Happy Christmas!

Happy Holidays!

Welcome to the AbsoluteWrite Water Cooler! Please read The Newbie Guide To Absolute Write

editing for authors ad

A publisher or agency using Google ads to solicit your novel probably isn't anyone you want to write for.


Go Back   Absolute Write Water Cooler > Discussion > AW Roundtable
Register FAQ Calendar

Closed Thread
 
Thread Tools Display Modes
Old 10-12-2007, 02:08 AM   #1
necia phoenix
practical experience, FTW
 
necia phoenix's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jul 2007
Location: Oklahoma
Posts: 836
necia phoenix is a shiny, shiny jewelnecia phoenix is a shiny, shiny jewel
Plagiarisim train wreck in progress

Check out Lanaia Lee. She has some problems. The biggest being that she took a book that was already published changed some of the names, changed the title and self pubbed it.

Yes.

She self published it.

Here is the blog where I first heard about it. And if this is a redundant post I apologize.
__________________
Elemental Truth Edit pass 2
Elemental Storm writing
My website

necia phoenix is offline  
Old 10-12-2007, 02:16 AM   #2
WendyNYC
fiddle-dee-dee
 
WendyNYC's Avatar
 
Join Date: Sep 2007
Location: Behind you! Boo.
Posts: 2,372
WendyNYC is so great that we've run out of appropriate complimentsWendyNYC is so great that we've run out of appropriate complimentsWendyNYC is so great that we've run out of appropriate complimentsWendyNYC is so great that we've run out of appropriate complimentsWendyNYC is so great that we've run out of appropriate complimentsWendyNYC is so great that we've run out of appropriate complimentsWendyNYC is so great that we've run out of appropriate complimentsWendyNYC is so great that we've run out of appropriate complimentsWendyNYC is so great that we've run out of appropriate complimentsWendyNYC is so great that we've run out of appropriate complimentsWendyNYC is so great that we've run out of appropriate compliments
Jeez. She could have at least changed a word here and there.

That takes some chutzpah.
WendyNYC is offline  
Old 10-12-2007, 02:16 AM   #3
Bubastes
bananaed
 
Bubastes's Avatar
 
Join Date: Aug 2006
Location: oontz oontz oontz oontz
Posts: 7,304
Bubastes is so great that we've run out of appropriate complimentsBubastes is so great that we've run out of appropriate complimentsBubastes is so great that we've run out of appropriate complimentsBubastes is so great that we've run out of appropriate complimentsBubastes is so great that we've run out of appropriate complimentsBubastes is so great that we've run out of appropriate complimentsBubastes is so great that we've run out of appropriate complimentsBubastes is so great that we've run out of appropriate complimentsBubastes is so great that we've run out of appropriate complimentsBubastes is so great that we've run out of appropriate complimentsBubastes is so great that we've run out of appropriate compliments
She (or her ghost writer) didn't even manage to change the names all the way through. The name "Alexander" still shows up in the changed version.

And I'm not sure if she knew she self-pubbed it. She used an "agent" whose sales were to PublishAmerica.

If she's actually the victim of multiple scammers, I feel sorry for her.
__________________
Do what you can, with what you have, where you are. -- Theodore Roosevelt

Website | Twitter

Last edited by Bubastes; 10-12-2007 at 02:19 AM.
Bubastes is offline  
Old 10-12-2007, 02:18 AM   #4
Koobie
Super Duper Member
 
Koobie's Avatar
 
Join Date: Apr 2007
Posts: 696
Koobie is a glorious beacon of lightKoobie is a glorious beacon of lightKoobie is a glorious beacon of light
That's very durrrrrrrrr. Also, I generally get bloody annoyed by the mini-bios people write about themselves in 3rd person.
__________________
"Membranes are not castle walls
to stop the fusion between
parts of the system"
— Dóra Gabriella Sós
Koobie is offline  
Old 10-12-2007, 02:37 AM   #5
skelly
Kickin it old school, posers beware
 
skelly's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jan 2007
Location: Through the looking glass.
Posts: 2,161
skelly is so great that we've run out of appropriate complimentsskelly is so great that we've run out of appropriate complimentsskelly is so great that we've run out of appropriate complimentsskelly is so great that we've run out of appropriate complimentsskelly is so great that we've run out of appropriate complimentsskelly is so great that we've run out of appropriate complimentsskelly is so great that we've run out of appropriate complimentsskelly is so great that we've run out of appropriate complimentsskelly is so great that we've run out of appropriate compliments
I don't know why she doesn't take down her web site...she's getting trashed in her own little message board and chat-box thingie. It's an awful thing to see...
__________________
---Scott
skelly is offline  
Old 10-12-2007, 02:49 AM   #6
Tish Davidson
practical experience, FTW
 
Join Date: Feb 2005
Posts: 1,626
Tish Davidson is a splendid one to beholdTish Davidson is a splendid one to beholdTish Davidson is a splendid one to behold
Quote:
Originally Posted by MeowGirl View Post
She (or her ghost writer) didn't even manage to change the names all the way through. The name "Alexander" still shows up in the changed version.

And I'm not sure if she knew she self-pubbed it. She used an "agent" whose sales were to PublishAmerica.

If she's actually the victim of multiple scammers, I feel sorry for her.
If she submitted it, she must have known it was plagiarized, regardless of whether her "agent" or "publisher" scammed her.
Tish Davidson is offline  
Old 10-12-2007, 02:50 AM   #7
Monkey
Watching Bollywood action scenes.
 
Monkey's Avatar
 
Join Date: Apr 2007
Location: Look up!
Posts: 8,393
Monkey is so great that we've run out of appropriate complimentsMonkey is so great that we've run out of appropriate complimentsMonkey is so great that we've run out of appropriate complimentsMonkey is so great that we've run out of appropriate complimentsMonkey is so great that we've run out of appropriate complimentsMonkey is so great that we've run out of appropriate complimentsMonkey is so great that we've run out of appropriate complimentsMonkey is so great that we've run out of appropriate complimentsMonkey is so great that we've run out of appropriate complimentsMonkey is so great that we've run out of appropriate complimentsMonkey is so great that we've run out of appropriate compliments
Quote:
Of Atlantis is totally mine. I have the original manuscript, and witnesses to my work. I put two years of my life in this book, the copy right, I own. I am appalled some one would think I am that dishonesy!
That says it all, I think.

I do pity this sad woman, bound to her wheelchair, mourning the loss of ten children, raised by a dark witch, trying to gain some sort of validation by stealing other people's work.

How very sad.
__________________
-----------------------


Acoustic guitar. This is absolutely beautiful: https://lonneys.bandcamp.com/album/s...sis-in-spheres

^^ Help this guy fund a new project - and get CD's and stuff for yourself in the process.
Monkey is offline  
Old 10-12-2007, 02:54 AM   #8
necia phoenix
practical experience, FTW
 
necia phoenix's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jul 2007
Location: Oklahoma
Posts: 836
necia phoenix is a shiny, shiny jewelnecia phoenix is a shiny, shiny jewel
Like her physical issues change the fact that she is a thief.
__________________
Elemental Truth Edit pass 2
Elemental Storm writing
My website

necia phoenix is offline  
Old 10-12-2007, 03:00 AM   #9
WittyandorIronic
practical experience, FTW
 
WittyandorIronic's Avatar
 
Join Date: Oct 2007
Posts: 937
WittyandorIronic has earned our admirationWittyandorIronic has earned our admirationWittyandorIronic has earned our admirationWittyandorIronic has earned our admiration
All I can say is, Wow!
Although some of the comments on Dear Author are incredibly funny, I agree with the last ones.
1) She is either a delusional and/or incredibly gullible woman who got suckered several times over (In which case, I still have very little sympathy) OR
2) She is a raving scam artist who has abused another authors work, and offended every person even remotely connected with wheel chairs, children, stroke victims, married people, hypertension disorders, females, males, people who can read, and/or jack russell terrier owners.
That's a pretty big list to accomplish in one fell swoop.
__________________
@wityandorironic
WittyandorIronic is offline  
Old 10-12-2007, 03:09 AM   #10
wee
just a little
 
wee's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jul 2007
Posts: 338
wee is a shiny, shiny jewelwee is a shiny, shiny jewel
I love this from the "Top Ten" comments:

Quote:
If she writes from the heart, her heart must beat like this: CTRL + C, CTRL + V, CTRL + C, CTRL + V…
There is also some suggestion in the comments that Janet Dailey's work has the hint of plagiarism to it?

??!



wee
wee is offline  
Old 10-12-2007, 03:09 AM   #11
necia phoenix
practical experience, FTW
 
necia phoenix's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jul 2007
Location: Oklahoma
Posts: 836
necia phoenix is a shiny, shiny jewelnecia phoenix is a shiny, shiny jewel
Quote:
Originally Posted by WittyandorIronic View Post
All I can say is, Wow!
Although some of the comments on Dear Author are incredibly funny, I agree with the last ones.
1) She is either a delusional and/or incredibly gullible woman who got suckered several times over (In which case, I still have very little sympathy) OR
2) She is a raving scam artist who has abused another authors work, and offended every person even remotely connected with wheel chairs, children, stroke victims, married people, hypertension disorders, females, males, people who can read, and/or jack russell terrier owners.
That's a pretty big list to accomplish in one fell swoop.


**snerk**

I don't see what the point is. What gain can you have, especially in plagiarizing such a well known author.
__________________
Elemental Truth Edit pass 2
Elemental Storm writing
My website

necia phoenix is offline  
Old 10-12-2007, 03:15 AM   #12
aadams73
A Work in Progress
 
aadams73's Avatar
 
Join Date: Feb 2005
Location: Oregon
Posts: 9,926
aadams73 is so great that we've run out of appropriate complimentsaadams73 is so great that we've run out of appropriate complimentsaadams73 is so great that we've run out of appropriate complimentsaadams73 is so great that we've run out of appropriate complimentsaadams73 is so great that we've run out of appropriate complimentsaadams73 is so great that we've run out of appropriate complimentsaadams73 is so great that we've run out of appropriate complimentsaadams73 is so great that we've run out of appropriate complimentsaadams73 is so great that we've run out of appropriate complimentsaadams73 is so great that we've run out of appropriate complimentsaadams73 is so great that we've run out of appropriate compliments
Quote:
Originally Posted by wee View Post
There is also some suggestion in the comments that Janet Dailey's work has the hint of plagiarism to it?
She totally ripped off Nora Roberts a while back.
__________________

Website | Blog | Openings That Work | Twitter | Goodreads | Facebook | Google+

WHITE HORSE, coming April 17 (US/Canada), April 24 (Australia), and April 26 (UK), 2012 from Emily Bestler Books/Atria (Simon & Schuster).
aadams73 is offline  
Old 10-12-2007, 03:16 AM   #13
WittyandorIronic
practical experience, FTW
 
WittyandorIronic's Avatar
 
Join Date: Oct 2007
Posts: 937
WittyandorIronic has earned our admirationWittyandorIronic has earned our admirationWittyandorIronic has earned our admirationWittyandorIronic has earned our admiration
Wait...oh god(dess). They just added Wiccans to the mix...
See...before it was just a general "i'm disgusted to be in the same Genus as you" seeing as I don't own any jack russell terriers.... but now. Now, it's personal.
__________________
@wityandorironic
WittyandorIronic is offline  
Old 10-12-2007, 03:17 AM   #14
necia phoenix
practical experience, FTW
 
necia phoenix's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jul 2007
Location: Oklahoma
Posts: 836
necia phoenix is a shiny, shiny jewelnecia phoenix is a shiny, shiny jewel
Quote:
Originally Posted by WittyandorIronic View Post
Wait...oh god(dess). They just added Wiccans to the mix...
See...before it was just a general "i'm disgusted to be in the same Genus as you" seeing as I don't own any jack russell terriers.... but now. Now, it's personal.
what? where?

I missed that one...
__________________
Elemental Truth Edit pass 2
Elemental Storm writing
My website

necia phoenix is offline  
Old 10-12-2007, 03:17 AM   #15
shakeysix
blue eyed floozy
 
shakeysix's Avatar
 
Join Date: May 2007
Location: St. John, Kansas
Posts: 7,746
shakeysix is so great that we've run out of appropriate complimentsshakeysix is so great that we've run out of appropriate complimentsshakeysix is so great that we've run out of appropriate complimentsshakeysix is so great that we've run out of appropriate complimentsshakeysix is so great that we've run out of appropriate complimentsshakeysix is so great that we've run out of appropriate complimentsshakeysix is so great that we've run out of appropriate complimentsshakeysix is so great that we've run out of appropriate complimentsshakeysix is so great that we've run out of appropriate complimentsshakeysix is so great that we've run out of appropriate complimentsshakeysix is so great that we've run out of appropriate compliments
i am female, have hypertension, own a jack russel terrier and am preparing to be offended!--s6
shakeysix is offline  
Old 10-12-2007, 03:19 AM   #16
wee
just a little
 
wee's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jul 2007
Posts: 338
wee is a shiny, shiny jewelwee is a shiny, shiny jewel
Quote:
Originally Posted by aadams73 View Post
She totally ripped off Nora Roberts a while back.

See, I had no idea who she was. LOL. Now I know she has mental problems:
http://72.14.205.104/search?q=cache:...ient=firefox-a


Wish I could blame all my weird behavior on never-before-heard-of mental problems, but unfortunately, I'm just responsible. And I'm sorry. 'sniff.
wee is offline  
Old 10-12-2007, 03:21 AM   #17
wee
just a little
 
wee's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jul 2007
Posts: 338
wee is a shiny, shiny jewelwee is a shiny, shiny jewel
Quote:
Originally Posted by shakeysix View Post
i am female, have hypertension, own a jack russel terrier and am preparing to be offended!--s6

And quit dogging me or I'll have another stroke & there'll be blood on your hands!


wee


PS -- so sorry! I plagiarized that poor woman. Please ignore my above comment. (taken from above link)
wee is offline  
Old 10-12-2007, 03:21 AM   #18
Pat~
Luftmensch Emeritus, A.D.D.
 
Pat~'s Avatar
 
Join Date: Feb 2005
Posts: 6,818
Pat~ is so great that we've run out of appropriate complimentsPat~ is so great that we've run out of appropriate complimentsPat~ is so great that we've run out of appropriate complimentsPat~ is so great that we've run out of appropriate complimentsPat~ is so great that we've run out of appropriate complimentsPat~ is so great that we've run out of appropriate complimentsPat~ is so great that we've run out of appropriate complimentsPat~ is so great that we've run out of appropriate complimentsPat~ is so great that we've run out of appropriate complimentsPat~ is so great that we've run out of appropriate complimentsPat~ is so great that we've run out of appropriate compliments
This is truly sad, though there is a strong possibility that her stroke may have left her a bit mentally disabled as well. That might account for the lack of touch with reality she seems to evidence.
__________________
Pat

Every writer is a skater, who must go partly where he would and partly where the skates carry him… ~ Ralph Waldo Emerson

Inspiration will find you, but it must find you working. ~ Picasso

Website

Life
Pat~ is offline  
Old 10-12-2007, 03:22 AM   #19
Monkey
Watching Bollywood action scenes.
 
Monkey's Avatar
 
Join Date: Apr 2007
Location: Look up!
Posts: 8,393
Monkey is so great that we've run out of appropriate complimentsMonkey is so great that we've run out of appropriate complimentsMonkey is so great that we've run out of appropriate complimentsMonkey is so great that we've run out of appropriate complimentsMonkey is so great that we've run out of appropriate complimentsMonkey is so great that we've run out of appropriate complimentsMonkey is so great that we've run out of appropriate complimentsMonkey is so great that we've run out of appropriate complimentsMonkey is so great that we've run out of appropriate complimentsMonkey is so great that we've run out of appropriate complimentsMonkey is so great that we've run out of appropriate compliments
From her website:
Quote:
Welcome to the realm of Dark Poet Lanaia Lee. You will find on this page samples of her works, be able to purchase her books and much much more. Dare you venture into this place? Will you hear the tortured cries for help? The woeful pleading? Or the agonizing screams that will surround you at every turn? Prepare to engulf yourself into a world where Edgar Allan Poe still lives. Could Lanaia be Poes female reincarnation? Journey with us into the dark side, let us take leave of our bright, light filled world and allow Lanaia Lee to be our tour guide as we travel though realms unknown. Will we return? Can we return? Perhaps, perhaps nevermore.........
This site doesn't mention "Of Atlantis", which is wise. It's filled with poetry that I'm willing to bet is NOT plagarized. Perhaps it really was all the ghost-writer's fault.

The message board at the site linked is filled with hate mail, and the message boards at her private site are filled with spam. She's been outed, and could face charges...though I kind of doubt it.

I think the interesting part of the train wreck is probably over.
__________________
-----------------------


Acoustic guitar. This is absolutely beautiful: https://lonneys.bandcamp.com/album/s...sis-in-spheres

^^ Help this guy fund a new project - and get CD's and stuff for yourself in the process.
Monkey is offline  
Old 10-12-2007, 03:24 AM   #20
WittyandorIronic
practical experience, FTW
 
WittyandorIronic's Avatar
 
Join Date: Oct 2007
Posts: 937
WittyandorIronic has earned our admirationWittyandorIronic has earned our admirationWittyandorIronic has earned our admirationWittyandorIronic has earned our admiration
From DearAuthor.com:
"Velma
Posted: Oct 11th, 2007 at 4:18 pm
112

Things are getting more interesting: her publisher is apparently incapable of telling the difference between your blog and Making Light, and is now threatening you with lawsuits and “wiccan” tenfold retaliation there. It doesn’t bode well for Lee or Pillsbury."



God(dess)...somedays it is hard to know I share the same breath as these people, let alone that we check the same box on the religion questionnaire.... Someone really needs to come up with a way to excommunicate Wiccans from the path... Ya' know, so we could all point and say, "She was too crazy for us, sorry. You can have her back."
__________________
@wityandorironic
WittyandorIronic is offline  
Old 10-12-2007, 03:26 AM   #21
dolores haze
ageing savage
 
dolores haze's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jun 2007
Location: the sticks
Posts: 4,718
dolores haze is so great that we've run out of appropriate complimentsdolores haze is so great that we've run out of appropriate complimentsdolores haze is so great that we've run out of appropriate complimentsdolores haze is so great that we've run out of appropriate complimentsdolores haze is so great that we've run out of appropriate complimentsdolores haze is so great that we've run out of appropriate complimentsdolores haze is so great that we've run out of appropriate complimentsdolores haze is so great that we've run out of appropriate complimentsdolores haze is so great that we've run out of appropriate complimentsdolores haze is so great that we've run out of appropriate complimentsdolores haze is so great that we've run out of appropriate compliments
Quote:
Originally Posted by MeowGirl View Post
She (or her ghost writer) didn't even manage to change the names all the way through. The name "Alexander" still shows up in the changed version.

And I'm not sure if she knew she self-pubbed it. She used an "agent" whose sales were to PublishAmerica.

If she's actually the victim of multiple scammers, I feel sorry for her.

I'm leaning towards believing that this woman got totally scammed.
dolores haze is offline  
Old 10-12-2007, 03:26 AM   #22
WittyandorIronic
practical experience, FTW
 
WittyandorIronic's Avatar
 
Join Date: Oct 2007
Posts: 937
WittyandorIronic has earned our admirationWittyandorIronic has earned our admirationWittyandorIronic has earned our admirationWittyandorIronic has earned our admiration
Quote:
Originally Posted by wee View Post
And quit dogging me or I'll have another stroke & there'll be blood on your hands!
that's Mt. Blood to you, missy
__________________
@wityandorironic
WittyandorIronic is offline  
Old 10-12-2007, 03:33 AM   #23
Monkey
Watching Bollywood action scenes.
 
Monkey's Avatar
 
Join Date: Apr 2007
Location: Look up!
Posts: 8,393
Monkey is so great that we've run out of appropriate complimentsMonkey is so great that we've run out of appropriate complimentsMonkey is so great that we've run out of appropriate complimentsMonkey is so great that we've run out of appropriate complimentsMonkey is so great that we've run out of appropriate complimentsMonkey is so great that we've run out of appropriate complimentsMonkey is so great that we've run out of appropriate complimentsMonkey is so great that we've run out of appropriate complimentsMonkey is so great that we've run out of appropriate complimentsMonkey is so great that we've run out of appropriate complimentsMonkey is so great that we've run out of appropriate compliments
Quote:
I think the interesting part of the train wreck is probably over.
Quote:
Originally Posted by WittyandorIronic View Post

Things are getting more interesting: her publisher is apparently incapable of telling the difference between your blog and Making Light, and is now threatening you with lawsuits and “wiccan” tenfold retaliation there. It doesn’t bode well for Lee or Pillsbury."
I stand corrected.
__________________
-----------------------


Acoustic guitar. This is absolutely beautiful: https://lonneys.bandcamp.com/album/s...sis-in-spheres

^^ Help this guy fund a new project - and get CD's and stuff for yourself in the process.
Monkey is offline  
Old 10-12-2007, 03:33 AM   #24
Bubastes
bananaed
 
Bubastes's Avatar
 
Join Date: Aug 2006
Location: oontz oontz oontz oontz
Posts: 7,304
Bubastes is so great that we've run out of appropriate complimentsBubastes is so great that we've run out of appropriate complimentsBubastes is so great that we've run out of appropriate complimentsBubastes is so great that we've run out of appropriate complimentsBubastes is so great that we've run out of appropriate complimentsBubastes is so great that we've run out of appropriate complimentsBubastes is so great that we've run out of appropriate complimentsBubastes is so great that we've run out of appropriate complimentsBubastes is so great that we've run out of appropriate complimentsBubastes is so great that we've run out of appropriate complimentsBubastes is so great that we've run out of appropriate compliments
Quote:
Originally Posted by dolores haze View Post
I'm leaning towards believing that this woman got totally scammed.
Scammed twice. That is just so wrong.
__________________
Do what you can, with what you have, where you are. -- Theodore Roosevelt

Website | Twitter
Bubastes is offline  
Old 10-12-2007, 03:38 AM   #25
Monkey
Watching Bollywood action scenes.
 
Monkey's Avatar
 
Join Date: Apr 2007
Location: Look up!
Posts: 8,393
Monkey is so great that we've run out of appropriate complimentsMonkey is so great that we've run out of appropriate complimentsMonkey is so great that we've run out of appropriate complimentsMonkey is so great that we've run out of appropriate complimentsMonkey is so great that we've run out of appropriate complimentsMonkey is so great that we've run out of appropriate complimentsMonkey is so great that we've run out of appropriate complimentsMonkey is so great that we've run out of appropriate complimentsMonkey is so great that we've run out of appropriate complimentsMonkey is so great that we've run out of appropriate complimentsMonkey is so great that we've run out of appropriate compliments
It just occurred to me that MeowGirl's tag line applies *even more* to plagiarized work, but in a different way...
__________________
-----------------------


Acoustic guitar. This is absolutely beautiful: https://lonneys.bandcamp.com/album/s...sis-in-spheres

^^ Help this guy fund a new project - and get CD's and stuff for yourself in the process.
Monkey is offline  
Closed Thread

Bookmarks


Posting Rules
You may not post new threads
You may not post replies
You may not post attachments
You may not edit your posts

BB code is On
Smilies are On
[IMG] code is On
HTML code is Off

Forum Jump

Custom Search

If this site is helpful to you,
Please consider a voluntary subscription to defray ongoing expenses.

Buy Scrivener 2 for Mac OS X (Regular Licence)


All times are GMT +4.5. The time now is 03:50 PM.


Powered by vBulletin® Version 3.8.5
Copyright ©2000 - 2014, Jelsoft Enterprises Ltd.