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Ralyks
04-11-2005, 04:45 PM
I wasn't sure where to post this, but I had to share. I got something worse than a rejection. I edit a small press literary magazine, and I occasionally publish special online issues in addition to the print issues. Access to online issues is free, so they are entirely a labor of love. I am always mortified if a mistake makes its way into the final product, as any editor would be. I had a typo in my latest online issue, some inverted letters, which my spell check, for some reason, did not catch, and which my eyes glanced over. I know it happens to everyone, even the most careful of editors, and I know I have seen errors in every published book I have ever read. So I try not to beat myself up too much. But here was the response I received via e-mail from the writer I published. I hardly need to beat myself up, when I have someone doing it for me. Expletives have been edited out with ***. Otherwise, it's word for word:





Mr Burris,

I had hoped that as a big poet, editor-in-chief, and supposed Christian, that on one of those levels and the fact there were only about ten pieces you would like maybe do a spell-check (like yr average JC student). I'm quite displeased that the word ABRAHAM prove beyond yr capabilities. Perhaps a quick summer class at the HS, working on their paper, you cd master the fine poetic art of faithfully reproducing the art that YOU are making $$$ from, you goofy fraud. Go f*** yrself with yr fake-*** religion. Learn to spell, b****.



I mentioned in an earlier thread how I have noticed a marked increase in rudeness in the past three years. In the past, I have received rude messages like this from authors I have rejected. This is a first from an author whose work I have accepted.



Any other editors out there take a beating? Has writer rudeness got you down? We spend hours putting together publications, and if we are small press editors, we very often spend our own money, earning little or no profit. How often do you ask yourself--Is it worth it? Should I just stop publishing? But there are kind authors too. I have even had some rejected authors write me to thank me for taking the time to comment. And I do love to publish this magazine. So I will plug on, despite the dejection.

Melina
04-11-2005, 05:07 PM
Whoa--that's insane! What a psycho! Sorry you had to deal with that...

Melina

dragonjax
04-11-2005, 05:09 PM
Any other editors out there take a beating? Has writer rudeness got you down? We spend hours putting together publications, and if we are small press editors, we very often spend our own money, earning little or no profit. How often do you ask yourself--Is it worth it? Should I just stop publishing? But there are kind authors too. I have even had some rejected authors write me to thank me for taking the time to comment. And I do love to publish this magazine. So I will plug on, despite the dejection.
Oh, Sky, I so feel your pain. When I was the copy editor for one company's internal magazine, I mistakenly changed one correct word for something else; I don't remember what it is at this point. But the writer of the article came storming over to me, demanding to know my rationale for the change. When I realized I had made a mistake, I apologized. She said, "From now on, if you want to change any of my words, you clear it with me!" Um, no, I clear it with the editor in chief, who had agreed with my change in the first place. Whatever.

Do plug on. Some people are cranky and have nothing better to do than demand perfection -- on their terms -- from everyone around them. These folks, in my humble opinion, are happiest when they have something to be angry about. Feel sorry for them, but don't eat the crow they're trying to shove down your throat. And perhaps add their pen names to a growing list of I'll Be Damned If I Ever Print Articles From These Ingrates Again names.

wurdwise
04-11-2005, 05:10 PM
My instant impression is that the response had nothing to do with you, it was about the person who wrote it. But it sure is rich material for a story!

Julie Worth
04-11-2005, 05:12 PM
Was there an April 1st involved somehow? And how did you ever get inverted letters? I thought that had gone out with typesetting. (ABRAHAW, maybe?)

Ralyks
04-11-2005, 05:35 PM
No, I received it today, so I don't think there was an April fools joke involved.



See, I've already made ANOTHER mistake. I meant transposed (not inverted) letters.



(Really, I'm usually a very good editor!)

Sheryl Nantus
04-11-2005, 05:43 PM
I'd choke him with kindness.

Send a nice letter pointing out that you didn't have to choose HIS poem to put in, and considering his response you'll have to take it into account if he submits again. And that you'll be sure to discuss his letter with OTHER publishers.

then point him here so we can lambast his tush - with that sort of attitude he's not going to go far as a professional writer, that's for sure. Imagine sending a note like that to The Atlantic Monthly or another large magazine.

kids.

*snorts*

Jamesaritchie
04-11-2005, 06:26 PM
I wasn't sure where to post this, but I had to share. I got something worse than a rejection. I edit a small press literary magazine, and I occasionally publish special online issues in addition to the print issues. Access to online issues is free, so they are entirely a labor of love. I am always mortified if a mistake makes its way into the final product, as any editor would be. I had a typo in my latest online issue, some inverted letters, which my spell check, for some reason, did not catch, and which my eyes glanced over. I know it happens to everyone, even the most careful of editors, and I know I have seen errors in every published book I have ever read. So I try not to beat myself up too much. But here was the response I received via e-mail from the writer I published. I hardly need to beat myself up, when I have someone doing it for me. Expletives have been edited out with ***. Otherwise, it's word for word:





Mr Burris,

I had hoped that as a big poet, editor-in-chief, and supposed Christian, that on one of those levels and the fact there were only about ten pieces you would like maybe do a spell-check (like yr average JC student). I'm quite displeased that the word ABRAHAM prove beyond yr capabilities. Perhaps a quick summer class at the HS, working on their paper, you cd master the fine poetic art of faithfully reproducing the art that YOU are making $$$ from, you goofy fraud. Go f*** yrself with yr fake-*** religion. Learn to spell, b****.



I mentioned in an earlier thread how I have noticed a marked increase in rudeness in the past three years. In the past, I have received rude messages like this from authors I have rejected. This is a first from an author whose work I have accepted.



Any other editors out there take a beating? Has writer rudeness got you down? We spend hours putting together publications, and if we are small press editors, we very often spend our own money, earning little or no profit. How often do you ask yourself--Is it worth it? Should I just stop publishing? But there are kind authors too. I have even had some rejected authors write me to thank me for taking the time to comment. And I do love to publish this magazine. So I will plug on, despite the dejection.

Such letter writers are their own worst enemy. No one needs to deal with such people. Just cross him off your list and ignore everythihng he sends from now on. We all make mistakes, but yours wasn't nearly as big as his.

Sassenach
04-11-2005, 06:40 PM
Don't get mad--he's clearly a jerk. The fact that he's a contributor is mind-boggling. I wouldn't respond, but I would let your fellow editors know about it, and to avoid this schmoe.

Rose
04-11-2005, 06:41 PM
Hang in there, skylarburris! Never forget there's a few nice writers out there, too, like, well, me for example. Here's a story:

Not long ago, an editor spelled MY NAME wrong and changed some correct-in-the-original grammar so that it was wrong in the printed version.* What did I do? I sent her an e-mail thanking her for publishing my piece, and pitched another idea. I got the assignment!

Hey, I'm just starting out and it's a low-paying market. The way I see it, the editor chose my story (hurray!) and provided an opportunity for me to publish. That warrants a thank you, not a rant filled with bile.

* I gave the magazine the benefit of the doubt, but after checking several sources and conferrring with some grammar gurus, it turned out I'd had it right.

veinglory
04-11-2005, 06:49 PM
The tone and content suggest a person who is not rational and his response is totally out of proportion. I would suggest cutting off contact with him completely.

aka eraser
04-11-2005, 08:09 PM
Ouch Skylar. You have my sympathies. It may help to remember the First Rule of Journalism: Consider the source.

The person is a poopiehead. Try to forget about it.

Ralyks
04-11-2005, 10:41 PM
Well, I (unwise, unwise) wrote the poet to apologize for the error and to inform him that it had been corrected. I received the following reply:



. . . . As far as editing stuff after it's been "published", that's a new approach we Californians have been spared the idiocy of. That was the worst bunch of **** I've ever been associated with and you can take yr stoopid "slightly used" calendar of the baby jesus and file it with yr other works of genius in yr outhouse. The poem, "only a typo", what a brilliant thing for an 'editor' to say! . . . . Your magazine sucks ***, dumbo. No need for reply. I have a great contempt for yr cheezy enterprise. In 3 months I'll write back & re-spell "stoopid", then we'll be even.



Nowhere in my response did I use the phrase "only a typo," which he places in quotation marks. I do not even have the remotest idea of what he means by my "slightly used calendar of the baby jesus." I guess Californians have also been spared the idiocy of spelling out the word "your" and placing commas inside quotation marks (in accordance with American usage). I wrote to tell him his poem was removed from my website at his request. I have now blocked his e-mail address, and so the drama comes to a final close. I should not even have replied the one time, as it is likely he has some serious mental and psychological problems.

Well, thank you for allowing me the opportunity to vent!

Ralyks
04-11-2005, 10:44 PM
Hang in there, skylarburris! Never forget there's a few nice writers out there, too, like, well, me for example. Here's a story:

Not long ago, an editor spelled MY NAME wrong and changed some correct-in-the-original grammar so that it was wrong in the printed version.* What did I do? I sent her an e-mail thanking her for publishing my piece, and pitched another idea. I got the assignment!

Hey, I'm just starting out and it's a low-paying market. The way I see it, the editor chose my story (hurray!) and provided an opportunity for me to publish. That warrants a thank you, not a rant filled with bile.

* I gave the magazine the benefit of the doubt, but after checking several sources and conferrring with some grammar gurus, it turned out I'd had it right.

I had an editor spell my name wrong once too. That bothers me a little more than a mistake in the poem itself. But I was nice about it. I pointed it out, but not in a mean way. (Hey, I know from experience that even with repeated and careful editing, something always slips through the cracks). A correction was printed in the next issue.

CaoPaux
04-11-2005, 10:58 PM
Yeesh. My sympathies in having to deal with crud like that. I echo all the above to put this jerk's name on a list and pass it around!

Poppy
04-11-2005, 11:07 PM
Skylar, I've always believed that when people "talk trash" about others or to others, it says more about them than it does the person they're talking about. This person's letters say way more about them than it does you. Just keep on keepin' on, and as others have already stated, remember we aren't all like that.

Sassenach
04-11-2005, 11:09 PM
Did I call him a schmoe?

That's an insult to the schmoes of the world. Ignore him.

If you're ever asked by another editor about him, be honest.

awatkins
04-11-2005, 11:14 PM
Gee, Skylar, sorry you've had to deal with such an igmo. :Hug2:

zeprosnepsid
04-12-2005, 12:11 AM
I'm appalled an author would talk that way to an editor! An editor that published his stuff at that! Maybe it's the 14 years of Catholic school I endured but I would never do something like that. It would be more like:

Dear Editor,
I'm sorry to take up some of your time, but i happened to notice that there was a misprinting (if this was online--), would you happen to mind changing it when you have the time? Thank you very much!

My editors can attest I always ask for changes this way =) Even when it's a typo! So someone as sheepish as me cannot possibly imagine that some one like who wrote you even exists!

But people like that get on my nerves -- he's never made a mistake in his life? Please!
But stick to it please Skylar. We need good editors. And I think more often than not you'll deal with writers like me who write to their editors like they are the queen of england. I'd be so worried about angering someone who would publish me!

Ralyks
04-12-2005, 01:02 AM
But stick to it please Skylar. We need good editors. And I think more often than not you'll deal with writers like me who write to their editors like they are the queen of england.

And more often than not, I do! (It's the "not" that creates the stir!)

SeanDSchaffer
04-12-2005, 01:24 AM
I wasn't sure where to post this, but I had to share. I got something worse than a rejection. I edit a small press literary magazine, and I occasionally publish special online issues in addition to the print issues. Access to online issues is free, so they are entirely a labor of love. I am always mortified if a mistake makes its way into the final product, as any editor would be. I had a typo in my latest online issue, some inverted letters, which my spell check, for some reason, did not catch, and which my eyes glanced over. I know it happens to everyone, even the most careful of editors, and I know I have seen errors in every published book I have ever read. So I try not to beat myself up too much. But here was the response I received via e-mail from the writer I published. I hardly need to beat myself up, when I have someone doing it for me. Expletives have been edited out with ***. Otherwise, it's word for word:





Mr Burris,

I had hoped that as a big poet, editor-in-chief, and supposed Christian, that on one of those levels and the fact there were only about ten pieces you would like maybe do a spell-check (like yr average JC student). I'm quite displeased that the word ABRAHAM prove beyond yr capabilities. Perhaps a quick summer class at the HS, working on their paper, you cd master the fine poetic art of faithfully reproducing the art that YOU are making $$$ from, you goofy fraud. Go f*** yrself with yr fake-*** religion. Learn to spell, b****.



I mentioned in an earlier thread how I have noticed a marked increase in rudeness in the past three years. In the past, I have received rude messages like this from authors I have rejected. This is a first from an author whose work I have accepted.



Any other editors out there take a beating? Has writer rudeness got you down? We spend hours putting together publications, and if we are small press editors, we very often spend our own money, earning little or no profit. How often do you ask yourself--Is it worth it? Should I just stop publishing? But there are kind authors too. I have even had some rejected authors write me to thank me for taking the time to comment. And I do love to publish this magazine. So I will plug on, despite the dejection.



Forgive me for asking, Skylarburris, but does this guy claim to be a Christian himself? I noticed he said 'and supposed Christian' concerning you in his letter, that's why I'm asking.

IMHO, the guy has a serious problem with attitude -- and language. If he's calls himself a Christian, he most certainly does not act like one. A lot of Christians have foul mouths, (Myself included), but we know enough not to use it when writing, say, on the Net or in a letter to an editor. That's probably one of the biggest mistakes anyone can make (Especially someone claiming to be a Christian), because it can ruin someone's career as well as reputation. There's a right place and a wrong place for the language as well as the attitude. The right place might be in his poetry. But toward an editor? That's definitely the wrong place.

You asked the question, though, 'Should I just stop publishing?' My personal answer: if it's a work and labor of love, like you've pointed out Skylar, no. Don't ever give up on what you love. There're always going to be people offended and taken aback by what you say or do -- many times you won't know it until you get some nasty letter from a disgruntled individual. But if you're doing this work because you love it, quitting is exactly what this person wants you to do. Don't give in to him; do deprive him of the satisfaction he seeks; keep plugging away like you said you would at the last.

In the end, you know it'll work out for your good.;)

Ella
04-12-2005, 01:29 AM
Well, I (unwise, unwise) wrote the poet to apologize for the error and to inform him that it had been corrected. I received the following reply:

That was the worst bunch of **** I've ever been associated with and you can take yr stoopid "slightly used" calendar of the baby jesus and file it with yr other works of genius in yr outhouse. The poem, "only a typo", what a brilliant thing for an 'editor' to say! . . . . Your magazine sucks ***, dumbo. No need for reply. I have a great contempt for yr cheezy enterprise. In 3 months I'll write back & re-spell "stoopid", then we'll be even.



Boy, does Poopiehead look stupid. He was the one who must have read the publication, took the time to submit, got accepted, and got published. And now he's trashing the publication? Puh-leeze. If he had such a problem with the content, he obviously should have done some better research, and only submitted to Poopieheads With No Love In Their Lives.

Vomaxx
04-12-2005, 01:46 AM
"... we Californians..."

Ah -- that explains it. :-)

Seriously, though, this man is not in his right mind and I would, as others have suggested, cut all contact with him. And if he sends any more submissions, check them for anthrax.

Anaparenna
04-12-2005, 02:15 AM
This doesn't sound at all rational. Something else must be going on that doesn't have anything to do with you or the typo. Maybe something medicinal or hallucinatory? :) Anyway, my suggestion would be to spend a bit of time for yourself going back and reading the nice responses of people you've rejected and published, and know that for every one nutjob, you've helped the careers/self-confidence of twice as many others.

Ralyks
04-12-2005, 02:47 AM
This doesn't sound at all rational. Something else must be going on that doesn't have anything to do with you or the typo. Maybe something medicinal or hallucinatory? :) Anyway, my suggestion would be to spend a bit of time for yourself going back and reading the nice responses of people you've rejected and published, and know that for every one nutjob, you've helped the careers/self-confidence of twice as many others.

Good advice. I do actually have a file of such letters. I'll re-read the one from a woman whose story I rejected--I told her that I didn't think it was the best fit for my magazine, but I suggested she send it to another (specific) magazine that I thought it was a good match for, and I gave her the contact information for that magazine. She wrote me a very nice letter a month later to tell me she had sent it to the suggested magazine and it had been accepted for publication!

In response to the previous post--no, he did not claim to be a Christian.

I think I am dealing with someone with a real problem, and I'm not helping him by replying. As so many have suggested, I have now cut off contact.

Thanks again to all who replied. I know it shouldn't get me down, but it did.

Sheryl Nantus
04-12-2005, 02:53 AM
it's hard not to take things personally - but look at the fact that he doesn't know YOU as a person and is obviously reacting to something that isn't there...

YOU are a good person and doing something you love and helping out others to fulfill their writing dreams - what the heck has *he* got to offer the world, based on that illegible rant?

{{{{{{{{{{{{{{hugs}}}}}}}}}}}}}

keep on keeping on, brother!

:kiss:

Liam Jackson
04-12-2005, 04:30 AM
For a carton of Kools, I can have Guido and the boys pour a pint of Vanilla Coke down the back of his Mac. :hat:

(Don't sweat the idiot)

SeanDSchaffer
04-12-2005, 04:52 AM
This doesn't sound at all rational. Something else must be going on that doesn't have anything to do with you or the typo. Maybe something medicinal or hallucinatory? :) Anyway, my suggestion would be to spend a bit of time for yourself going back and reading the nice responses of people you've rejected and published, and know that for every one nutjob, you've helped the careers/self-confidence of twice as many others.


You know? I hadn't thought about that. Which is strange of me because I'm a mental patient myself (Schizophrenic), living in a building filled with other mental patients. I know of at least one tenant in my building who suffers from Bi-Polar, and I've seen her be all nice and sweet one part of the day, then treat people like junk an hour later because she'll be so extremely down. I think Anaparenna might be right about this person's attitude being 'medicinal or hallucinatory.'

In which case I'd have to agree with what Anaparenna and LiamJackson both said concerning handling the situation. Read all the good things others have said concerning you and your work; and don't sweat what this particular individual had to say.

Oh, and before I forget, I'd like to thank you, Skylar, for clarifying to me that the person in question didn't specify what faith he had, if any. I guess I just assumed (a very bad habit of mine, I'll admit) that he was trying to claim he was a 'better Christian' or something like that, than you. So thanks for your clarification, I really do appreciate it.

I hope this all works out for you. Talk to you later.

maestrowork
04-12-2005, 04:54 AM
For a carton of Kools, I can have Guido and the boys pour a pint of Vanilla Coke down the back of his Mac. :hat:

(Don't sweat the idiot)

Vanilla Coke? Now that's nasty, Liam. So evil.


I agree with everyone here. That guy's a jerk and it's better if you ignore him completely. Sorry you had to read his message though.

alanna
04-12-2005, 05:07 AM
skylar-

i'm sorry that you had to deal with such a...hmm...loud-mouthed-newt. i agree with what people have been saying about something else going on, and as far as the Christian lines go- huh? I may be Pagan now, but I was raised Christian and have great respect for the religion. I have no respect at all, however, for those who use it as a shield to hide their crap behind- or worse, for those who use it in a derogatory way. He's done both. So, my advice is to dismiss him as the insignifigant annoying spec that he is and get on with what you love...which would be working with the other 95% of the writing community that loves what they do also.

-alanna

William Haskins
04-12-2005, 05:24 AM
Mr Burris,

I had hoped that as a big poet, editor-in-chief, and supposed Christian, that on one of those levels and the fact there were only about ten pieces you would like maybe do a spell-check (like yr average JC student). I'm quite displeased that the word ABRAHAM prove beyond yr capabilities. Perhaps a quick summer class at the HS, working on their paper, you cd master the fine poetic art of faithfully reproducing the art that YOU are making $$ from, you goofy fraud. Go f*** yrself with yr fake-*** religion. Learn to spell, b****.

hey, i was having a bad day. that's no reason for you to go spreading our personal emails all over the web..

alanna
04-12-2005, 05:30 AM
:roll: :Wha: :o


william- that was a joke, right?

William Haskins
04-12-2005, 05:40 AM
of course it was a joke... i wasn't really having a bad day at all.

maestrowork
04-12-2005, 05:42 AM
Yes you were... you were imagining something about Optimus and you got caught! ;)

SRHowen
04-12-2005, 05:44 AM
A year ago, at least, we (Wild Child Publishing then only Wild Child Magazine) recieved a submission of a horror story. We accepted it and sent out edtis, the author said do what you want to it--I like it the way it is.

Sigh

The story did have a very good theme and plot so I did a rewrite, almost a ghost write of it. Once online someone pointed out an error--the author posted on our BB that it wasn't her mistake that we had trashed her story without her permission.

She then went on a rampage against any editor that she could get e-mail through to.

<shakes head> I get these a lot, and I am always amazed when they misspell, and use IM speak in their e-mails.

They are not worth the time and trouble of a return e-mail.

Shawn

Ella
04-12-2005, 08:22 AM
If Skylar is willing, it would be fun to see the original reply that set this guy off.

I would hesitate to give Poopiehead some sort of mental condition as an excuse for his rudeness. In a new business I've recently taken on, I was warned about the type of customer and their 'behaviour', and I didn't believe it, preferring to believe in the greater good in people. Boy, was I wrong. People can expect the world then fly off the handle when they only get a continent or two. ;)

sgtsdaughter
04-12-2005, 08:40 AM
i've had my name misspelled, my writing plagued with typos, and so on . . . but i would never dream of sending such a nasty response to human error. mainly, i fear bad charma. that stuff comes back at ya . . . so i would chalk this up to some dude posing as a dark and mysterious writer, trying to sound superior, when in reality--he's probally defunct and this is his first publication in ions or his first ever. either way, he's trying to sound like something he's not, and i doubt that many editors will put up with him.

A.

Patricia
04-12-2005, 10:22 AM
. I guess Californians have also been spared the idiocy of spelling out the word "your" and placing commas inside quotation marks (in accordance with American usage).

Mr. Burris,

On behalf of the State of California, I apologize for that insane rant from whomever. Believe me; most Californians have more class than to address an editor in such a way.

Respectfully,

Ann

Humourwriter
04-12-2005, 03:42 PM
I know how you feel. Stings like hell, doesn't it? But I certainly wouldn't give up because a) you'll always face some idiot like this who can't create a damned thing themselves and so goes out of their way to put anyone down who can, and b) if you give up, he wins. And you can't let that happen.

I was reading about a goof-up Dave Barry made when he was still a reporter instead of a humour columnist. A picture ran with his story showing some geese, and he mistakenly called them ducks (or the other way around; I can't remember).

Anyway, he got over 400 letters (not emails, letters!) about that mistake. And from what I remember, some of them were just as abusive as the one you got.

I guess what I'm saying is that we all mistakes, and there will always be people just waiting to pounce on them. We just have to keep remembering that we're better than they are, because we're trying to create something instead of destroy it.


Bill.

Kudra
04-12-2005, 05:40 PM
This guy is getting so wound up over one silly typo (which was corrected, btw)?

I've had editors spell my name wrong and not correct it even after eight requests, introduce errors in titles ("tickled" became "tickeld") and first sentences (Charlie's "Angles" anyone?) and grammatically wreck my sentences apart. But I still have stellar relationships with most of them. That's because I didn't send e-mails like this one.

The guy's a fool. He's single-handedly wrecking his own career. Beauty of it is, he won't even know it until it's too late.

Ralyks
04-12-2005, 07:36 PM
Oh, and before I forget, I'd like to thank you, Skylar, for clarifying to me that the person in question didn't specify what faith he had, if any. I guess I just assumed (a very bad habit of mine, I'll admit) that he was trying to claim he was a 'better Christian' or something like that, than you. So thanks for your clarification, I really do appreciate it.

Well, I had assumed it too, orginally, based on the fact that (1) his poem was about Christ's crucifixion and (2) he called me a "supposed Christian," which is not usually a term bandied about by non-Christians, but, as you say, by Christians who think their standards of Christianity are better than some other Christian's standards of Christianity. But, his second e-mail also contained the statement that "I never said I was a Christian" (one of the ellipses).

Ralyks
04-12-2005, 07:39 PM
Mr. Burris,

On behalf of the State of California, I apologize for that insane rant from whomever. Believe me; most Californians have more class than to address an editor in such a way.

Respectfully,

Ann

Don't worry, I won't hold it against all Californians. I just thought that particularly funny, "at least we Californians..." That and the weird, inexplicable comment about slighty used baby jesus calendars came out of left field.

aboyd
04-13-2005, 06:09 AM
Skylar,

Back when I was an editor, I had a guy who sent me a few poems with some pretty bad typos. I could have salvaged the poems if I wanted to publish them, but they really weren't worth the effort. On my rejection letter, I simply added one comment, "more proofreading needed."

The guy came completely unhinged, and wrote back a long rant about how I was full of crap and my crap publication would never amount to anything without him. He really let me have it. He then proceeded to spell his own name wrong in his signature (I knew this because I still had his first cover letter, and I could see that the two had different spellings).

Bottom line? Some people just aren't worth it. Either they are idiots, or they don't value their own work (so why should you?), or they are mentally unstable. The best thing, especially for people who have your home address, is to just walk away. Never respond to an attack, it only provokes a second attack.

maestrowork
04-13-2005, 07:34 AM
Make sure you tape the letters to the bottom of your toilet bowl...

Where they belong.

Ralyks
04-13-2005, 05:26 PM
hey, i was having a bad day. that's no reason for you to go spreading our personal emails all over the web..


I just wanted to share the love.

mdmkay
04-14-2005, 12:50 AM
My advice would be take a step back and give a huge sigh of relief that you don't have to deal with this weirdo in person then let it go. I wouldn't worry to much about an error when it is obvious that this person is a brick shy of a load. It amazes me when someone can carry on like this and still say they are a christian. I'm sure it didn't escape your notice how many spelling errors were in his diatribe. If it weren't for the fact that it would totally go over his head and encourage him to email more of his poison notes I would have sent him back his email with all his mistakes edited in red.

If there weren't people like you in the world there would be no reason for people like me to feel so superior.

alanna
04-14-2005, 12:54 AM
[QUOTE=mdmkay]If it weren't for the fact that it would totally go over her head and encourage her to email more of her poison notes I would have sent her back her email with all her mistakes edited in red. [QUOTE]

ooh, i like that one.

priceless1
04-16-2005, 03:23 AM
I'm appalled an author would talk that way to an editor!
It happens far more than anyone would realize, Zepro, it's very distastful. Writing rejection letters is my least favorite job of all, and I try to put it off for as long as my conscience will allow. With most rejections, I include a fairly detailed critique of why I'm rejecting their submission. Many have written back thanking me for my willingness to give feedback.

On the flip side, I've had some fire back some fairly eye-popping utterances. I've been told I didn't "get them," I was too stupid, or blind. Hardly a professional thing for an would-be author to do. I understand that they're hurt, but I shudder to think how they'll react with their first bad PW review.

I usually email them back and apologize for mistaking them for a professional, and move on.

arrowqueen
04-16-2005, 03:33 AM
Priceless, priceless!

oneidii
04-19-2005, 01:22 PM
Skylarburris, You had only the most polite responses, PLUS you published his poem! Don't let that monster get to you, you did the right thing. He will shoot himself in the foot (again) soon enough with someone else, at least it won't be you now.

Don't beat yourself up. Feel better. Yr oneidii

Ralyks
04-19-2005, 08:36 PM
I usually email them back and apologize for mistaking them for a professional, and move on.

Thank you. I will keep that in mind for the future. A perfect and pithy response.

Susie
04-23-2005, 02:54 AM
Hi, Skylarburris, I'm sure sorry you got such a horrible and unwarranted email. Please don't let that throw you. I've gotten a few un-fan letters myself, one was from a jail - it was really scary, but we move on. Don't ever let anyone keep you from what you love to do. If you let the writers here know what literary magazine you edit, l bet they would be glad to send in poems to you and sure none would send you that kind of horrid email!

Warm regards, Susie:)