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Wandering worlds
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How dare you!
What is the rule for a sentence that is both a question and an exclamation at the same time? Can you use either punctuation?
Would it be: "How dare you?" or could it be: "How dare you!" "What the hell is that thing?" "What the hell is that thing!" |
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practical experience, FTW
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Try reading these two out loud as they are written.
“How dare you?” “How dare you!” I’d pick the second one ![]() eta: Oops, I hit Post before I was done typing this up. ![]() You could also do the following: “How could you?” she exclaimed. |
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"What the hell is that thing?" seems like a question to me, so I would use the question mark.
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I am innocent of all charges.
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Yep.
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It's generally accepted that you use an exclamation mark to close a yelling, emphatic or otherwise heightened question.
You could use an interrobang, if only because its name is so wonderful. To clarify, these would all be acceptable: Where are you! What are you doing! Why are you leaving me!
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The ever absent-minded
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Take a look at this article, Using Exclamation Points in Professional Writing.
Basically, 1. Use exclamation marks sparingly! 2. Aren't combined question marks and exclamation marks obnoxious?!
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I usually use ? but sometimes both. How could you?! Or just, How could you? she yelled. Whatever I feel like at the time.
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"What!" His voice shook. "How could this happen? I can't believe it." He gripped my hand, his eyes bloodshot. Emotion! Yeah!
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I've tried that, but my editor always slaps me on the wrist and makes me change it.
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Pinkamena Diane Pie
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Are we not allowed to do ?! anymore? If not, we really need to make the interrobang more mainstream.
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Tell it like it Is
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for the first sentence, neither, and I would use a period. The preceding action and/or conversation will make it clear that the person is exclaiming.
For the second, it's a question. Use a question mark. |
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Azarath Metrion Zinthos
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I love interrobangs, but they don't frequently pop up in books. As for choosing I think it depends on which is the more meaningful sentiment. If I read, How dare you?, I would imagine a more smooth delivery. The exclamatory factory comes with the statement, but I get a sense of true offense and musing. When the exclamation point is used, I tend to only think of the shock and it comes off flat compared to the instance with the question mark.
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I'd use a question mark in that case. The phrase itself suggests to me that the speaker's voice is raised so unless they whisper it or something, I'd leave it.
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Rock-licker
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I would use a question mark for both, but italicise it for stress in 'How dare you?'
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Possibly not a real squirrel
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Yeah, but the first draft always has at least one sentence with ?!?!?!?!!! in it, right?
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Really? I agree that multiple exclamation or question marks look unprofessional, but an interrobang is perfect for expressing simultaneous disbelief and anger. To me, "What the hell were you thinking?!" reads better than "What the hell were you thinking?"
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How? I dare by calling you a guttersnipe.
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I agree with james on this point, Arc. The exclamation is unnecessary. If the events leading up to the statement have been established clearly the reader should able to infer the tone of the speaker without additional punctuation.
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Whoa, pretty strong words! Are you going to take that from her, Buffy?
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Context should clarify how words are delivered and with what intent. If an intended question is delivered it needs a question mark. How dare you - is an expression rarely, if ever, delivered as a question with the expectation of any answer.
The manner of delivery and intent of most phrases becomes unclear when they're considered in isolation.
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Punctuation exists to add emphasis to sentences where needed, or where it brings clarity. Don't be afraid to use it. Just don't over-use it (!!!!) or mis-use it. If an editor has a problem with it, they'll tell you, and if you've made the best choice, your readers won't notice your punctuation at all. Except maybe JAR.
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If it's more an exclamation than a question: exclamation point.
If it's more a question than an exclamation (that is, it really IS a question, not rhetorical): question mark. No double (or tripled, etc.) punctuations, please: !?, !!!, ???!!!!!) Unless for humorous/ironic purposes.
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