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veinglory
04-08-2005, 03:05 PM
To those of you who write erotica, what was the main reason?

In my case I was wiritng non-fiction, fantasy and romance. The spicier the romance, the better it sold -- so I sort of drifted.

Celeste
04-08-2005, 07:52 PM
Well, it all started from an experience I had, which I like to call "my adventure". Lol...After it was all said and done, I started thinking "I can turn this into a pretty cool story..." And so I did. I'm currently looking for a market for it. I have a couple in mind. But I'm undecided whether I want to just submit it as a short story or turn it into a novella. I guess, I can do both.

Anyway...I enjoyed writing this story. And I think it turned out pretty well. I started doing some reading -- erotica. I then just started brainstorming and thought of all these experiences I've had in my life that I'd like to write about. With a fictionalized twist to it, of course. I've found that I like writing erotica. In the past, I've read some here and there, but they were some really cheesy stories. And that turned me right off to it. But once I started writing the story I mention about "my adventure", I started doing more research and reading and I took a great interest in it. I've always written nonfiction articles, columns, etc. So, this was a surprise that I quickly took such an interest in it.

But I enjoy it. I'm happy I discovered 'erotica'. :banana:

celeste

Maryn
04-08-2005, 11:36 PM
My interest started when I wanted to read good erotica and just couldn't find much of quality. I lacked (okay, present-tense lack) confidence in my ability as a fiction writer, but I knew I could do better than 90% of the erotica that was out there at the time.

Since then, the Internet has blossomed with really dreadful erotica--but it's also drawn some good writers into its fold, nearly all in erotic romance, as it's become respectable.

Maryn

pepperlandgirl
04-08-2005, 11:43 PM
I was involved in the Buffy fandom since about 2001. I guess in 2002 (or 2003...I have a hard time keeping track of time) I was writing fanfic and had a small number of readers. Enough to keep me happy. Then one day, for kicks and giggles, I wrote a straight porn-without-plot, and oh my! Apparently that's what people wanted to read. Of course, in fanfic, the only currency is reviews and recommendations, and I got a great deal. The more porn I wrote, the more attention I got. I also got pretty damn good at writing erotica.

It's not my only, or even main, genre of interest, but it's fun to write and it does garner a great response.

Sheryl Nantus
04-09-2005, 12:10 AM
I was involved in the Buffy fandom since about 2001. I guess in 2002 (or 2003...I have a hard time keeping track of time) I was writing fanfic and had a small number of readers. Enough to keep me happy. Then one day, for kicks and giggles, I wrote a straight porn-without-plot, and oh my! Apparently that's what people wanted to read. Of course, in fanfic, the only currency is reviews and recommendations, and I got a great deal. The more porn I wrote, the more attention I got. I also got pretty damn good at writing erotica.

It's not my only, or even main, genre of interest, but it's fun to write and it does garner a great response.

I hear you loud and clear - used to write X-Files and Stargate fanfiction and man... did my smut get the best feedback!

*chuckles*

smut sells...

unfortunately, I couldn't get into doing slash - that got RAVE reviews and comments as well as requests for me...

*sighs*

although I know me hubby loves them and haunts the BtVS slash sites... he's a big Willow fan.

:LilLove:

arrowqueen
04-09-2005, 04:24 AM
Husband needed a new van and erotica was the only literary market expanding at the time.

Like all good strumpets, I did it for the money!

:D
aq

S.Anders
04-11-2005, 05:59 AM
I read romances for over 25 years and always wanted them to go further! It became an obsession toward the end. Then, like Maryn, I tried to find some like I would want to read and what little I did find I thought I could do better. I guess it just came down to I had to write what I wanted to read, lol.

Plus, sex sells (grins)

S.Anders

veinglory
04-11-2005, 12:36 PM
Boy does it--even within a publisher the higher the rating the more copies sell...

Giles English
04-12-2005, 12:46 AM
For kicks, mainly! When I write things down, it makes them easier to visualise. :o

RhiannonKelley
05-05-2005, 03:36 AM
I find sex extremely fascinating, maybe that seems childish, but I think that's why I write it.

LieselGarmach
05-05-2005, 05:09 AM
It started back in high school, over 25 years ago, when my first boyfriend asked me if I could write something like what he read in Penthouse Forum. I figured it really couldn't be that difficult, so I did. He asked for more. I wrote it. For over 6 months he got 1-2 1000 word stories per day from me (oh what I'd do to have them now!).

I've dabbled in other things, but always return "home". It's the easiest thing for me to write, other than letters, so I gave up fighting it and am now most comfortable thinking of kinky stuff for people to do together and to each other.

I've never been published. I've thought about submitting. For a long time I didn't because my kids went to a religious school and they'd have been expelled. Now that they're both in high school and nearly grown, it would be much easier to explain to them.

Lisamer
05-14-2005, 11:05 PM
I became ridiculously attracted to a friend of mine. In a feable attempt to avoid doing anything about it, I used my fantasies as a source of fiction. This was written only as catharsis. ..Then my husband found the piece and the real drama began. ;)

S.Anders
05-17-2005, 07:21 AM
Then my husband found the piece and the real drama began. ;)

Yikes, I hope it all worked out.

I love written drama, not real! :)

Senta
05-21-2005, 09:41 AM
because it expresses my life experience -
and because I hope that other people will start to write the kind of erotica I want to read

Lisamer
05-21-2005, 08:35 PM
Yikes, I hope it all worked out.

I love written drama, not real! :)

LOL! It was tough going for awhile. Then, my husband was in a play with the man in question. They got to know each other, and he realized that nothing had actually happened.

I, of course had to deal with the humiliation of having this guy know that I had he had inspired me to write an erotic piece, but I suppose that's better than wearing a scarlett letter A across my chest! ;)

The outcome: My husband is now working on a piece that takes place in the "same universe," as is the girlfriend of the guy in question.

You can't make this stuff up!

Solatium
05-23-2005, 12:20 PM
Because I find it easy and fun to write (funny, since IRL I'm not that interested in sex) and I expect it will be easy to sell -- a way to make some money while I'm honing my craft.

cattywampus
05-23-2005, 07:19 PM
I find this very interesting, but maybe some of you could clear up some confusions I have about this market.

What's the difference between "good" erotica and "dreadful" erotica? I once wrote and submitted a story I thought was pretty erotic, but it was rejected as not being "dirty" enough. How dirty do markets want?

Is it true that women and men want 2 different kinds of erotica? I know many men who like explicate sex talk - lots of dirty words - but women, I think, like a little romance mixed with theirs - a little love - is that right?

How do I find these markets without typing "sex" into the SE which brings TONS of porn spam? And how much does it pay?

Thanks for any help.

Catty :kiss:

gogoshire
05-23-2005, 07:55 PM
Is it true that women and men want 2 different kinds of erotica? I know many men who like explicate sex talk - lots of dirty words - but women, I think, like a little romance mixed with theirs - a little love - is that right?

I think so. Here's a gross generalization:

I think most women want more of a story (plot contruction, character development, etc), whereas most men prefer action.

veinglory
05-23-2005, 08:03 PM
I depends entirely on your market. Start with the ERWA link in the sticky at the top of the forum. Some markets appeal to men and women and some lean more to one than the other but their are always exceptions. Women readers have a lot to do with the upsurge in erotic romance.

BonnieD
06-01-2005, 07:46 PM
Pepperlandgirl, I remember you from the Buffyverse! I got my start there too at around the same time. I found those years of writing fan fiction were like an ongoing writing class. I recently started sending out articles to magazines and other publications but my erotic pieces were what sold. I guess it's what I'm best at.
Now am working on getting a couple of erotic-romance novellas e-published and, along with a partner, have written a full leng novel we're trying to sell by traditional routes.
Why erotica? Because I can.

pepperlandgirl
06-02-2005, 07:45 AM
Really BonnieD? Small old world! Were (Are) you on LJ?

Deanna Lee
06-04-2005, 12:08 AM
Let's see... I had this blog on Xanga and I used it as this sounding board to discuss with myself and several hundred virtual strangers what sex was and was not to me.

I don't know where the readers came from- I never advertised and rarely posted on the blogs of others. But I Xanga'd and they did come.... apparently in several ways.

So, as I'm hammering out my opinions on sex and then eventually baring my sexual experiences before this mysterious audience I realized that one of the reasons I'd become so dissatisfied with the romance that I was writing-- it just didn't feel real or honest.

And then I started telling my Xanga audience stories--- with really spicy detailed sex scenes and I realized quickly that my writing felt fresher and I fell in love with my words and the honest I was allowed to explore there.

Then I met up with this pushy rowdy girl (http://www.sablegrey.com/)from Mississippi who shoved me toward the publishing world with good ole country girl strength. lol.

Then all of a sudden-- I was there with 5 books published and two more on a way--- and then an agent came knocking on the door of my muse.. I can't say I've been the same since!

http://www.absolutewrite.com/forums/images/smilies/EmoteJaw.gif

veinglory
06-04-2005, 12:33 AM
I think that the erotic romance publishers like Loose Id have given a whole new lease of life to romance, although not without some backlash!

Writer2011
06-14-2005, 07:50 AM
I've tried writing erotica, but for some reason I can't get the description just right... Although I would like to read a few examples and at least attempt to try writing some..

What I guess i'm trying to say is that erotica to me is something I would like to perfect and eventually make a living at. I have been fascinated by it and would like some advice.

*B*

veinglory
06-14-2005, 01:10 PM
My, perhaps dubious, advice would be to start writing the things you really like and find sexy. Then look around for audiences that share that interest. You may be able to go straight in at the professional level--or get some help from free-display sites where fans can give you suggestions for getting things just right. For general erotica writing the online workshop at desdmona.com is a great help--the best market lists are at ERWA (see sticky thread).

Writer2011
06-14-2005, 06:51 PM
Veinglory....Thank you :)... I've tried writing it, but sometimes I can't get out what I want to say on paper..if that makes sense. I would LOVE to write an erotice vampire series...but i'm sure that's been beaten into the ground, but I would like to put a spin on it. Again, thank you so very much. :) :)

veinglory
06-15-2005, 06:47 PM
Erotic vampire is still a thriving genre especially with the e-publishers (some of whom make good sales, take a look at:
http://www.ellorascave.com/BookList.asp?Category=VampireWerewolf
http://www.changelingpress.com/catalog.php?upt=book&ufilter=theme&uid=6

Here are some possible yahoogroups:
http://groups.yahoo.com/group/erotic_romancers/ -- not all that busy but if you post there I will help out. The few emembers it has are good quality critiquers and always up for a discussion

http://groups.yahoo.com/group/Adventures-in-Romantica-Critique-Group/ Is a good beginners groups with published emembers who help mentor and give advice.

For general market research into erotic romance try busy lists like http://groups.yahoo.com/group/theresemacfarland and http://groups.yahoo.com/group/justeroticromancereviewsnewsletter and http://groups.yahoo.com/group/LooseId_community (associated with epublisher loose id.) These are big groups with reader, writers and editors on them and good for getting advice.

I would also suggest my forum http://veinglory.8.forumer.com/index.php and you can always try asking for general advice right here.

Finally--you could try starting with short fiction. There is an open anthology with epublisher Chippewa Publishing (themed vampire erotica). http://www.chippewapublishing.com/

If you are focused more on print publishers others might be able to give some more advice.

Trish1
07-20-2005, 09:13 AM
To those of you who write erotica, what was the main reason?



I met my man online and sex has never been the same for me - wild!! lol. So I wanted to share with the world how anyone can find a love of their life online and learn all the pleasure tips in the process to be a fantastic love making couple.

Leonore
07-21-2005, 03:29 AM
I was writing poems and always tried to write the big novel when I showed some of my texts to another writer on a conferens. He read and read until he was red all over his face. Then he turned to me and asked: Why don't you write erotica?
The next day I sat down and wrote my first erotic short story. The next two got published and I just kept writing. Finally I had found somthing I was good at writing!
I hope I'll move on to more accepted forms of writing, but for now I'm very happy writing erotica ;)
Besides; I need it at this point of my life, to explore my own sexuality and my fantasies. My stories are based on things I'm not able to do in real life, so I use my writing to "live them out".

Writer2011
07-21-2005, 03:38 AM
Currently i'm working on a collection of short stories with some erotica...not the hardcore stuff but enough to get the blood flowing if you know what I mean. I like to be in control of a story :)

annafallon
07-26-2005, 12:30 PM
Hi Everyone
I began in erotic romance because it is the fastest growing medium for writers. There are more opportunities available and I find it fun to write. Since being published at Phaze.com I have made a heap of new friends and learned a thing or two on promo's. i am building myself as an author and Erotic romance has opened doors for me. I also enjoy writing articles and other romance, but erotic is the most fun i've had with my pants on!
arousingly yours
Anna

Femotica
08-02-2005, 04:16 AM
As Maryn said, feeling that I could write something better. Who knows if it's true. :) But when you can't find stories that you like, sometimes you just have to write it yourself.

pconsidine
09-23-2005, 11:37 PM
Boy, it's been many years since I tackled writing a "dirty story" but back in my student days, it was one of my primary sources of income. It was quick and easy and I could buy groceries off the proceeds. Can you imagine a time when porn web sites were so desperate for content, they'd actually pay you for it? Ah... those were the days. :)

alishope
09-27-2005, 06:44 AM
I tried it because I had published short stories in just about every other genre. I felt stuck and kind of stale. I stumbled across a short story online looking for something else and read it. Then I thought, I wonder if i could write this? So I tried. Once I got past all the "learned hangups" of content and certain word choices (chuckle) I treated it like any other story just with all the good stuff included. I sold my second story on the first try. It was pretty good money and it was fun, fun, fun. I started selling more--I think my writing was coming naturally because I was having a blast. Plus, my husband walks around smiling all the time...research, you know.:hat:

Ali

carlylyncoe
09-29-2005, 04:35 AM
I am new here, but couldn't resist...I started writing mainstream stuff many years ago and did well at it. Then a year ago, I got involved with my old high school sweetheart and even tho we are older we are still HOT! So, out of love and passion for him and our relationship I started writing about us.......it sorta got out of hand, now I am writing all kinds of erotica and still writing the original story os "us".......but of course, making it hotter than it was waaaay back then! <My mother would turn over in her grave!>
Ya nevah know what will get you goin' when it somnes to sex....it's all between the ears, to begin with...

Carly, writing "THROUGH SPACE AND TIME"
ask me for a snipet.....

wildfire
10-23-2005, 07:42 PM
I've done a lot of different kinds of writing over the years, with little success. In recent years I've focused mainly on ploitical opinion.
Then I had great fun two years ago, while spending the summer in Ecuador, telling my friends at home about my adventures getting seduced by an indigenous youth...
But what really got me interested in this was the e-mail exchange I had going with my boyfriend during the eight months in which we lived 3 hours apart and saw each other on weekends. Plenty of dirty talk, long fantasies--he told me all about what he had planned for my "training sessions," when I was his slave...and I came up with a fantasy one day that I wrote down, and he elaborated on, and then it was my turn, and we started talking about turning it into a novel. So now I'm trying to find out about markets. It looks like this site will be much more helpful than previous searches. Meanwhile, I've been sending short fantasies and two article proposals to Playgirl, but no hits so far (they're considering one of the fantasies).

dragonjax
10-26-2005, 06:40 PM
One of my critique partners is a published erotica and porn author. After she read one of my novels (a chick lit), she suggested beefing up the sex scenes. That got me wondering if I could actually write a convincing sex scene; she thought I could. So I started elaborating. For my current book, it's...well, it's not erotica per se, but there are graphic sex scenes (without being crude). And I wrote a dark erotica piece (horror story with strong sexual scenes/sex as part of the overall plot) that I recently sold to RUTHIE'S CLUB.

So for me, it was sort of a "Let's see if I can" thing.

But there's a bonus: My husband LOVES the material. ;-)

LadSista
11-01-2005, 04:54 PM
I have always loved writing stories since age 12. And the older I became, the more erotic my stories became. Now I am very comfortable with myself and writing erotic is what I write mostly.

http://barebackmag.com/

blisswriter
11-15-2005, 10:13 AM
I can't remember how I began writing smut. It's likely it started with journal entries of personal experiences. :Ssh: