New Colorado Bill proposes unisex bathrooms to prevent discrimination

Not that I disagree, but don't most schools have separate bathrooms for adults vs students? For a wide variety of reasons? The ones I went to did.

This is a BAD idea for schools. Dear god. The public bathroom was a war zone in the boys bathroom when I went to school. I was so skittish about going "number 2" at school that I would hold it in all day long and wait until I got home simply because I didn't want to be sitting there and have wet paper towels flying over the stall door at me.

Knowing that GIRLS are going to be in there? Who knows what the heck these boys will do.

Yeah but the idiots proposing this law don't care about whether this opens the door for pedophiles, as long as some man who decided he didn't like his penis doesn't have his/her/whatever feelings hurt.

And this is the country millions of soldiers have died for.

Well, why can't they have "Men" "Women" and "Other"??

I mean a lot of public places, like malls, have Men Women and Family.

Why make them ALL unisex? Why not just make one unisex restroom available. I mean how many freakin transgendered individuals are there in society?

Is this really that big a problem that they have to inconvenience everyone in society to create equity for a few?

Sarpedon said:

Not that I disagree, but don't most schools have separate bathrooms for adults vs students? For a wide variety of reasons? The ones I went to did.

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I've never seen it done.

On the plus side, the drug dealers will only need one location in a school.

ACEnders said:

And can you imagine being a woman in a locker room? I cannot imagine trying to change while looking around wondering when the man eyeing me in the corner is going to reach out and grab my ass...or worse.

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Well, we go to the Y and my sons and I use the Family Men's locker room, which means while I'm changing I feel awkward doing it in front of the guy who brought in his 8-year-old daughter.

Shadow_Ferret said:

Well, why can't they have "Men" "Women" and "Other"??

Good suggestion!

Is this really that big a problem that they have to inconvenience everyone in society to create equality for a few?

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Excellent question! I guess they are confusing "equal" with "exactly the same" . I think an apple is a fruit and and orange is a fruit, so in that way they are equal, but obviously very different.

I hope cooler "heads" prevail on this one!

Shadow_Ferret said:

Well, we go to the Y and my sons and I use the Family Men's locker room, which means while I'm changing I feel awkward doing it in front of the guy who brought in his 8-year-old daughter.

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While I sympathise with that, bear in mind for some dads there may not be much of an option. I think at 8 the young lady in question could probably use the women's locker-room by herself... but maybe not. With all the horror stories out there about kids being taken and all that, I'd just as soon chaperone my daughter (who, granted, is only 4 right now) into a "Family" changing room than send her off by herself.

Not every dad has a mom available to handle those "girl" issues, and society doesn't provide us with a lot of options, either.

put troughs in the halls and be done with it.

How strange. Perhaps you went to school at a different time.

I do architecture work on public schools. I don't recall seeing one that didn't have age segregated bathrooms. Let me check my plans...judging from the six or so school plans I have available at the moment, age segregated washrooms are de riguer, except for the oldest ones. I'm pretty sure that they are segregated in any school younger than 30 years.

If such a law were passed, I think it would be easy to say that adults could no longer use the student's bathrooms.

However, I think this is a foolish law. It is easy to build separate Unisex bathrooms, and there are many reasons to do so, not just for the transgendered. Special education students who need assistance come to mind as beneficiaries to this system.

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While I sympathise with that, bear in mind for some dads there may not be much of an option. I think at 8 the young lady in question could probably use the women's locker-room by herself... but maybe not. With all the horror stories out there about kids being taken and all that, I'd just as soon chaperone my daughter (who, granted, is only 4 right now) into a "Family" changing room than send her off by herself.

Not every dad has a mom available to handle those "girl" issues, and society doesn't provide us with a lot of options, either.

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I understand the reasoning behind it. And I wasn't saying they should eliminate it. I was just saying I felt uncomfortable.

And I think they have to be 10, maybe 12, to be unchaperoned at the Y.

Note to self: next sex talk must include the information that gender is no longer as clear cut as it seems. Cue Lola and explain the lyrics carefully and thoroughly.

They did it in the Ally

It seemed to work fine on Ally McBeal - sort-of.

http://www.slate.com/id/3307/

If everyones in stalls, I see no real issue here.

When I need to go, just a little privacy so as to not scare the old ladies and little kids with a major python, and I'm good to go - literally.

And the hits keep on coming...

robeiae said:

On the plus side, the drug dealers will only need one location in a school.

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And that's how to find the positive situation here!

I think a better source is needed for this "news" The site quoted has a very narrow agenda and is blatantly anti-homosexual/transgender. Here's the bill itself.
(http://www.leg.state.co.us/CLICS/CL...6F4460E872573F5005D0148?Open&file=200_enr.pdf)

Just like a hall monitor...

ACEnders said:

I loved Ally McBeal! And I see what you're saying. so long as everyone stays behind those stall doors, everyone's okay. However, locker rooms? Now we're all going to have to change in little stalls so that men don't watch us? And teenage boys in the bathroom with teenage girls? Old nasty men in the bathroom with little girls? You think this is not an issue?

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Maybe we could install camera's to keep an eye on everyone. Just to make sure we all behave approriately.

Here's where it all started...

http://www.pbs.org/pov/pov2003/georgiegirl/resources_04_biber.html

Line up for your change today!

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Maybe we could install camera's to keep an eye on everyone. Just to make sure we all behave approriately.

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Yeah, but then you're gonna have the creepy looking janitor watching the movies. Who wants that?

Why are we jumping to the conclusion that signing this bill means all public restrooms in Colorado have to be unisex and follow that to worst possible outcome? Not allowing discrimination based on sexual orientation doesn't exactly mean that - but it's apparent that in order to get people to cry out against SB200 that worst case scenario is being put forward.

Well, thanks to Dawno for the real information. There's really nothing in that act to object to, except for the usual exemption for religious institutions.

Eunich are us...

James81 said:

Yeah, but then you're gonna have the creepy looking janitor watching the movies. Who wants that?

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Maybe there is some segment of our populate that can be trusted because of a pre-exsiting condition that renders them 'sexless?'

Dawno said:

Why are we jumping to the conclusion that signing this bill means all public restrooms in Colorado have to be unisex and follow that to worst possible outcome? Not allowing discrimination based on sexual orientation doesn't exactly mean that - but it's apparent that in order to get people to cry out against SB200 that worst case scenario is being put forward.

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If I recall correctly, this argument was also used against the Equal Rights Amendment back in the 70s.