Is it "Gloom and Doom" or "Doom and Gloom"?

Doom & gloom.

Doom and gloom is probably the way most people say it, I believe . . . but I've never really thought about it.

Doom and Gloom

Moles and Trolls

Tom and Jerry.

I think it's "Doom and gloom" because the g doesnt blend with the d in and. Sounds better.

It's "peanut butter and jelly" and not the other way because you have to spread the peanut butter first. Ever try spreading pb on top of jelly?

We use doom and gloom down here.

I say Doom and Gloom but I wrote either way. I don't think it really matters.

I've always heard "Gloom and Doom."

Alphabetically doom & gloom: if you're doomed, then you'll be gloomy, i.e. depressed. If you're gloomy, it doesn't necessarily follow that you are doomed, just lacking chocolate :}

I would go with Cause and Effect as the organizing force. Doom causes Gloom. I really don't think writing it the other way will raise many eyebrows though.

I honestly have never heard "gloom and doom." It actually hurts my ears.

Matera the Mad said:

I think it's "Doom and gloom" because the g doesnt blend with the d in and. Sounds better.

It's "peanut butter and jelly" and not the other way because you have to spread the peanut butter first. Ever try spreading pb on top of jelly?

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I like Gloom and Doom because the Ds roll together. My vote put it back at a tie.

My first instinct is to say gloom and doom. Can you give us your sentence as an example?

I say 'doom and gloom' myself, but that acutally makes me like 'gloom and doom' better because it breaks the flow of the writing up and is almost discordant--kind of, say, doomy and even gloomy.

Gloom, doom and spittoon.

maestrowork said:

I honestly have never heard "gloom and doom." It actually hurts my ears.

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agreed.

It is doom and gloom

also - fric and frac

I've always heard doom and gloom. But a better option is to stay away from cliches, if you can.

What difference does it makes? It depends all on what you're tying to accomplish or the personality of the story which could set it apart from others.

Doom and gloom roll better, to my tongue.

Funny, if I think about this long enough ("Doom and gloom . . . gloom and doom . . . doom and gloom . . . ") I forget which way I ordinarily say it, which is "doom and gloom".

Okay. I voted the both option. But now for a little googling:

"Doom and Gloom": 1 590 000 hits
"Gloom and Doom": 431 000 hits

The idioms section in the free online dictionary, knows both:

doom and gloom

gloom and doom

Interestingly, the "doom and gloom" quote comes from the Cambridge International Dictionary of Idioms, while the "gloom and doom" quote comes from the Cambridge Dictionary of American Idioms.

So there. I don't mind either way, though I do think that "doom and gloom" sounds better, prosodically. This is pure taste.