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Cultus Gopherus MacAllister
Join Date: Feb 2005
Location: žone že in meoduhealle
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Well, it did make me go read the excerpts and that made me order the book, so I figure something worked.
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Wayward Wordsmith
Join Date: Aug 2010
Location: Seattle, WA -- land of rain, home of the spice caffeine
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I feel like I should thank TWA for giving me a good reading list.
...wait, that was supposed to be a boycott list? My bad.
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Writer Beware's Faithful Igor
Join Date: Mar 2005
Location: Central Maryland
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Amazing how that little mistake keeps getting made.
Ah, the wonderful sound of publicity. Please, please boycott me too! |
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Skulduggery and haberdashery
Join Date: Feb 2009
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Your Genial Uncle
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Join Date: Feb 2005
Location: New Hampshire
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Heck, I've been giving away excerpts on my webpage since 1996.
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INTP
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Join Date: Feb 2010
Location: the everlasting universe of things
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I made the list for retweeting Yog's Law a while back.
Hey, if I'm a bad guy for stating I believe writers should get paid for their work, well heck, that's a black hat I'm absolutely willing to wear (-:
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Wayward Wordsmith
Join Date: Aug 2010
Location: Seattle, WA -- land of rain, home of the spice caffeine
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In what world does retweeting Yog's Law qualify as hostile to writers? I mean, I know this didn't make sense anyway, but that...
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Your Genial Uncle
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Join Date: Feb 2005
Location: New Hampshire
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Scammers absolutely hate Yog's Law: Money flows toward the author.
Observe vanity-pressmeister Richard Tate foaming at the mouth over the thought that publishers should pay authors rather than the other way around: http://absolutewrite.com/forums/show...postcount=1413 (my comments interspersed--Doctor Dick didn't release my comment on his blog (wonder why)).
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Wayward Wordsmith
Join Date: Aug 2010
Location: Seattle, WA -- land of rain, home of the spice caffeine
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No, I know the scammers hate the Law... what bewilders me is how any group that purports to be defending writers could claim with a straight face that Yog's Law is is hostile to writers, or that anyone would believe that it was.
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Call me Fiona.
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Join Date: Jun 2005
Location: Ogrey Swampland
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My local branch of John Lewis (a wonderful UK department store chain, for those of you who don't know it) gives away free samples of curtain material for colour matching.
I guess they should be on the list too.
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Shouting from the Rooftops
Join Date: Jun 2009
Location: West Madlands UK
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Author-hitlists -- you just know you've GOT to read their wok now.
![]() I love how that site gives off full names in their list, and yet they hide behind a site name. Got real balls, don't they?
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practical experience, FTW
Join Date: Jun 2011
Location: Manchester UK
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I am finding this thread so amusing. I love it when publicity goes the opposite way than intended... don't they know the old PR maxim of 'anything you ban becomes instantly desirable'?
I mean tobacco and alcohol have been benefitting from this one for decades.
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The Girl in the Steampunk Hat
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Join Date: Feb 2005
Location: Non carborundum illegitimi
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I've RTd Yog's Law too. What am I, chopped liver?
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Caped Codder
Join Date: Sep 2010
Location: In MA, USA, across from a 17th century cemetery
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I don't get the part about sending their boycott list to libraries. Most librarians, no matter where they're located, are rather fond of allowing books - all books, any sort of books, no matter the philosophy or ideas they espouse - be available for the public to peruse and borrow. I know of one library - small, middle-class town - that regularly displays so-called 'banned books' in the hopes that the citizenry will read them. I was just a kid when a librarian told me that 'A Catcher in the Rye' would be a good choice for my book report. (We'd already read it in class, I told her.) And this was the 1960's.
So this part I do not comprehend ... |
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practical experience, FTW
Join Date: Jun 2011
Location: Manchester UK
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I think most libraries have thier own policies for which books they stock (like one I used to go to seemed to have the policy of only stock the second book in any trilogy... no idea why
) and resent being told what to order. So you may be right...
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Your Genial Uncle
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Join Date: Feb 2005
Location: New Hampshire
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I seriously doubt that this "Write Agenda" person has actually sent a list to anyone.
All crazy-talk, no action.
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Cultus Gopherus MacAllister
Join Date: Feb 2005
Location: žone že in meoduhealle
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Such a list would immediately encourage most librarians to order the books in question.
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The 1st Rule of Write Club: Write!
Join Date: Jul 2010
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We should all retweet Yog's Law today. It'll be a tweet in!
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Smoking Monkey Smart Arse
AW Moderator
Join Date: Nov 2006
Location: Where it rains. Eternally.
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Done.
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practical experience, FTW
Join Date: Jun 2011
Location: Manchester UK
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Is there an official version of Yog's law or do we just tweet it anyway we want?
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MacAllister's Official Minion & Greeter
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Join Date: Jan 2011
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My tweet from yesterday:
Opposition to Yog's Law simply means your business model is "Money flows AWAY from the writer." Say whut?!?! |
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Mostly Harmless
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Join Date: Feb 2005
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From the mouth of Yog hisownself in post #58: "Money flows toward the author."
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Geekzilla
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Join Date: May 2009
Location: inside the machine
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My version of Yog's Law is "Real men don't pay."
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The British Comics Database is growing. Or mutating. I'm not quite sure which, yet. |
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Cultus Gopherus MacAllister
Join Date: Feb 2005
Location: žone že in meoduhealle
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Come up with a hash tag, and let's do this!
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Cultus Gopherus MacAllister
Join Date: Feb 2005
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The Official Yog's Law Page is here: http://www.sff.net/people/yog/
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