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nancy sv
05-17-2008, 06:02 AM
I'm not sure what to do here... My son (age 10) was sick most of last week - I think he missed three days of school last week. It was very definitely a cold with the stuffy nose and all that so we just let it run its course. Over the weekend he started feeling a bit better and we thought it was done.

But then last night he woke up in the middle of night and puked all over. This morning he said he felt better, so he went to school - but the nurse called at noon saying he was puking again. He took a four-hour nap this afternoon and woke up puking once again.

Part of me says this isn't related to his cold/flu from last week since he was better for four days, but another part of me says it's related and it's been going on too long - time to get him to the doc.

What do you think? It's now Friday evening so we would have to take him to an urgent care center if we took him.

So - take him in tonight? Go to the urgent care center tomorrow? Wait until Monday and if he's still sick then take him in? What do you think the chances are that the two are related?

Jersey Chick
05-17-2008, 06:06 AM
Can he hold anything down? At least water?

Fenika
05-17-2008, 06:06 AM
Vomiting = bad. Sometimes it = very very bad.

That's worth an urgent care fee to find out. And don't let them poo-poo you and send you home. Be your kid's advocate. Bloodwork is prolly a minimum. Fluids are important too.

Good luck.

Fenika
05-17-2008, 06:07 AM
From medline plus: Most of the time, nausea and vomiting do not require urgent medical attention. However, if the symptoms continue for days, they are severe, or you cannot keep down any food or fluids, you may have a more serious condition.
Dehydration (http://www.nlm.nih.gov/medlineplus/ency/article/000982.htm) is the main concern with most vomiting. How fast you become dehydrated depends on your size, frequency of vomiting, and whether you also have diarrhea (http://www.nlm.nih.gov/medlineplus/ency/article/003126.htm).

nancy sv
05-17-2008, 06:10 AM
My other son is on his way to the store to buy some Sprite right now - Davy thinks he may be able to keep Sprite down. We'll try that and see how long it lasts.

This is very strange - this son is NEVER sick! I don't think he ever missed a day of school before ever. And now in 4th grade he's missed about 10 or so.

Fenika
05-17-2008, 06:13 AM
I'm pretty sure you want to try plain water at this point. Sprite would be good if he felt nauseous but hadn't vomited tons already. Either way, go with the water first. I'll find a reference... one sec

Fenika
05-17-2008, 06:16 AM
Looks like Sprite would be acceptable:

When trying to control nausea:

* Drink clear or ice-cold drinks.
* Eat light, bland foods (such as saltine crackers or plain bread).
* Avoid fried, greasy, or sweet foods.
* Eat slowly and eat smaller, more frequent meals.
* Do not mix hot and cold foods.
* Drink beverages slowly.
* Avoid activity after eating.
* Avoid brushing your teeth after eating.
* Choose foods from all the food groups as you can tolerate them to get adequate nutrition.

nancy sv
05-17-2008, 06:16 AM
OK - he's drinking some water now. We'll see how long it stays down.

Fenika
05-17-2008, 06:16 AM
Just trying to help:

Treatment for vomiting (regardless of age or cause) includes drinking gradually larger amounts of clear liquids, avoiding solid food until the vomiting episode has passed, resting and temporarily discontinuing all oral medications, which can irritate the stomach and make vomiting worse.

Fenika
05-17-2008, 06:17 AM
Excellent. Oh and Gatorade is a good choice. Slowly.

Joycecwilliams
05-17-2008, 06:20 AM
I'm not sure what to do here... My son (age 10) was sick most of last week - I think he missed three days of school last week. It was very definitely a cold with the stuffy nose and all that so we just let it run its course. Over the weekend he started feeling a bit better and we thought it was done.

But then last night he woke up in the middle of night and puked all over. This morning he said he felt better, so he went to school - but the nurse called at noon saying he was puking again. He took a four-hour nap this afternoon and woke up puking once again.

Part of me says this isn't related to his cold/flu from last week since he was better for four days, but another part of me says it's related and it's been going on too long - time to get him to the doc.

What do you think? It's now Friday evening so we would have to take him to an urgent care center if we took him.

So - take him in tonight? Go to the urgent care center tomorrow? Wait until Monday and if he's still sick then take him in? What do you think the chances are that the two are related?

I think the chances are very likely related...
I have raised 4 kids... and am raising my grandchildren... now...

My grandson had something like that earlier this year...
He was sick... then better, sent him to school then they sent him home... it lasted 2 1/2 weeks...

You didn't say how your son was feeling... Does he have a temp?
I would watch the temp... if it gets high take him in... if not make sure he is comfortable and don't give him anything to eat or drink after he has puked for at least 2 hours and then give him water...

Any rashes and/or fever take him in... other.... just make sure he is as comfortable as he can be...

nancy sv
05-17-2008, 06:21 AM
You're wonderful - thanks for the help. He's at least sitting up now watching a movie - that's a big improvement over all afternoon.

Jersey Chick
05-17-2008, 06:22 AM
This happens to my mom all the time - she gets any sort of bug, it runs its course, and then her stomach goes all loopy for a few days. My daughter's the same way.

Just make sure he doesn't have any abdominal pain - either widespread or localized. Especially if he is running a fever.

nancy sv
05-17-2008, 06:23 AM
Thanks Joyce. He doesn't have a fever at all - that makes me think he might have gotten some food poisoning somehow. I think I've decided I will not take him in tonight, but may do so tomorrow depending on how he's feeling at that time.

I was really sick a month or so ago - sicker than a dog for nearly three weeks. I wonder if he has what I had, but is exhibiting slightly different symptoms.

Fenika
05-17-2008, 06:24 AM
BTW, is there any difference in charges between urgent care on a Friday night and waiting til Saturday? If your kid thinks he might sleep it off again, and is okay now, then I could see wanting to wait. Otherwise you might just be putting off the inevitable.

So yeah, stats on your kid if you want:
-Temperature?
-Dehydrated?
-Headache?
-Holding down that water?

:)

Fenika
05-17-2008, 06:25 AM
Oh, nvm, I posted too slow. And you answered my other question as to his up and about status...

nancy sv
05-17-2008, 06:26 AM
So far, so good. the water has stayed down about 10 minutes or so. He's watching a movie with a bucket on his lap - but at least he's sitting up.

Fenika
05-17-2008, 06:30 AM
Ah yes, the sit-by-the-bucket approach. I hope he sleeps well and recovers quickly.

Cheers,
Christina

Mandy-Jane
05-17-2008, 06:36 AM
Hope he gets well soon Nancy. Nothing worse than a sick child.

Joycecwilliams
05-17-2008, 06:38 AM
You're wonderful - thanks for the help. He's at least sitting up now watching a movie - that's a big improvement over all afternoon.

You are most welcome. I never take my kids to the doctor.. unless it's an emergency...

1. High Fever

2. Pain in chest

3. Unknown rash

4. Severe Cut

5. Sore thoat that doesn't go away.

6. Bad fall... or something similar...

I've been having some anxiety myself this weekend... two of my dogs have canine influenza which is bad... but one of my dogs already has respirtory problems... Yesterday she could not walk without coughing and gagging.. I had to carry her outside to go to the bathroom... She is better tonight...

Jersey Chick
05-17-2008, 06:41 AM
Ahh... the bucket... **shudders**

I hope your son's feeling better real soon. Almost nothing worse than the heaves.

Cthulhu
05-17-2008, 06:44 AM
Speaking as a tried-and-true survivor of the Childhood Sickness Conspiracy, I would say that unless your son is still sick in another day or two (not just "residually sick", either, legitimately puking type sick), he'll be fine just recuperating at home on the couch.

My mom was like Joyce, so I spent many sick days lying on the couch with a bucket on the floor. It's good practice for your son to not overreact with just a minor stomach bug, either, which this sounds like. With the weather warming up, now, it definitely seems to be sickness season. I woke up out of nowhere with an absolutely terrible cold this morning, and I know a ton of people in my school who have something similar.

Just keep an eye on him and his fever as he seems to be getting better. If he's keeping water down for quite a while, I'd suggest giving him some toast with cinnamon and sugar and butter. It's my personal favorite post-sickness introduction to food, and with a minor amount of creaminess (with the butter and all), it's a good test for if there's still anything screwing around in my gut.

nancy sv
05-17-2008, 06:49 AM
I think I'm the world's biggest "don't-go-to-the-doctor-unless-it's-life-or-death" person so never go in unless it's pretty bad. That being said, we are taking off in three weeks to ride our bikes from Alaska to ARgentina, so I don't want to sit on this for too long. If he needs help, it's better to get it earlier rather than later at this point!

The last time this kid went to the doctor was while we were cycling in Mexico last year and he nearly broke his wrist - wore a cast for two weeks that time. The time before he went over his handlebars and injured his pancreas - ended up in the hospital for four days. Hope we don't have to go again...

Joycecwilliams
05-17-2008, 06:50 AM
Speaking as a tried-and-true survivor of the Childhood Sickness Conspiracy, I would say that unless your son is still sick in another day or two (not just "residually sick", either, legitimately puking type sick), he'll be fine just recuperating at home on the couch.

My mom was like Joyce, so I spent many sick days lying on the couch with a bucket on the floor. It's good practice for your son to not overreact with just a minor stomach bug, either, which this sounds like. With the weather warming up, now, it definitely seems to be sickness season. I woke up out of nowhere with an absolutely terrible cold this morning, and I know a ton of people in my school who have something similar.

Just keep an eye on him and his fever as he seems to be getting better. If he's keeping water down for quite a while, I'd suggest giving him some toast with cinnamon and sugar and butter. It's my personal favorite post-sickness introduction to food, and with a minor amount of creaminess (with the butter and all), it's a good test for if there's still anything screwing around in my gut.

Here is a scary thought. Maybe I am your mom... :)

Cthulhu
05-17-2008, 06:54 AM
Here is a scary thought. Maybe I am your mom... :)
It wouldn't surprise me. She/you is/are everywhere!

Jersey Chick
05-17-2008, 06:57 AM
My mom was the same way - there's a running joke in our family about how we could be bleeding from the eyes and my mother's standard reply was, "We'll see how it is in the morning."

Now, I power through all kinds of ailments, while my husband (who was **coughcough** a spoiled little man by his mom) acts like the world's going to end because he's got the sniffles....

Soccer Mom
05-17-2008, 07:59 AM
That's me. My hubby thinks everyone should go to the doctor for hangnails. We balance each other out.

benbradley
05-17-2008, 08:07 AM
Yes, water only tonight. I wrote somewhere on AW about when I gave blood without having anything to eat earlier in the day - I passed out for a minute, then every time they had me drink some juice, I threw up. I knew my stomach could ONLY handle water at the time, but I couldn't get the message across to them.

nancy sv
05-17-2008, 08:10 AM
He's been sitting up watching a movie for a couple hours now and seems to be doing OK. He drank a small cup of water and another small cup of Fresca. so far it's staying down. Hopefully we'll make it through the night.

Jersey Chick
05-17-2008, 08:18 AM
That's good. You mainly want to make sure he doesn't dehydrate. Extra hugs that you all get a good night's sleep. :Hug2:

Maryn
05-17-2008, 06:25 PM
I'm late arriving, but if he's still under the weather...

Gastroenteritis, or any undiagnosed gastrointestinal illness, usually responds to the BRAT treatment, which is safe for little children, pregnant women, the frail elderly, nursing moms, and everybody else.

If youíve got gastroenteritis, you may feel light-headed and dizzy when you stand, because it drops your blood pressure. (Mine was 90/50 during my last bout.) You may have severe body aches, bones and muscles both, and a terrible headache, plus a fever with chills, nausea, vomiting, and diarrhea. This is pretty awful, and often thereís no treatment but making you comfortable.

Start with whatever fever-and-pain medication you prefer, whether itís ibuprofen (Motrin, Advil), aspirin, or Tylenol. Donít exceed the recommended dose per time or over a 24-hour period. (And don't give a child aspirin.)

Next up, hydrate. This means you drink clear liquids, any kind except alcohol, a lot. Tea is nice. So is ice water, flavored water, Gatorade (clear ones only), 7-Up, and especially ginger ale, which settles nausea quite well. (If bubbles bother you, pour your carbonated beverage from one glass to another and back again a few times.) Let me repeat: ginger ale can stop nausea completely.

Since he's keeping liquids down at last report, if he feels hunger it's the BRAT diet.

B for bananas
R for cooked rice, plain pasta, soda crackers, toast and other simple white-flour carbohydrates
A for applesauce and Popsicles
T for hot tea or other clear liquids like bouillon, chicken noodle soup, clear juices, etc.

Avoid all dairy products; all fats and oils (butter, mayonnaise, peanut butter); fiber like whole grains, fruits, and vegetables; and spices except for salt to taste. This gets boring but will help calm the digestive tract, no matter which end of it is in greater distress.

Most people feel better in 3-5 days, although some take 5-7. Kids recover the fastest, usually, so he might be himself by Sunday evening.

Maryn, been there many times

nancy sv
05-17-2008, 06:40 PM
He seems to be OK now!! Before I woke up he ate a bagel and is fine - he even thinks he's going to be up for playing in his soccer game in 2 hours (I'm not convinced of that one, but we'll see...) I hope whatever this is is now GONE FOR GOOD!!!

Soccer Mom
05-18-2008, 12:07 AM
Glad he's better, Nancy.

Maryn
05-18-2008, 01:37 AM
Oh, that's a relief. Even if soccer seems like rushing things, clearly he's feeling much, much better. Whew!

Maryn, glad in his behalf--and yours!

nancy sv
05-18-2008, 03:34 AM
He tried to play soccer, but mostly he just stood around on the field and watched his teammates play - but at least he was up and about. I felt so sad though - he had been asking if we could take cupcakes when it was our turn to take snacks. So today we went down and bought cupcakes for the whole team and Davy was soooo excited! AFter the game, I passed them out and he took one lick of the frosting and almost threw up. Daddy ended up eating his cupcake. Bummer!

The_Grand_Duchess
05-18-2008, 04:19 AM
My mom was a never go to the doctors unless its serious. That's why I was hospitalized for a week with pneumonia. My mom learned her lesson after that!

Glad he's doing ok!

nancy sv
05-18-2008, 06:24 AM
My other son was hospitalized for three days with pneumonia, but that wasn't because I didn't take him in. I took him to three doctors who failed to diagnose the pneumonia before I finally found one who knew what he was talking about and put him in the hospital. That was NOT a fun 6 weeks...

Joycecwilliams
05-18-2008, 07:32 AM
My other son was hospitalized for three days with pneumonia, but that wasn't because I didn't take him in. I took him to three doctors who failed to diagnose the pneumonia before I finally found one who knew what he was talking about and put him in the hospital. That was NOT a fun 6 weeks...

Yeah... doctors... can screw up...

Hope your son is feeling better... and better..

Jersey Chick
05-18-2008, 08:23 AM
It's good that it seems the worst is behind you. I'm glad your boy's feeling almost like his old self...