Purgatory's Pit of Doom

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Thanks for the welcome back!

I'm actually doing soft of okay, but I kept thinking of everyone and thought I'd pop in. Not sorry to be here at all! If it's the pits, then I'm in good company.

In a way, I've been crawling out of a personal pit. Things are looking up!

Cricket - your avatar makes me laugh. Cute.
 

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Huzzah, Red -- unless the dog kibble is for you to eat, in which case, you need to aim higher, woman.

...the books I write are really hard to sell these days.

I may envy the dogs before this month is over. Their kibble at least has meat in it. I'm staring down a whole lot of rice and beans and potatoes.

And that's what I'm always telling myself. Yeah...see, the books I write are just hard to sell these days. That's all. :D

Howdy folks. I've been gone so long I almost feel like a noob again. Was posting in OPWFT for a while.

Bummer. Whenever people disappear out of the Pit, I always hope* they've moved up and on. Sorry to see you back here in our wallowing embrace, but you're always welcome.

*I wish we had a smiley of some poor little guy chasing a butterfly over a cliff.
 

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I hope things turn around for you, Red. But I also know you've got the strength of character to pull through anything.

Hi Steve!

And seriously, I'm doing better than I was. Losing the 9-5 has taught me a lot of things. I'm working freelance here and there and I've started to self-pub those trunked manuscripts (hope that's not a dirty word here).

Anyway, we've learned to live on a lot less, and frankly, that's a good thing. It's nice to 'see' familiar faces. It's comforting.
 

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Hi Ghost! There are no dirty words here (except things like "hope" and "joy"). Your book looks really good and seems to be doing really well too. Justme from Purgatory self-pubbed for Kindle and her books are doing great too, and Leigh is about to give it a whirl.
 

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Kellion - there are actually a lot of names in the indie world that I recognize from AW. I tend to tread lightly, though.

The book is actually doing quite well, or so I'm told. I think the next will do better. Well, I hope. Ooops! There's that word!:)

So, what's everyone working on?
 

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Uh, I was just over on QT. A girl has 3 offers on her ms, a fourth offer pending. Okay, that's fine...but an agent (unnamed) is FLYING out to the midwest tomorrow to meet her.

Wow....
 

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Cricket, this is so depressing to me. I don't want agents to fly out to meet me. I just want them to read my manuscript, but it feels like this all or nothing game and I am one of the losers.
 

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Cricket, this is so depressing to me. I don't want agents to fly out to meet me. I just want them to read my manuscript, but it feels like this all or nothing game and I am one of the losers.

I'm just in shock. And I'm dying to know who the agent is, although I have a hunch. It does feel all or nothing.

*digs deeper into the Pit*
 

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Seriously? I didn't even know that was possible.
Why is it all or nothing?
Oh, despair! *kicks dirt*
 

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Guys, I feel bad. I didn't mean to bring you all down. (Not that we have far to go.) It somehow made me feel crappy, so I thought I'd share, but....sorry. :(
 

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(((Kellion))) Sorry about the partial R.

*tacklehugs Ghost* Sorry to see you popping in here.

Cricket, WTF? Flying to meet her???

Home from my trip and exhausted, but wanted to say hi to everyone.
 
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It's not your fault, Cricket. And to be reasonable, it is not all or nothing. It's frustrating to see agents who have ignored me swarm like that, but it's not the norm, and I shouldn't judge my own success (or lack thereof) against an outlier. There are many writers who we know (who are even on this board) who are working hard and succeeding at reaching agents, publishers, and/or readers on their own terms.
 

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Soul <3 :)

Leigh, beach glass all the way! Love it.

(((Pit))) I think we should start the form R business today.

Good news? I feel better. Got another R, but hey, health is key.
I'm Sooo behind >.<

With this being unanimous, maybe I should tell you guys when I finish the shoulder blanket. The cotton is supposed to be super soft too!.
 

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Kellion I agree with Octavia in that you should start writing and see where it goes. YA voices are all across the board - IMHO it's more a target audience designation than a 'voice' you know?

I'm sort of learning this too. I have a story that is meant to be YA, but it's sort of, uh, grown up for kids teen-agers I think. But I'm saving my final thoughts for when it's done.
 

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Hi Ghost! There are no dirty words here (except things like "hope" and "joy"). Your book looks really good and seems to be doing really well too. Justme from Purgatory self-pubbed for Kindle and her books are doing great too, and Leigh is about to give it a whirl.

Oh? Do we have another epub-er amongst us?
 

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I hope things turn around for you, Red. But I also know you've got the strength of character to pull through anything.

Hi Steve!

And seriously, I'm doing better than I was. Losing the 9-5 has taught me a lot of things. I'm working freelance here and there and I've started to self-pub those trunked manuscripts (hope that's not a dirty word here).

Anyway, we've learned to live on a lot less, and frankly, that's a good thing. It's nice to 'see' familiar faces. It's comforting.
Rep me your Kindle/Smashwords page! I'd love to read your stuff!
 

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Cricket, no worries. If you can't bring this sort of thing to the pit, where can you?

I wonder what goods the author has that they all want. Is there any indication what kind of book? Midwest, you say... is it 0pr@h writing under a pen name? :)

I agree, Kellion, it really isn't "all or nothing." It just feels like it sometimes. I've accepted I'm not the kind of writer that is ever going to be that golden ring that agents are all chasing after. My stories are either quiet or dark in a way that is perceived as depressing. *shrug* I'm just betting on that it only takes one business. Somebody else can have the bidding war and agent flying halfway across the country to persuade them. I just want my one.
 

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Totally on the same page with you, Octavia. It does feel personal when agents don't think your work, characters, or voice are something ordinary, normal humans would relate to -- I think a lot of us on this board have heard variations of that. But surely we're not the only book-loving misanthropes in the world, right? We're human too.
 

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I always thought that was just a pipe dream, that the agent would fly in from Hollywood on the agency Gulfstream and have a meeting with you. In New England. In January. :ROFL: Hey, I live right next to a luxury jet airpark!
Speaking of Hollywood, I got back from there a couple of days ago. The trip back was a nightmare - a true Pit of purgatory. 17 hours of travel with food poisoning, plus a hacking cough I most likely picked up at the skanky motel I stayed at in Van Nuys? Horrible. I had to call in sick to work my first day back, and of course my bosses are going to be assholes about that.
I was in LA for the Turner Classic Film Festival, which had it's moments - seeing awesome old movies restored on the big screen at Grauman's was really cool. The Boulevard itself is a big tourist trap, though, and I had to spend more time there than I would have liked. LA is amazing - the infrastructure is hugely dependent on cars, and no one knows how to drive. After 3 days I felt so overwhelmed by it all - I must be getting old, or maybe being out there dulls the romantic veneer of the place.
And as a script writer I'm constantly told you HAVE to live there. You can query by eMail with the rest of the amateurs, but no one will read them (luckily I found out differently). You can't live in NYC where you have connections and friends, you have to move to LA. And I always bought into that, but now I think moving there can't happen.
Anyway, I'm trying to be Pittish as possible :) I did pass by the Writer's Lot and the CAA building - I'm very nerdy in my choice of landmarks. I know they can afford to fly a Lear Jet at a moment's notice. Hell, some of the porn manufacturers work in nicer buildings than mine. (Don't judge.:gone:)
Sorry for the long ramble. It was an educational trip, at least, and it was an adventurous vacation. I'm due for a relaxing vacation now.
 
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LA is amazing - the infrastructure is hugely dependent on cars, and no one knows how to drive.

Another good one! Too true. Glad it was educational, sorry you got sick.
 

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Mario, sounds like a good trip -- lots of insights, except for the crummy trip home. (((Mario))) for that part.
 
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