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Upbeat
05-14-2008, 12:55 AM
Whether conversing in cyberspace or in face-to-face conversation there are people who seem to enjoy misunderstanding what someone has written or said.
They'll take straightforward comments, distort them in their minds, then run with them on levels foreign to the original subjects.
While one solution is to be as clear as you possibly can, when writing or saying something, there still are folks who'll grab the wrong ball and run with it.
Why is this?
...many reasons, perhaps - some unintentional - others deliberate.

Tink
05-14-2008, 01:14 AM
Pllllllllllaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaayyyyyyyyyyyyyyy Baaaaaaaaaaalllllllllllllllllllllllll !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

slcboston
05-14-2008, 01:15 AM
I'll thank you to leave my.... Wait, that's not going to come out right at all, is it? :D

truelyana
05-14-2008, 01:16 AM
Yes, and I find it wonderful and very interesting, as it shows different people have various ways of perceiving things. I find everyones understanding fascinating, even if it may not be the same as yours. In the end, everyone takes on their own interpretation anyway, so whatever you may say, may not end up clear in another's mind. It's interesting how we all think, and what we take from the moment, isn't it? :D

It's also interesting, how this seems to be most visible in informal places like the Internet such as forums, as you are really just reading words, and you can often associate so many different things with a few words, someone else writes.

robeiae
05-14-2008, 01:20 AM
Do you know people who'll grab the wrong ball and run with it?

Yes, I do. And you know what? It FREAKIN' HURTS!!!!

Upbeat
05-14-2008, 01:20 AM
Tink...exactly!!

Tink
05-14-2008, 01:24 AM
Tink...exactly!! No, not me! *casts innocent doe-eyed look towards upbeat*

Upbeat
05-14-2008, 01:25 AM
I think it's very interesting, as it shows different people have various ways of perceiving things. I find everyones understanding fascinating, even if it may not be the same as yours. In the end, everyone takes on their own interpretation anyway, so whatever you may say, may not end up clear in another's mind. It's interesting how we all think, and what we take from the moment, isn't it? :D

It's also interesting, how this seems to be most visible in informal places like the Internet such as forums, as you are really just reading words, and you can often associate so many different things with a few words, someone else may write.

...a most thoughtful response; and yes, I SO agree with what you've written here.

Tink
05-14-2008, 01:28 AM
...a most thoughtful response; and yes, I SO agree with what you've written here. Oh, now I get it... Ah ha moment, you wanted intellect here...ummm, I better scoot on outta' here...:gone:

Upbeat
05-14-2008, 01:30 AM
No, not me! *casts innocent doe-eyed look towards upbeat*

Oh - sweet innocence!

DWSTXS
05-14-2008, 01:32 AM
Whether conversing in cyberspace or in face-to-face conversation there are people who seem to enjoy misunderstanding what someone has written or said.
They'll take straightforward comments, distort them in their minds, then run with them on levels foreign to the original subjects.
While one solution is to be as clear as you possible can, when writing or saying something, there still are folks who'll grab the wrong ball and run with it.
Why is this?
...many reasons, perhaps - some unintentional - others deliberate.

I couldn't disagree with you less!

rhymegirl
05-14-2008, 01:37 AM
Don't take my ball or I'm telling my mommy.

Devil Ledbetter
05-14-2008, 01:39 AM
I just knock them flat on their asses and grab the ball back.

CACTUSWENDY
05-14-2008, 01:44 AM
I think you are all wrong. What about the taxes?

You all think you know so much. Show me the link.

And you, you who think that green is better. Pffft. What do you know?

This is a time for a good flounce................I am out of here......poooooffff

soleary
05-14-2008, 02:11 AM
A friend of mine who is a psychologist told me that over 80% of communication is nonverbal. If you consider this, how much communication do we do through phone or email or blog? If we can't literally read each other, it becomes more difficult.

Interesting ....

Upbeat
05-14-2008, 02:18 AM
I think you are all wrong. What about the taxes?

You all think you know so much. Show me the link.

And you, you who think that green is better. Pffft. What do you know?

This is a time for a good flounce................I am out of here......poooooffff

Regarding the thoughts expressed in this thread starter, any ball will do. I love both serious and funny responses.
In fact - when reading the above, I sat here laughing out loud!
You - all of you - are something else!!!

Upbeat
05-14-2008, 02:28 AM
A friend of mine who is a psychologist told me that over 80% of communication is nonverbal. If you consider this, how much communication do we do through phone or email or blog? If we can't literally read each other, it becomes more difficult.

Interesting ....

...if only we all could be mind readers!!
- or read between the lines.

Silver King
05-14-2008, 03:17 AM
This is an interesting topic, one which most of us have struggled with here at one time or another when posting. Sometimes it doesn't matter what you say, as even the simplest and most well-intentioned response can be misinterpreted to mean the opposite of what you proposed. And when you try to clarify your position, often it leads to creating a wider gulf of misunderstanding.

I think it requires a good number of posts, at least a couple of hundred, until members appreciate where you're coming from. There's a greater degree of acceptance when views are offered from someone you feel you know instead of a person you've recently met, simply because you understand better the person who has been around longer.

But it doesn't matter how many posts you have, or how long you've been here, because at some point, someone's going to grab your ball and shove it down your throat no matter what you say. And it's how you deal with the ensuing gag reflex that matters most in showing how well you communicate.

choppersmom
05-14-2008, 03:19 AM
And then, some people will just cover up the ball with an innocent baby...

mscelina
05-14-2008, 03:21 AM
This is an interesting topic, one which most of us have struggled with here at one time or another when posting. Sometimes it doesn't matter what you say, as even the simplest and most well-intentioned response can be misinterpreted to mean the opposite of what you proposed. And when you try to clarify your position, often it leads to creating a wider gulf of misunderstanding.

I think it requires a good number of posts, at least a couple of hundred, until members appreciate where you're coming from. There's a greater degree of acceptance when views are offered from someone you feel you know instead of a person you've recently met, simply because you understand better the person who has been around longer.

But it doesn't matter how many posts you have, or how long you've been here, because at some point, someone's going to grab your ball and shove it down your throat no matter what you say. And it's how you deal with the ensuing gag reflex that matters most in showing how well you communicate.



{{{{{{{{{{{{{{{{{{{{HUGS}}}}}}}}}}}}}}}}}}}}}}}} -- for Silver King!

Of course, in MY world, people take the ball where I tell 'em to. Period.

;)

lakotagirl
05-14-2008, 03:26 AM
And when you try to clarify your position, often it leads to creating a wider gulf of misunderstanding.



Yep. I tend to not clarify unless several people take something in a way that I did not intend. Life's just too short to spend time with someone who isn't going to understand where you are coming from.

I'd rather leave them giving me the finger behind my back than waste the time trying to explain my point of view.

That sounds pretty rude - I'm not a nasty person. I just don't waste time with people who look for problems with anything.

CACTUSWENDY
05-14-2008, 03:31 AM
<<<<<<<<<<<<<<am still flouncing.......:e2tongue:

Silver King
05-14-2008, 03:41 AM
Yep. I tend to not clarify unless several people take something in a way that I did not intend. Life's just too short to spend time with someone who isn't going to understand where you are coming from.

I'd rather leave them giving me the finger behind my back than waste the time trying to explain my point of view.

That sounds pretty rude - I'm not a nasty person. I just don't waste time with people who look for problems with anything.
There's a lot to be said about the wisdom of walking away from a discussion, though it can be exceedingly difficult at times. Even when the walls are crumbling and the roof is caving in, I'll stand at the podium and espouse my views even after everyone else has fled the building. I'm stubborn that way. But is it worth it? Hardly ever, as I once again find myself crawling out from the rubble, soiled and dazed and far worse for the wear.

Cranky
05-14-2008, 03:47 AM
There's a lot to be said about the wisdom of walking away from a discussion, though it can be exceedingly difficult at times. Even when the walls are crumbling and the roof is caving in, I'll stand at the podium and espouse my views even after everyone else has fled the building. I'm stubborn that way. But is it worth it? Hardly ever, as I once again find myself crawling out from the rubble, soiled and dazed and far worse for the wear.

I type stuff out, and then delete it before I hit post.

Or not. Sometimes I don't delete until after I've already sent it. ((HUGS))

rhymegirl
05-14-2008, 03:48 AM
There's a lot to be said about the wisdom of walking away from a discussion, though it can be exceedingly difficult at times. Even when the walls are crumbling and the roof is caving in, I'll stand at the podium and espouse my views even after everyone else has fled the building. I'm stubborn that way. But is it worth it? Hardly ever, as I once again find myself crawling out from the rubble, soiled and dazed and far worse for the wear.

Do you need a big hug?

TrainofThought
05-14-2008, 03:49 AM
There's a lot to be said about the wisdom of walking away from a discussion, though it can be exceedingly difficult at times. Even when the walls are crumbling and the roof is caving in, I'll stand at the podium and espouse my views even after everyone else has fled the building. I'm stubborn that way. But is it worth it? Hardly ever, as I once again find myself crawling out from the rubble, soiled and dazed and far worse for the wear.There ain't shit to be said about walking away from a discussion. Grow some balls, go after the jugular, rip them to shreds, serve them to your guests and then say your prayers at night. ;)

I'm stubborn too. And really, really ornery (didn't spell correctly. Can you look it up for me?)

William Haskins
05-14-2008, 03:50 AM
i'm invoking godwin's law.

Silver King
05-14-2008, 04:07 AM
Do you need a big hug?
I was tempted to say, "No, but I can sure use a -------."

Then we could've tested my theory of appreciating where members are coming from, and how easy it is to be misunderstood here.

robeiae
05-14-2008, 04:35 AM
*takes broom handle and uses it to shove the ball the rest of the way down SK's throat*

robeiae
05-14-2008, 04:35 AM
I wonder, am I ever misunderstood?

Eh.

mscelina
05-14-2008, 04:37 AM
No. Unfortunately, Rob, I understand you all too well...

...and it scares me. ;)

rhymegirl
05-14-2008, 04:38 AM
Rob, you're a bad boy.

robeiae
05-14-2008, 04:42 AM
Rob, you're a bad boy.You know what's bad? Posting the lyrics to the Barney Theme Song, so it starts going through your head, over and over again...

I love you,
You love me,
We're a happy family,
with a great big hug,
and a kiss from me to you,
Won't you say you love me TOO!

I love you,
You love me,
We're best friends like friends should be,
With a great big hug,
And a kiss from me to you,
Won't you say you love me too

I love you,
You love me,
We're a happy family,
with a great big hug,
and a kiss from me to you,
Won't you say you love me TOO!

I love you,
You love me,
We're best friends like friends should be,
With a great big hug,
And a kiss from me to you,
Won't you say you love me too

I love you,
You love me,
We're a happy family,
with a great big hug,
and a kiss from me to you,
Won't you say you love me TOO!

I love you,
You love me,
We're best friends like friends should be,
With a great big hug,
And a kiss from me to you,
Won't you say you love me too

I love you,
You love me,
We're a happy family,
with a great big hug,
and a kiss from me to you,
Won't you say you love me TOO!

I love you,
You love me,
We're best friends like friends should be,
With a great big hug,
And a kiss from me to you,
Won't you say you love me too

rhymegirl
05-14-2008, 04:43 AM
I think I'm gonna vomit.

BenPanced
05-14-2008, 04:45 AM
I'm upper, upper class high society
God's gift to ballroom notoriety
And I always fill my ballroom
The event is never small
All the social papers say I've got the biggest balls of all

CHORUS
I've got big balls
I've got big balls
And they're such big balls
Dirty big balls
And he's got big balls,
And she's got big balls,
But we've got the biggest balls of them all!

And my balls are always bouncing
My ballroom always full
And everybody comes and comes again
If your name is on the guest list
No one can take you higher
Everybody says I've got great balls of fire!

CHORUS

Some balls are held for charity
And some for fancy dress
But when they're held for pleasure,
They're the balls that I like best.
And my balls are always bouncing,
To the left and to the right.
It's my belief that my big balls should be held every night.

CHORUS

And I'm just itching to tell you about them
Oh, we have such wonderful fun
Seafood cocktail
Crabs
Crayfish

Susie
05-14-2008, 05:54 AM
How about :Cake: & :popcorn: ?
:)

Soccer Mom
05-14-2008, 06:23 AM
i'm invoking godwin's law.

I'm invoking Godwin's Cat.

http://images.icanhascheezburger.com/completestore/2008/4/23/godwinscat128534726116250000.jpg

benbradley
05-14-2008, 07:28 AM
How about :Cake: & :popcorn: ?
:)
Thanks, I was about to ask if anyone was getting hungry...

I'm invoking Godwin's Cat.
Any relation to Shrodinger's cat?

Jersey Chick
05-14-2008, 07:30 AM
Yes, I do. And you know what? It FREAKIN' HURTS!!!!
:ROFL:

JJ Cooper
05-14-2008, 07:33 AM
A friend of mine who is a psychologist told me that over 80% of communication is nonverbal. If you consider this, how much communication do we do through phone or email or blog? If we can't literally read each other, it becomes more difficult.

Interesting ....

Verbal - 7% (what is said);

Vocal - 38% (how it is said); and

Non verbal - 55% (facial expression, posture, gestures).

More information in my blog.

JJ

jennifer75
05-14-2008, 07:38 AM
Whether conversing in cyberspace or in face-to-face conversation there are people who seem to enjoy misunderstanding what someone has written or said.
They'll take straightforward comments, distort them in their minds, then run with them on levels foreign to the original subjects.
While one solution is to be as clear as you possibly can, when writing or saying something, there still are folks who'll grab the wrong ball and run with it.
Why is this?
...many reasons, perhaps - some unintentional - others deliberate.

I once (I actually use it A LOT) used LOL in a conversation, and it was totally misconstrued. Totally. I am still in shock. This person actually thought I was "laughing out loud" at her and no longer speaks to me. In my opinion, totally grabbed the ball and ran.

jennifer75
05-14-2008, 07:43 AM
A friend of mine who is a psychologist told me that over 80% of communication is nonverbal. If you consider this, how much communication do we do through phone or email or blog? If we can't literally read each other, it becomes more difficult.

Interesting ....

I just told someone I love them, via Text Msg. And I meant it. But I can't say it in person. Why is it that we rely on "literally" expressing our feelings and thoughts, instead of in person? And now, to think that is will probably be misconstrued, we'll never get our thoughts across.

Upbeat
05-14-2008, 09:59 PM
Verbal - 7% (what is said);

Vocal - 38% (how it is said); and

Non verbal - 55% (facial expression, posture, gestures).

More information in my blog.

JJ

All things considered - how we write becomes challenge.
Then, there's that other factor - the reader's mindset.

Little Red Barn
05-14-2008, 10:23 PM
I found this somewhere, but I can not remember who wrote it or where I got it, but ohh, soo true and food for thought:

"We are living a hyper-mobile, cyber-centric, attention-deficient life. Day by day, we are eroding our capacity for deep attention the building block of intimacy, wisdom, and cultural progress."

CDarklock
05-14-2008, 10:46 PM
A well-known game designer once gave me the single most profound piece of wisdom I have ever heard.

"Attention is the currency of the future."

Drop that into a basic understanding of economic theory, and see what comes out.

Mel
05-14-2008, 11:01 PM
I just popped in to see who had the ball now. Did someone lose it?

Upbeat
05-15-2008, 02:27 AM
I found this somewhere, but I can not remember who wrote it or where I got it, but ohh, soo true and food for thought:

"We are living a hyper-mobile, cyber-centric, attention-deficient life. Day by day, we are eroding our capacity for deep attention the building block of intimacy, wisdom, and cultural progress."

Sad but true quote ...and one more thing - "Information overload" !

Soccer Mom
05-15-2008, 05:17 AM
http://images.icanhascheezburger.com/completestore/2008/5/14/ihaztehball128552878438142825.jpg

C.bronco
05-15-2008, 05:45 AM
http://www.lolcats.com/images/u/07/35/lolcatsdotcom32w2hsb2g9yqpgdv.jpg
If I ever saw an open invitation to wiseacres, this was it!
(D-E-R-A-I-L and sometimes "y.")

Silver King
05-15-2008, 06:10 AM
I was tempted to say, "No, but I can sure use a -------."
So no one took me up on the challenge?

It's two words. The first begins with a "b" and the second ends with a "b."

Any guesses?

Hint: Keep your mind out of the gutter, even though that seems impossible. :)

BenPanced
05-15-2008, 06:22 AM
So no one took me up on the challenge?

It's two words. The first begins with a "b" and the second ends with a "b."

Any guesses?

Hint: Keep your mind out of the gutter, even though that seems impossible. :)
Barbecued rib?

Joycecwilliams
05-15-2008, 05:29 PM
I was tempted to say, "No, but I can sure use a -------."

Then we could've tested my theory of appreciating where members are coming from, and how easy it is to be misunderstood here.

Big Boob... :)

Joycecwilliams
05-15-2008, 05:32 PM
I think walking away from a flame war, is much better than staying in the battle.

I know who I am, and what I mean... if I cannot convince the party in question after several attempts so be it... I don't need drama and aggravation in my life.

Silver King
05-15-2008, 06:05 PM
Barbecued rib?
Close.


Big Boob... :)
Even closer!

But the answer is...back rub. :)

Joycecwilliams
05-15-2008, 06:09 PM
Close.


Even closer!

But the answer is...back rub. :)

oh.... I was thinking it was a BBQ'd Boob... :)

Back Rubs are great...

robeiae
05-15-2008, 06:12 PM
What are these "flame wars" you speak of? I'd like to get in on one of those...just once.

Cranky
05-15-2008, 06:17 PM
What are these "flame wars" you speak of? I'd like to get in on one of those...just once.

I can't laugh hard enough at this. I'd suck all the oxygen out of the atmosphere!



Here's your opening, Rob....:D

James81
05-15-2008, 06:42 PM
cyberspace

No, I do NOT want to cyber with you.

Silver King
05-15-2008, 06:45 PM
No, I do NOT want to cyber with you.
Is that like spooning, only with lots of space between the bodies?

Cranky
05-15-2008, 06:56 PM
Must.Refrain.From.Posting.

James81
05-15-2008, 06:58 PM
Is that like spooning, only with lots of space between the bodies?

It's more like forking actually. :D

James81
05-15-2008, 06:58 PM
*buh dum chunk!*

Silver King
05-15-2008, 07:00 PM
It's more like forking actually. :D
Forking aye, why didn't I think of that? ;)

Joycecwilliams
05-15-2008, 11:09 PM
What are these "flame wars" you speak of? I'd like to get in on one of those...just once.

flame wars are where you get BBQ'd Boobs. :)