dittrick/site2/news/contra.htm

newmod
05-18-2007, 01:41 AM
Ah, those were the days. Bloody progress ruins everything ;)

Tsu Dho Nimh
05-18-2007, 02:01 AM
Many more favored withdrawal, the rhythm method, or one of a wide range of contraceptive devices then available, including condoms, sponges, douches, and cervical caps.

http://www.cwrl.utexas.edu/~ulrich/femhist/birth_control.shtml has a good explanation

veinglory
05-18-2007, 02:04 AM
Wow, I asked this two years ago. Not that I ever finished that story...

scarletpeaches
05-18-2007, 02:07 AM
I thought they all had syphilis? Wasn't that an effective contraceptive? :D

Silver King
05-18-2007, 02:12 AM
I must say, NealeSourna has a dandy of a first post, one of the best I've ever read.

It seems he(?) joined seven months ago, but until now has kept silent. Come on, Neal, step away from the shadows where we can see more of you. :)

newmod
05-18-2007, 02:12 AM
Wow, I asked this two years ago. Not that I ever finished that story...

Wow! I never noticed that, somebody was digging around then, blimey.

The_Grand_Duchess
05-18-2007, 02:28 AM
Well lets just be thankful for the fun history lesson :)

PennStater
05-18-2007, 10:29 PM
I saw somewhere, on TV or in a museum, a condom from a previous century. It was actually made out of cotton and was really thick so that no sperm could get through. It looked like a shriveled up sock. Yep. That's about it.

scarletpeaches
05-18-2007, 10:33 PM
There was one called the 'geronimo' from the war years that was made of what looked like tyre-rubber.

You had to wash it out and use it over and over again. *puke*

Evaine
05-20-2007, 04:10 PM
Casanova used one - I don't think it was made out of cotton, though.