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Old 03-03-2011, 08:24 AM   #3376
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Bloody hell, I can't pitch in person for my life. Definitely have to work on that. I have 4 at the moment, with the 5th on the way. I'll be finished it in a few days. One thing I think I have going for me is they're all pretty remarkably different from each other, lol.
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I think I need to go back to the drawing board for query and pages. I'm so frustrated, trying to wait for some feedback but I think the poor response is feedback enough.
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Old 03-03-2011, 05:12 PM   #3379
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Old 03-03-2011, 05:22 PM   #3380
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Oh, I have to participate. It's a working meeting - LOTS of work, and I inevitably end up doing most of it. (Because I'm a good worker and don't go off checking email or scheduling phone calls during the time. Grr.) It does get me away from obsessively checking email or thinking about my WIP though. All data, all the time.
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Old 03-03-2011, 05:53 PM   #3382
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Old 03-03-2011, 06:01 PM   #3383
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Mario, Princess, would you say it's harder to get a screenplay produced (published?) than a novel? I"m thinking yes....God help me, but I"m thinking yes *crying for Princess and Mario*

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Old 03-03-2011, 07:08 PM   #3384
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Old 03-03-2011, 08:10 PM   #3385
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I'm one of the weirdest writers, I swear. I actually don't mind pitching. I got involved with a website that helps writers practice pitching too. PM or Rep if you want the site. (You can see my big round face this week in a video pitch)

I know some people don't think pitching is useful. But, honestly, if nothing else, it hones your skills in talking about your book. So, getting the word out, meeting people, getting the hook for your book, blurbing, etc. I think its helpful. *shrugs*
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Old 03-03-2011, 08:21 PM   #3386
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BTW, I find it kinda cool that I got a email pdf form rejection letter for a snail mail query+pages I sent out. I don't do the SASE anymore and simply rely on silence as rejection.
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The one thing I really find helpful about queries and pitches is there's so little room to describe your book it really REALLY helps you focus on your plot. As much as I hate queries (and trust me, I HATE queries) I find that now when I'm in the early days of plotting a WIP I think of the concept in terms of a query...it helps me focus on the real plot and not get mixed up on whether or not a strong side plot is the actual plot.
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Old 03-03-2011, 09:05 PM   #3388
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Good points, Soulcascade. Looking at a story from a pitch/query standpoint helps you boil the story down to it's essence.
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That's a really good idea, Soul! I never thought of it that way. I always do the query/pitch after the revisions are done. But, maybe I'll try it beforehand for my WIP. Hmm... ideas...
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I would say probably yes. Cause even if you get lucky enough to have it bought, the odds are still against it ever being produced.
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Old 03-03-2011, 11:13 PM   #3391
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Mario, Princess, would you say it's harder to get a screenplay produced (published?) than a novel? I"m thinking yes....God help me, but I"m thinking yes *crying for Princess and Mario*
I used to work in the film industry. Yes, absolutely.
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That's what I figured Princess and OL....and OL, since you have been on both sides of the fence and drug through both hell holes, you'd def. know. WOW. that's all I can say. You guys are brave to even attempt it! It feels like trying to get my novel published like beating my head against a brick wall, and it's not nearly as tough as what you guys are doing...
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That's what I figured Princess and OL....and OL, since you have been on both sides of the fence and drug through both hell holes, you'd def. know. WOW. that's all I can say. You guys are brave to even attempt it! It feels like trying to get my novel published like beating my head against a brick wall, and it's not nearly as tough as what you guys are doing...
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That's sort of why I chose to publish a bunch of short stories on the kindle. So I can include in the query "see! See! people want to read my stuff! SEE!!! PLEASE GOD SEE!!!!!!!!!!!" Or something like that...
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Leigh, I think you missed some rejections, depression, and malaise. OK, now you're caught up.
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Exactly Leigh! That's exactly it! But I donno, your depression smiley doesn't seem very depressed
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