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HapiSofi
05-03-2008, 11:25 PM
I just got emergency email from Teresa Nielsen Hayden.

Some of you will recall the Great AW Diaspora of Spring 2006 (see (http://64.233.167.104/search?q=cache:1vpwmYHkIwgJ:nielsenhayden.com/makinglight/archives/007577.html+absolute+write+caches+contributions&hl=en&ct=clnk&cd=2&gl=us); see also (http://64.233.167.104/search?q=cache:kpKQ9Iw6algJ:nielsenhayden.com/makinglight/archives/007593.html+absolute+write+caches+contributions&hl=en&ct=clnk&cd=1&gl=us)).

Making Light, which was one of the sites where AW refugees hung out during that time, has just suffered its own data disaster. Some fried hardware at its hosting site has wiped out everything back to the beginning of March 2008. (Be very kind to Jim Macdonald. He's also one of Making Light's editors, and he may have lost a substantial amount of writing that had been saved as draft posts on Movable Type.)

Making Light's emergency operations center is at Abigail Sutherland's Live Journal, Evilrooster Crows (http://www.sunpig.com/abi), http://www.sunpig.com/abi.

Like the AW community in 2006, the Making Light community is trying to salvage what they can from online caches and personal stashes. They need to act fast.

Most urgently: If any of you are Making Light readers, and currently have any part of it in your browser history or RSS caches, please consider saving it and forwarding it to the salvage project.

Also: If anyone here was part of the AW cache salvage project and remembers how it was done, please write to Teresa Nielsen Hayden, tnh@panix.com, and cc: Patrick Nielsen Hayden, pnh@panix.com; James D. Macdonald, yog@sff.net; Avram Grumer, avram@grumer.net; and Abigail Sutherland, evilrooster@gmail.com.

if anyone wants to volunteer to help, go to Evilrooster Crows (http://www.sunpig.com/abi) and look for the current lists of what's been recovered and what needs to be recovered.

Please pass the word along to appropriate parties. And if you have another clever way to salvage ML's data, do please get in touch with them and suggest it.

Thanks.

Perks
05-03-2008, 11:28 PM
Oh no. I'm not there often, but best wishes for the slogging ahead.

Dawno
05-04-2008, 01:02 AM
bumping thread - ML was a huge help to us during our crisis, hope we can return the favor somehow

SpookyWriter
05-04-2008, 01:13 AM
This is terrible.



404 Not Found

The server can not find the requested page:

nielsenhayden.com/makinglight/ (port 80) Please forward this error screen to nielsenhayden.com's WebMaster (root@gemini.hmdnsgroup.com?subject=Error message [404] 404 Not Found for nielsenhayden.com/makinglight/ port 80 on Saturday, 03-May-2008 17:11:45 EDT).

Silver King
05-04-2008, 02:21 AM
Keeping this thread at the top of the heap for now.

Shweta
05-04-2008, 02:35 AM
I've emailed my husband and Zack Weinberg, who did the automated cache saving for AW before.
ETA: Zack doesn't have the final code, so we're waiting on Nathaniel being at a computer. He's at a Thing but I have interrupted. He says he can certainly try the auto-cache but doesn't know if it will work.

So! Failing that, here's how we manually save pages from cache.

Type in Making Light in a search engine (google, yahoo, etc*). You'll get something like this:


Making Light
A liberal to libertarian weblog on issues of interest to a full-time science fiction editor and part-time musician in New York.
nielsenhayden.com/makinglight/ - 152k - Cached - Similar pages - Note this

Then instead of clicking on Making Light, you'd click on cached.

Then you save that page (hit save page, as html). In this case what I get is this page (http://209.85.173.104/search?q=cache:bXNffxgXZ5MJ:nielsenhayden.com/makinglight/+Making+Light&hl=en&ct=clnk&cd=1&gl=us).
Then for each link that needs saving from that page (Comments should be saved, particles don't need to be since they're links to other places, etc) you copy that link, paste it into a search engine and click cached. And save that page. etc.

ETA: Looking here (http://sunpig.com/abi/), they only need caches back to March 1st. We can do that!

Alternatively if you remember any keywords from old Making Light pages, type those into a search engine and click cached. This is especially useful for any entries so old we won't get back to them in time, starting from the most recent cache.

For example, if I type in "electrons find their paths in subtle ways" Making Light I get... well, too many different hits from different places. But if I type in "electrons find their paths in subtle ways" "nielsenhayden.com/makinglight" I only get a few, so I click on "show similar pages". That gets me these caches:
http://209.85.173.104/search?q=cache:8pkp4EOcAyIJ:nielsenhayden.com/makinglight/archives/009226.html+%22electrons+find+their+paths+in+subtl e+ways%22+Making+Light&hl=en&ct=clnk&cd=3&gl=us
http://209.85.173.104/search?q=cache:2MyuPtesITUJ:nielsenhayden.com/makinglight/archives/008033.html+%22electrons+find+their+paths+in+subtl e+ways%22+%22nielsenhayden.com/makinglight%22&hl=en&ct=clnk&cd=1&gl=us
http://209.85.173.104/search?q=cache:nNXGU1ydHg4J:nielsenhayden.com/makinglight/archives/009381.html+%22electrons+find+their+paths+in+subtl e+ways%22+%22nielsenhayden.com/makinglight%22&hl=en&ct=clnk&cd=2&gl=us
http://209.85.173.104/search?q=cache:et3jjIN_fLYJ:nielsenhayden.com/makinglight/archives/008083.html+%22electrons+find+their+paths+in+subtl e+ways%22+%22nielsenhayden.com/makinglight%22&hl=en&ct=clnk&cd=3&gl=us
http://209.85.173.104/search?q=cache:8pkp4EOcAyIJ:nielsenhayden.com/makinglight/archives/009226.html+%22electrons+find+their+paths+in+subtl e+ways%22+%22nielsenhayden.com/makinglight%22&hl=en&ct=clnk&cd=4&gl=us
http://209.85.173.104/search?q=cache:EbTJmdXVkvEJ:nielsenhayden.com/makinglight/archives/2006_09.html+%22electrons+find+their+paths+in+subt le+ways%22+%22nielsenhayden.com/makinglight%22&hl=en&ct=clnk&cd=5&gl=us
http://209.85.173.104/search?q=cache:EbTJmdXVkvEJ:nielsenhayden.com/makinglight/archives/2006_09.html+"electrons+find+their+paths+in+subtle+ways"+"nielsenhayden.com/makinglight"&hl=en&ct=clnk&cd=5&gl=us
http://209.85.173.104/search?q=cache:iptO7guZFPQJ:nielsenhayden.com/makinglight/commentlist-oneauthor.php%3Fauthor%3Dbeth%2520meacham%26email% 3Dbmeacham%40gmail.com+"electrons+find+their+paths+in+subtle+ways"+"nielsenhayden.com/makinglight"&hl=en&ct=clnk&cd=6&gl=us
http://209.85.173.104/search?q=cache:zmGTBFCi8jIJ:nielsenhayden.com/makinglight/commentlist-oneauthor.php%3Fauthor%3DBeth%2520Meacham%26email% 3Dbmeacham%40gmail.com+"electrons+find+their+paths+in+subtle+ways"+"nielsenhayden.com/makinglight"&hl=en&ct=clnk&cd=7&gl=us
...And a buncha stuff that isn't Making Light.
I know, it's daunting, but if each person claims one of these links and saves it and every relevant link from it, and posts cache links where they cannot ... explore further down that tree, I think we can do it.

You see why I hope the automatic thing will work. But it might not, so however many people can get pages saved

* Different engines have different caches. If Google doesn't have a page, try Yahoo. I think yahoo updates caches less regularly.

EriRae
05-04-2008, 02:38 AM
Oh my goodness. I hope everyone is able to retrieve their stuff. That's horrible!

William Haskins
05-04-2008, 02:41 AM
posted an S.O.S. at authorscoop to help spread the word.

Shweta
05-04-2008, 02:55 AM
Shall we make another thread for actually signing up to save sets of pages? It'd be best if we don't overlap, so like, if one person volunteers for each of the links above (or one they find independently) and then posts the links that they haven't been able to explore for other people to take up, etc.

SpookyWriter
05-04-2008, 02:58 AM
Shall we make another thread for actually signing up to save sets of pages? It'd be best if we don't overlap, so like, if one person volunteers for each of the links above (or one they find independently) and then posts the links that they haven't been able to explore for other people to take up, etc.
Try this link http://web.archive.org/web/*/http://www.nielsenhayden.com/makinglight/

Every thread for Makinglight is in one place. Easy to restore from here.

William Haskins
05-04-2008, 03:02 AM
but the threads from the past 6 months (the period from which they've lost data) are not yet there.

SpookyWriter
05-04-2008, 03:06 AM
but the threads from the past 6 months (the period from which they've lost data) are not yet there.Google web archives makinglight.

I'm sorry, but I have limited connectivity and am leaving in a few days or I'd be able to help more.

There are a few web crawlers out their in cyberspace that will probably have the remainder.

Or try the meta search engines.

William Haskins
05-04-2008, 03:07 AM
godspeed on your trip.

SpookyWriter
05-04-2008, 03:10 AM
godspeed on your trip.Thank you sir.

Here are a few helpful sites: remember to google "web archives" and select the ones which are most useful.

Internet Archive (http://www.archive.org/)

Zotero and Internet Archive join forces · Web, 85 billion pages ... The Internet Archive is building a digital library of Internet sites and other cultural ...
www.archive.org/ - 28k - Cached (http://64.233.167.104/search?q=cache:X_orQak8XegJ:www.archive.org/+web+archives&hl=en&ct=clnk&cd=1&gl=us) - Similar pages (http://www.google.com/search?hl=en&q=related:www.archive.org/)
Search Engine (http://www.google.com/url?q=http://www.archive.org/search.php&sa=X&oi=smap&resnum=1&ct=result&cd=1&usg=AFQjCNEKaKQeHLCJUOB4O_YdLcwPL3fdjw)
Web (http://www.google.com/url?q=http://www.archive.org/web/web.php&sa=X&oi=smap&resnum=1&ct=result&cd=2&usg=AFQjCNGbpn0AzrZS-zRJBQ3sbes8aqaG-g)
Live Music Archive (http://www.google.com/url?q=http://www.archive.org/details/etree&sa=X&oi=smap&resnum=1&ct=result&cd=3&usg=AFQjCNEZizCJk-BehhddQo9eneNPuk3Xeg)
Moving Images (http://www.google.com/url?q=http://www.archive.org/details/movies&sa=X&oi=smap&resnum=1&ct=result&cd=4&usg=AFQjCNHV4ZJvyqDcobGz9cO-8FE1E1t8tg)
Audio (http://www.google.com/url?q=http://www.archive.org/details/audio&sa=X&oi=smap&resnum=1&ct=result&cd=5&usg=AFQjCNG8F7ZFlMxUk9Eo0u5DEznhhoeQPw)
Texts (http://www.google.com/url?q=http://www.archive.org/details/texts&sa=X&oi=smap&resnum=1&ct=result&cd=6&usg=AFQjCNEpuYS97QcTSmSWK8AuPCIrI-3XwA)
by band (http://www.google.com/url?q=http://www.archive.org/browse.php%3Fcollection%3Detree%26field%3D%252Fmet adata%252Fcreator&sa=X&oi=smap&resnum=1&ct=result&cd=7&usg=AFQjCNEtlq4ekE1_93mR2-Gnubc0PndCLg)
Upload (http://www.google.com/url?q=http://www.archive.org/create/&sa=X&oi=smap&resnum=1&ct=result&cd=8&usg=AFQjCNGQz8d5pwthYVa0qkWjsCTiOATu3A)
More results from archive.org » (http://www.google.com/search?hl=en&q=+site:archive.org+web+archives&sa=X&oi=smap&resnum=1&ct=more-results)

Internet Archive: Wayback Machine (http://www.archive.org/web/web.php)

This is the largest web crawl attempted by Internet Archive. ... This Web archive is a collection of over 1500 sites relating to the December 2004 Tsunami ...
www.archive.org/web/web.php - 64k - Cached (http://64.233.167.104/search?q=cache:t_rEdxbjLBIJ:www.archive.org/web/web.php+web+archives&hl=en&ct=clnk&cd=2&gl=us) - Similar pages (http://www.google.com/search?hl=en&q=related:www.archive.org/web/web.php)

Archives of Dead Web Pages: Wayback, Cache, and More (http://www.searchengineshowdown.com/others/archive.shtml)

Lists and compares Internet current awareness services.
www.searchengineshowdown.com/others/archive.shtml - 14k - Cached (http://64.233.167.104/search?q=cache:qh51yLlzPg4J:www.searchengineshowdo wn.com/others/archive.shtml+web+archives&hl=en&ct=clnk&cd=3&gl=us) - Similar pages (http://www.google.com/search?hl=en&q=related:www.searchengineshowdown.com/others/archive.shtml)

Web archiving - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Web_archiving)

Web archivists generally archive all types of web content including HTML web pages, ... Web archives which rely on web crawling as their primary means of ...
en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Web_archiving - 40k - Cached (http://64.233.167.104/search?q=cache:07DSvjGHNpQJ:en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Web_archiving+web+archives&hl=en&ct=clnk&cd=4&gl=us) - Similar pages (http://www.google.com/search?hl=en&q=related:en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Web_archiving)

Technophilia: Where the Web Archives Are (http://lifehacker.com/software/technophilia/where-the-web-archives-are-292981.php)

Aug 27, 2007 ... Some of the most intriguing resources on the web are located in archives mdash compilations of data that in the.
lifehacker.com/software/technophilia/where-the-web-archives-are-292981.php - Similar pages (http://www.google.com/search?hl=en&q=related:lifehacker.com/software/technophilia/where-the-web-archives-are-292981.php)

International News Archives. SLA News Division Web Site. (http://www.ibiblio.org/slanews/internet/intarchives.htm)

The Special Libraries Association News Division Web Team maintains this list of links to news archives. We do not have any special access privileges to the ...
www.ibiblio.org/slanews/internet/intarchives.htm - 82k - Cached (http://64.233.167.104/search?q=cache:fJx0g7TS-5kJ:www.ibiblio.org/slanews/internet/intarchives.htm+web+archives&hl=en&ct=clnk&cd=6&gl=us) - Similar pages (http://www.google.com/search?hl=en&q=related:www.ibiblio.org/slanews/internet/intarchives.htm)

Absolute Web Graphics Archive (http://www.grsites.com/webgraphics/)

Features over 10000 buttons, bullets, clipart and web graphics.
www.grsites.com/webgraphics/ - 16k - Cached (http://64.233.167.104/search?q=cache:qaEdIP6mZWIJ:www.grsites.com/webgraphics/+web+archives&hl=en&ct=clnk&cd=7&gl=us) - Similar pages (http://www.google.com/search?hl=en&q=related:www.grsites.com/webgraphics/)

Shweta
05-04-2008, 03:10 AM
Good trip, Spooky. You've already helped.

And it' s not that dire, an update on their refugee camp ( http://sunpig.com/abi/ ) says they only need things back till March 1st.

SpookyWriter
05-04-2008, 03:12 AM
Oh and don't forget to google "cache" for other services that have a respository of cached web pages.

I feel terrible for them and wish I could be of more help.

Cranky
05-04-2008, 03:17 AM
I don't understand how to help, but I do have a page of cached links from my yahoo page.

If anyone can help me sort it out, I can forward what I've got, if it's needed. Sorry I'm such a dork with this stuff and can't quite figure it out on my own.

ETA: It looks like one of my cached pages is from the Moveable Type that was mentioned...

SpookyWriter
05-04-2008, 03:20 AM
I don't understand how to help, but I do have a page of cached links from my yahoo page.

If anyone can help me sort it out, I can forward what I've got, if it's needed. Sorry I'm such a dork with this stuff and can't quite figure it out on my own.

ETA: It looks like one of my cached pages is from the Moveable Type that was mentioned...There is a TCP/IP service for retrieving cached web pages but I don't remember the syntax. Errrr....

Shweta
05-04-2008, 03:21 AM
March archives cached. (http://209.85.173.104/search?q=cache:pIYJd0JvpUoJ:nielsenhayden.com/makinglight/archives/2008_03.html+http://nielsenhayden.com/makinglight/archives/2008_03.html&hl=en&ct=clnk&cd=1&gl=us&client=firefox-a)
April archives cached (http://209.85.173.104/search?q=cache:dFIAVo9M4zIJ:nielsenhayden.com/makinglight/archives/2008_04.html+http://nielsenhayden.com/makinglight/archives/2008_04.html&hl=en&ct=clnk&cd=1&gl=us&client=firefox-a)
Main page cached (http://209.85.173.104/search?q=cache:dFIAVo9M4zIJ:nielsenhayden.com/makinglight/archives/2008_04.html+http://nielsenhayden.com/makinglight/archives/2008_04.html&hl=en&ct=clnk&cd=1&gl=us&client=firefox-a)

Cranky, if you can tell me what's unclear about my post up here (http://www.absolutewrite.com/forums/showpost.php?p=2320598&postcount=6), that'd be great.

Cranky
05-04-2008, 03:26 AM
I get what you're saying, I think, but I need someone to sort of walk me through doing it a time or two, so I understand how it works, and how exactly to do it.

Sorry, I'm kind of a kinesthetic learner, I guess. :( If it's too much trouble, I can ask my husband to show me when he gets home tonight...

Shweta
05-04-2008, 03:29 AM
I can do that if people get on on AW chat.

Cranky
05-04-2008, 03:32 AM
Okay, I'm game. :)

ETA: Or not. I'm getting a java error for the chatroom. Reloading didn't help, etc. Argh. I'm such a doofus with this stuff. Better not try, or your head will explode, Shweta! If it turns out that you guys need that page, lemme know, and we can figure something else out.

Shweta
05-04-2008, 03:37 AM
*waiting in the chat room*

SpookyWriter
05-04-2008, 03:42 AM
Google command: cache:http://www.nielsenhayden.com/makinglight/

http://72.14.205.104/search?hl=en&q=cache%3Ahttp%3A%2F%2Fwww.nielsenhayden.com%2Fmak inglight%2F


Making Light Archives
April 2008 (http://nielsenhayden.com/makinglight/archives/2008_04.html) * March 2008 (http://nielsenhayden.com/makinglight/archives/2008_03.html) * February 2008 (http://nielsenhayden.com/makinglight/archives/2008_02.html)

SpookyWriter
05-04-2008, 03:44 AM
All in one place. :D



“Where do people find the time?”
Posted by Patrick at 09:23 PM * 204 comments (http://nielsenhayden.com/makinglight/archives/010186.html#010186)
I generally hate being read to, and prefer transcripts to watching video of public speakers, but this fifteen-minute Web 2.0 talk by Clay Shirky—about gin, television, the “cognitive surplus,” and the true answer to the annoying question in the title of this post—grabbed me and wouldn’t let go. (Via Warren Ellis (http://www.warrenellis.com/?p=5885), to whom all due props.)

Transcript here (http://www.shirky.com/herecomeseverybody/2008/04/looking-for-the-mouse.html), if you really can’t deal with video. I’m currently in the middle of Shirky’s Here Comes Everybody (http://www.herecomeseverybody.org/), “a book about organizing without organizations,” which I’m finding fascinating and valuable even when I disagree. More on this later.

Open thread 106
Posted by Abi Sutherland at 04:11 PM * 183 comments (http://nielsenhayden.com/makinglight/archives/010184.html#010184)

Matera the Mad
05-04-2008, 03:59 AM
This makes me feel bad. :(

It reminds me painfully of suggestions I made in another place, that people should "adopt" threads and save things to their own hard drives and archive them on CDs and so on. No one does, of course. People are relying more and more on the Internet for their own backups, keeping their e-mail on line, everything. I want my data on redundant CDs some of which might end up buried in my back yard. Paranoia is good. My own website went up in flames once in a server meltdown. I had my own backups. That would not be easy for a larger, many-user site with a huge database.

I wish I had been to ML more often, I might have collected some good bits. I wish you all the best of luck in the salvage efforts. :(

SpookyWriter
05-04-2008, 04:00 AM
Here's another link:

http://www.gigablast.com/index.php?q=http%3A%2F%2Fnielsenhayden.com%2Fmakin glight%2F&submit.x=29&submit.y=6

SpookyWriter
05-04-2008, 04:29 AM
Bump:



Google command: cache:http://www.nielsenhayden.com/makinglight/

http://72.14.205.104/search?hl=en&q=cache%3Ahttp%3A%2F%2Fwww.nielsenhayden.com%2Fmak inglight%2F


Making Light Archives
April 2008 (http://nielsenhayden.com/makinglight/archives/2008_04.html) * March 2008 (http://nielsenhayden.com/makinglight/archives/2008_03.html) * February 2008 (http://nielsenhayden.com/makinglight/archives/2008_02.html)

Shweta
05-04-2008, 04:33 AM
I'm just gonna go through the March and April archives I found and save every thread with comments.

I can do this much, and I think I'd be better off doing it rather than explaining badly how to do it :)
If there are other useful things to do, maybe someone else should do those?

SpookyWriter
05-04-2008, 04:37 AM
I'm just gonna go through the March and April archives I found and save every thread with comments.

I can do this much, and I think I'd be better off doing it rather than explaining badly how to do it :)
If there are other useful things to do, maybe someone else should do those?
Have you tried the link I provided? Everything is there up till April 27th.

Shweta
05-04-2008, 05:11 AM
I've tried some of the links you provided, Spooky, but not all -- trying to save what I can in the ways I know and trusting other people to follow up on other aspects of the problem :)

The big question is actually -- can you get at comments in the 200s? I can get everything, and am in the process of doing so, from March and April this year -- except that I cannot get at comments past (depending on the thread) about 160-200.

SpookyWriter
05-04-2008, 05:19 AM
Use google and enter this into the search feature:


cache:http://www.nielsenhayden.com/makinglight/

Copy and paste the whole line. Everything from makinglight is cached in one location.

Good luck. I hope this helps.

Jon

Shweta
05-04-2008, 05:43 AM
Uh, did that already. I'm several steps off of that. Only, the caches don't seem to save all comments...

SpookyWriter
05-04-2008, 05:46 AM
Good luck. I don't suspect there is anymore I can do.

Shweta
05-04-2008, 05:56 AM
Not actually sure there's much more anybody can do, except with helping them pull it all back into a webpage, but I'm hoping someone can magically find late comments in threads :)

Thank you!

Shweta
05-04-2008, 06:25 AM
Here's what I just posted as a comment on the ML refugee camp techie thread.


Shweta Narayan on Sunday 4 May 2008 at 03:24

What I have saved: The numbers are (number of comments saved/total number claimed by cache).

The starred lines are ones where I have incomplete comments. I'm going to post the links here and on Absolute Write and ask other people to pretty please click them & see if they get more comments. They're in cache. I just can't get them. Not sure why.


March 1, 2008, Department of Who’s Surprised?: 66/66
March 3, 2008, Can you read this?: 53/53
March 3, 2008, All come singing: 69/69
* March 4, 2008, Greyhawk’s flags at half-staff: 199.5/253
March 11, 2008, Phase one: collect underpants: 265/265
* March 13, 2008, Open thread 103: 221/936
March 16, 2008, Literary Divination, A Parlour Game: 106/106
March 18, 2008, Arthur C. Clarke, 1917-2008: 177/177
March 20, 2008, Going to need a bigger laser: 174/174
* March 28, 2008, Open thread 104: 238.5/931
March 28, 2008, Divided by common errors: 34/34
* March 30, 2008, The photograph that terrorized London: 202.5/204
March 31, 2008, Deep Values: 434/434
---
April 1, Amsterdam: 70/70
April 4, 2008, Pity the Times: 167/167
April 4, 2008, Forty Years Gone: 70/70
* April 6, 2008, Heads they win; tails we lose: 174.5/320
April 6, 2008, Some must employ the scythe: 126/126
April 9, 2008, Don’t Miss the Deadline: 25/25
April 11, 2008, Future of Publishing, Part 5,271,009: 32/32
April 12, 2008, A book by its cover: 37/37
* April 13, 2008, Could lead to goose-stepping: 150.5/469
April 13, 2008, Bury my acorns at Wounded Knee: 87/87
* April 14, 2008, Open thread 105: 215/906
April 16, 2008, Newsweek invents an alarming trend: 217/217
April 16, 2008, Housekeeping: 7/7
April 17, 2008, Little Brother: 180/180
April 22, 2008, NBC News calls Penn for Hillary: 124/124
April 23, 2008, Live in San Francisco, it’s TNH!: 18/18
April 24, 2008, The Rather Difficult Font Game: 125/125 (yahoo cache)
April 25, 2008, Indistinguishable from parody: 152/152
April 26, 2008, Eric Clapton, White Power enthusiast: 105/105
April 26, 2008, Feeling the Heat: 32/32 (msn cache)
April 26, 2008, Teresa in the Observer: 13/13
April 26, 2008, SFWA election results: 45/45
April 27, 2008, “Where do people find the time?”: 198/198
April 27, 2008, Open thread 106: 107/107

ETA: Michael Roberts found much more recent stuff on Open Thread 106, and sent PNH 285 of 285.

Shweta
05-04-2008, 06:33 AM
Forgive me the repeat posts. Split for clarity.
If your answer is yes to questions below, please save page as some reasonable name.html
And pm or email me, or post here.

* March 4, 2008, Greyhawk’s flags at half-staff (http://www.google.com/url?sa=t&ct=clnk&cd=1&url=http%3A%2F%2F209.85.173.104%2Fsearch%3Fq%3Dcac he%3AzR0Vb9vnqVUJ%3Anielsenhayden.com%2Fmakingligh t%2Farchives%2F010028.html%2BMaking%2BLight%2BGrey hawk%25E2%2580%2599s%2Bflags%2Bat%2Bhalf-staff%26hl%3Den%26ct%3Dclnk%26cd%3D1%26gl%3Dus%26c lient%3Dfirefox-a&ei=QiAdSNaPHZjgpgSVx6XjCQ&usg=AFQjCNHq636hWSyo4WY7fD10HWLEseTW2Q&sig2=dzSZhRZQYru51cVrN-9kbg): Can anyone get further down than post 200?
* March 13, 2008, Open thread 103 (http://www.google.com/url?sa=t&ct=clnk&cd=1&url=http%3A%2F%2F209.85.173.104%2Fsearch%3Fq%3Dcac he%3Ae-OwG3IIEPYJ%3Anielsenhayden.com%2Fmakinglight%2Farc hives%2F010046.html%2BMaking%2BLight%2BOpen%2Bthre ad%2B103%26hl%3Den%26ct%3Dclnk%26cd%3D1%26gl%3Dus% 26client%3Dfirefox-a&ei=gCAdSJr1HYqopwTa193vCQ&usg=AFQjCNErXia5IgzICMxv3rM0LNl1PS0dGg&sig2=vwvibBFx9C5o-da-Bc_o1Q): Can anyone get further down than post 222?
* March 28, 2008, Open thread 104 (http://www.google.com/url?sa=t&ct=clnk&cd=1&url=http%3A%2F%2F209.85.173.104%2Fsearch%3Fq%3Dcac he%3Atmh9nuVgZ6UJ%3Anielsenhayden.com%2Fmakingligh t%2Farchives%2F010097.html%2BMaking%2BLight%2BOpen %2Bthread%2B104%26hl%3Den%26ct%3Dclnk%26cd%3D1%26g l%3Dus%26client%3Dfirefox-a&ei=BCEdSLG6FJjgpgS1x9HjCQ&usg=AFQjCNFf9hx_bB5hyEHDsaTbd-y9k2t_eg&sig2=5EdrsENS0MEoLQz_sqBVSA): Can anyone get further down than post 239?
* March 30, 2008, The photograph that terrorized London (http://209.85.173.104/search?q=cache:G5G_E9cv25UJ:nielsenhayden.com/makinglight/archives/010103.html+Making+Light+The+photograph+that+terro rized+London&hl=en&ct=clnk&cd=1&gl=us&client=firefox-a): Can anyone get down to post 204?
* April 6, 2008, Heads they win; tails we lose (http://www.google.com/url?sa=t&ct=clnk&cd=1&url=http%3A%2F%2F209.85.173.104%2Fsearch%3Fq%3Dcac he%3A8eB8wy4MBY8J%3Anielsenhayden.com%2Fmakingligh t%2Farchives%2F010125.html%2BMaking%2BLight%2BHead s%2Bthey%2Bwin%253B%2Btails%2Bwe%2Blose%26hl%3Den% 26ct%3Dclnk%26cd%3D1%26gl%3Dus%26client%3Dfirefox-a&ei=jyEdSMrfC4b6pgT967TrCQ&usg=AFQjCNE7MgagEqQWaoO_g4iNcdEp6QlN6A&sig2=4XkspRtPJBGI_S_DM0_D1w): Can anyone get further down than post 175?
* April 13, 2008, Could lead to goose-stepping (http://www.google.com/url?sa=t&ct=clnk&cd=1&url=http%3A%2F%2F209.85.173.104%2Fsearch%3Fq%3Dcac he%3AnMdy2rvFsdwJ%3Anielsenhayden.com%2Fmakingligh t%2Farchives%2F010143.html%2BMaking%2BLight%2BCoul d%2Blead%2Bto%2Bgoose-stepping%26hl%3Den%26ct%3Dclnk%26cd%3D1%26gl%3Dus% 26client%3Dfirefox-a&ei=JiIdSNa1L5m2pgTD58DuCQ&usg=AFQjCNGuJSZf_S3hRB7hnSd7Pr-EILQ3xg&sig2=GgHgQGp8KuxbuEHQaJ_5Tg): Can anyone get further down than post 151?
* April 14, 2008, Open thread 105 (http://www.google.com/url?sa=t&ct=clnk&cd=1&url=http%3A%2F%2F209.85.173.104%2Fsearch%3Fq%3Dcac he%3AgR7DDODfH4MJ%3Anielsenhayden.com%2Fmakingligh t%2Farchives%2F010146.html%2BMaking%2BLight%2BOpen %2Bthread%2B105%26hl%3Den%26ct%3Dclnk%26cd%3D1%26g l%3Dus%26client%3Dfirefox-a&ei=0yQdSOnqOoWIpAT1irHeCQ&usg=AFQjCNFGCp9Vki01_Lry5v75vxZNLSEAGA&sig2=7Qc_hoZEkyk1UCjbSAar6Q): Can anyone get further down than post 215?

Old Hack
05-04-2008, 09:51 PM
Bumping...

If I could collect cache, I would. But I can't on this horribly slow dial-up connection. Fingers crossed that Making Light is salvaged.

Shweta
05-05-2008, 02:07 AM
Update: can anyone find comments 333-386 of the "darwin fish found" thread?

I found the cache here (http://209.85.173.104/search?q=cache:t628R6ZI0T0J:nielsenhayden.com/makinglight/archives/007399.html+Making+Light+Darwin+Fish+found&hl=en&ct=clnk&cd=1&gl=us&client=firefox-a), but in my browser it bottoms out at 200.

Dawno
05-05-2008, 05:35 AM
Making Light is back up!

Shweta
05-05-2008, 10:44 AM
:hooray: