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Old 01-12-2013, 06:12 PM   #1
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Homeland Security recommends disabling Java

The Department of Homeland Security has recommended citizens disable Java due to a security bug.


I haven't heard them recommend such a thing before regarding software bugs. It seems odd to me. Anyone else?
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Old 01-12-2013, 11:55 PM   #2
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It looks legit enough that we've disabled Java on all our rigs. Oracle doesn't have a patch for this. I'm really surprised there isn't more buzz about it, since it's on all the major news sources.
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I'm not sure what the vulnerability is about, but here is how to disable java

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They're about three months behind Apple and Microsoft.

Don't confuse Java, used to run applications in a Web browser, with JavaScript. JavaScript is OK.

Keep in mind that if you use Star Chat to chat, you'll need to re-enable Java before you can use it or other Java applets.
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Oracle have seriously dropped the ball these last few months.
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From what I read apparently this is just one of many vulnerabilities in java. Disabling is a must now.

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I checked my Windows 7 Firefox and it was already disabled thankfully. I went ahead and disabled the entire plugin just in case. The plugin was missing on my Mint laptop too.

https://addons.mozilla.org/en-US/firefox/blocked/p182

Java Plugin 7 update 10 and lower (click-to-play), Windows has been blocked for your protection.

Why was it blocked?The Java plugin is causing significant security problems. All users are strongly recommended to keep the plugin disabled unless necessary.Who is affected?All users who have these versions of the plugin installed in Firefox 17 and above.What does this mean? The problematic add-on or plugin will be automatically disabled and no longer usable.
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Which is all good and fine, but since when does Homeland Security start issuing such warnings? That is what seems odd to me.
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Does this apply everywhere or just in America?
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Odd that it's not been publicised over here then.
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Odd that it's not been publicised over here then.
Why would your tabloid reporters publicize something when doing so would make it harder for them to hack into people's computers?
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The Guardian covered it back in August. (The BBC, oddly, seems to have avoided any mention of it.)
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Which is all good and fine, but since when does Homeland Security start issuing such warnings? That is what seems odd to me.
After they got affected by the hole, I expect.

A number of the IT lists I'm on started coverage of this in May.

There were problems with large deployments at some schools even before that, especially on Windows but on OS X too.

The updates and variations started confusing even professionals.

The army started issuing cautions about deploying jave apps even before that, as did Apple.

They are again, like TSA theater, going about it wrong.
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Oracle says they will fix the problem "shortly."
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Oracle Corp said it is preparing an update to address a flaw in its widely used Java software after the U.S. Department of Homeland Security urged computer users to disable the program in web browsers because criminal hackers are exploiting a security bug to attack PCs.

"A fix will be available shortly," the company said in a statement released late on Friday.

Company officials could not be reached on Saturday to say how quickly the update would be available for the hundreds of millions of PCs that have Java installed.

The Department of Homeland Security and computer security experts said on Thursday that hackers figured out how to exploit the bug in a version of Java used with Internet browsers to install malicious software on PCs. That has enabled them to commit crimes from identity theft to making an infected computer part of an ad-hoc computer network that can be used to attack websites.
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Thanks, Medi.

Shadow Dragon, thanks for the Chicago Tribune's article.

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Using the bug to commandeer individual computers to make a network to attack websites brings the scope up to the point I see the reason for Homeland Security to get involved. I couldn't see their reasoning before now.
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Looks like Oracle is finally getting this patched.
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I don't know; the comments are kind of pessimistic about the patch. I never realized just how much of my web experience was made possible and/or easier by Java until I shut it off for Firefox.* (I have Java 6.something on my hard drive, so my IE is all right-ish.) I desperately want to turn Java back on, but I want to know if it's worth it. *For one thing the freaking smiley menu won't open. For another thing, my post is formatting weirdly.
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I don't know; the comments are kind of pessimistic about the patch. I never realized just how much of my web experience was made possible and/or easier by Java until I shut it off for Firefox.* (I have Java 6.something on my hard drive, so my IE is all right-ish.) I desperately want to turn Java back on, but I want to know if it's worth it. *For one thing the freaking smiley menu won't open. For another thing, my post is formatting weirdly.
You've confused Java with JavaScript.

JavaScript is used by more than half the Web sites on the 'net. Including this one; that's why your're having trouble formatting and using pop-up menus. If you clicked a clicky box in your Web browser, you've turned off Java Script, not Java.

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You've confused Java with JavaScript.

JavaScript is used by more than half the Web sites on the 'net. Including this one; that's why your're having trouble formatting and using pop-up menus. If you clicked a clicky box in your Web browser, you've turned off Java Script, not Java.
Java Script was turned off in Firefox! Thanks for the tip.
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At this point I would just leave it disabled, and turn it on on an as needed basis. Oracle will just leave the next security hole unattended for as long as they can as well.
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