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Re: Check This Out
It is certainly odd that that PA has managed to continue on it's way, unimpeded in spite of all our efforts to stop it. Other publishers who have done some of this, have been brought down, the law actually goes after them. Why is PA getting away from the fire, are they wearing asbestos suits?
I know what we would all like for Christmas this year. Even those of us who have moved on with our writing, and want to forget we ever had any dealings with PA, find that hard to do. The wounds don't heal, the scars don't fade, and we can't forget.
Will any of us ever get justice? I am beginning to wonder. I had to change my name, my book, all because of the problems caused by PA. But I am not giving up, on my writing career. I have faith in my writing, though PA banged it up a little.
I wish you all a happy Thanksgiving.
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A old friend, same heart just a new name....
It is certainly odd that that PA has managed to continue on it's way, unimpeded in spite of all our efforts to stop it. Other publishers who have done some of this, have been brought down, the law actually goes after them. Why is PA getting away from the fire, are they wearing asbestos suits?
I know what we would all like for Christmas this year. Even those of us who have moved on with our writing, and want to forget we ever had any dealings with PA, find that hard to do. The wounds don't heal, the scars don't fade, and we can't forget.
Will any of us ever get justice? I am beginning to wonder. I had to change my name, my book, all because of the problems caused by PA. But I am not giving up, on my writing career. I have faith in my writing, though PA banged it up a little.
I wish you all a happy Thanksgiving.
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A old friend, same heart just a new name....
Re: Hmmm?
Thanks, Dave:
You know what? This “so-called” Carl Ross that’s been posting on the PW MB has turned out to be undeniably boorish (using kind jargon here), hasn’t he…or she? I smell the blood of PA staffers at work. The peons of PA are apparently slaving for the love of their master…whoopee.
Never fear. I’ve got another post up my sleeve.
My heart feels for you, Velena. It would seem that PA fancies pain for their victims, no matter what the cost. Glad to know you’re on your way, though. Keep up the good work.
<img border=0 src="http://www.ezboard.com/images/emoticons/happy.gif" />Dave, Velena, Publishorperish…Happy Thanksgiving!
Thanks, Dave:
You know what? This “so-called” Carl Ross that’s been posting on the PW MB has turned out to be undeniably boorish (using kind jargon here), hasn’t he…or she? I smell the blood of PA staffers at work. The peons of PA are apparently slaving for the love of their master…whoopee.
Never fear. I’ve got another post up my sleeve.
My heart feels for you, Velena. It would seem that PA fancies pain for their victims, no matter what the cost. Glad to know you’re on your way, though. Keep up the good work.
<img border=0 src="http://www.ezboard.com/images/emoticons/happy.gif" />Dave, Velena, Publishorperish…Happy Thanksgiving!
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Hi Tim,
Welcome aboard. We all have suffered deeply. Who would understand us better than our fellow writers? Certainly none of the people who could help us.
Like most here my pain is on-going. People have gone out of their way to hurt me, because of my book, and what PA did to it. Didn't want to change my name either.Have PA to thank for so much pain as many here have. Been on the boards quite a while, good people here, and the support is great. I found my book is still for sale too. The stores ignore me when I tell them to stop.
Right now it's like a giant bonfire, and we the authors are the tinder that is burning, and PA is feeding it kerosene. People stand around, watching. But none lift a finger to save anyone, it's the case of...it's only authors, what do they matter.
In this country it appears that there is only justice for people with money, PA has it, we don't. Only famous and rich seem to get any serious attention to their complaints.
An old friend, with a new name....
Hi Tim,
Welcome aboard. We all have suffered deeply. Who would understand us better than our fellow writers? Certainly none of the people who could help us.
Like most here my pain is on-going. People have gone out of their way to hurt me, because of my book, and what PA did to it. Didn't want to change my name either.Have PA to thank for so much pain as many here have. Been on the boards quite a while, good people here, and the support is great. I found my book is still for sale too. The stores ignore me when I tell them to stop.
Right now it's like a giant bonfire, and we the authors are the tinder that is burning, and PA is feeding it kerosene. People stand around, watching. But none lift a finger to save anyone, it's the case of...it's only authors, what do they matter.
In this country it appears that there is only justice for people with money, PA has it, we don't. Only famous and rich seem to get any serious attention to their complaints.
An old friend, with a new name....
Ya'll need to take heart...
....we are making progress. The article in Publisher's Weekly is huge exposure, and will only fan the anti PA flames more and more. From what I gather more and more PA authors are visiting these boards, formal complaints are being filed, bottom line, there is progress being made. Sure, we all wish for it to have happened yesterday, but the fact is that it is happening, and a sure momentum is building. Every truthful post, every letter send to an agency, every bit of info we get out there helps. Frankly, I think we are on the cusp of busting PA up like a grape, and I also subscribe to the school of thought that says that if you have your foot on someone's neck, you need to apply even more pressure. Folks, we just need to keep the heat turned up high on PA, it's a house of cards just waiting to be toppled....
....we are making progress. The article in Publisher's Weekly is huge exposure, and will only fan the anti PA flames more and more. From what I gather more and more PA authors are visiting these boards, formal complaints are being filed, bottom line, there is progress being made. Sure, we all wish for it to have happened yesterday, but the fact is that it is happening, and a sure momentum is building. Every truthful post, every letter send to an agency, every bit of info we get out there helps. Frankly, I think we are on the cusp of busting PA up like a grape, and I also subscribe to the school of thought that says that if you have your foot on someone's neck, you need to apply even more pressure. Folks, we just need to keep the heat turned up high on PA, it's a house of cards just waiting to be toppled....
Re: More PA woes, straight from a PA author's mouth...
Isn't time for this PublishAmerica thing to go away? Boring! All Words, No Appreciable Results.
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Isn't time for this PublishAmerica thing to go away? Boring! All Words, No Appreciable Results.
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If it's boring...
...why are you here in the first place? And is there any pro PA person out there who actually uses their real name when they post something?
...why are you here in the first place? And is there any pro PA person out there who actually uses their real name when they post something?
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Well... Think about it... CSI... What does that stand for? There has been No Crime. Thusly, No Crime Scene. Therefore, No Investigation.
Cold Case!:hat
Well... Think about it... CSI... What does that stand for? There has been No Crime. Thusly, No Crime Scene. Therefore, No Investigation.
Cold Case!:hat
Right now, it just stands for yet another PA poster...
....who doesn't want anyone to know who they are. And if PA has done nothing wrong, why is Publisher's Weekly interested enough to do an article?
....who doesn't want anyone to know who they are. And if PA has done nothing wrong, why is Publisher's Weekly interested enough to do an article?
Re: Right now, it just stands for yet another PA poster...
Any Pubbing, Good or Bad is Pubbing. P/W is doing a P/A a FAVOR!!!
Get A Grip!:hat
Any Pubbing, Good or Bad is Pubbing. P/W is doing a P/A a FAVOR!!!
Get A Grip!:hat
Re: Right now, it just stands for yet another PA poster...
Dave, Ed, everyone:
Here's what I just posted on PW...enjoy.
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Before I begin, I’d like to take this moment to personally thank Mr. Zeitchik for taking the time to show his love for the written word by his noble actions.
So on behalf of all those that e-mailed you (and even those that didn’t know to), I just want to say thank you, Mr. Zeitchik. You may very well have saved many writers from making the same mistake that we made.
And now…on to the business at hand:
Carl—or whoever you are—it’s apparent that you don’t understand where us x-PA authors are coming from because it would seem that you have no affiliation with them yourself. So I can’t understand why you’d want to waste your time supporting a company that you’re not even dealing with. It makes no sense at all…unless you work for them, that is…do you?
It doesn’t matter, however, your remarks are a futile attempt to alter the truth. And the truth is evident: PA is nothing but a scam…a virus that infects as many hapless victims as possible.
It seems that the owner of PA doesn’t care whether or not a book is marketed properly, but rather that a book is held captive. That appears to be the true nature of PA. If so, then my book is a prisoner of war, and it’s time to send in a rescue squad.
But to answer your question as to “why didn’t we go with Harper Collins”—et cetera—instead of PA, then here’s my reply: at least the one that applies to me.
I’ve copied and pasted this directly from my personal Web site to save time, Carl. I figured that if I saved time by coping and pasting, then it would give me more time to write. You seem to be very concerned about that, Carl. Or is it that you possibly work for PA and now fear that your master is looming over you, watching your every move…displeased with your mundane efforts to thwart the Rebellion? Tread lightly, Carl…the Dark Side beckons.
Anyway…
…In June of 2003, a Maryland based company labeled PublishAmerica, published my first novel, Twisted Oak: Eyes of discernment. However, I had been searching for a legitimate publisher about a year or so earlier, but found roadblocks around every corner due primarily to the events of 9/11—largely because of the anthrax scare. The reason was either because of what I just mentioned or the fact that an agent was needed to handle any and all queries and negotiations. At that time, I didn't have an agent (still don't), and I knew very little about the publishing industry.
Nevertheless, after scrutinizing their Web site for about a week or so, I decided that PublishAmerica was the "Real McCoy", as they say. I was unfortunately mistaken as were/are many, many others…
And if you must know, Carl…everyone that’s read my book has thoroughly enjoyed it…at least, thus far.
In fact, here’s just one out of many reviews that I’ve received for all of the arduous writing that I wrought so long ago.
Full Review by author Nancy Jackson
Twisted Oak is a gripping and fast-paced Christian horror novel that will certainly keep you up at night. There is more than just suspense to this story; it is also dripping with eerie atmosphere and dark descriptive settings. From murder to demons to nightmarish imagery, this book grabs you from the first page.
This was not a normal read for me and I was pleasantly surprised by author Tim Johnson’s poetic style of writing. Each character was given ample description and emotion, easily bringing you into their world. What I liked best was the intense speed of the story, not once did I feel any part was drawn out or overdone, as I have often encountered in some horror books. From the cover to a detailed map of the places mentioned in the story, to the dark photos within, it is a well thought out and intelligent piece of literature…
This was just part of Nancy’s review. You can read the rest at www.timjohnsonsbooks.com. And no, Nancy is not connected with PA in any way, shape, or form…last I heard, anyway.
Don’t worry, Carl, all of this info is being seen by those that count. And I’m confident that they realize whose being sincere. And I’m confident that they can tell the difference between a writer and a wannabe.
—Tim Johnson
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CSI,
It's okay. I know what it's like to work nightshift. I work rotational shift work myself. But, Gee, working at PA on nightshift must really be boring. Coffee anyone?
All right, I've got dayshift in the morning. Someone else will have to take it from here.
Goodnight, folks.
Dave, Ed, everyone:
Here's what I just posted on PW...enjoy.
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Before I begin, I’d like to take this moment to personally thank Mr. Zeitchik for taking the time to show his love for the written word by his noble actions.
So on behalf of all those that e-mailed you (and even those that didn’t know to), I just want to say thank you, Mr. Zeitchik. You may very well have saved many writers from making the same mistake that we made.
And now…on to the business at hand:
Carl—or whoever you are—it’s apparent that you don’t understand where us x-PA authors are coming from because it would seem that you have no affiliation with them yourself. So I can’t understand why you’d want to waste your time supporting a company that you’re not even dealing with. It makes no sense at all…unless you work for them, that is…do you?
It doesn’t matter, however, your remarks are a futile attempt to alter the truth. And the truth is evident: PA is nothing but a scam…a virus that infects as many hapless victims as possible.
It seems that the owner of PA doesn’t care whether or not a book is marketed properly, but rather that a book is held captive. That appears to be the true nature of PA. If so, then my book is a prisoner of war, and it’s time to send in a rescue squad.
But to answer your question as to “why didn’t we go with Harper Collins”—et cetera—instead of PA, then here’s my reply: at least the one that applies to me.
I’ve copied and pasted this directly from my personal Web site to save time, Carl. I figured that if I saved time by coping and pasting, then it would give me more time to write. You seem to be very concerned about that, Carl. Or is it that you possibly work for PA and now fear that your master is looming over you, watching your every move…displeased with your mundane efforts to thwart the Rebellion? Tread lightly, Carl…the Dark Side beckons.
Anyway…
…In June of 2003, a Maryland based company labeled PublishAmerica, published my first novel, Twisted Oak: Eyes of discernment. However, I had been searching for a legitimate publisher about a year or so earlier, but found roadblocks around every corner due primarily to the events of 9/11—largely because of the anthrax scare. The reason was either because of what I just mentioned or the fact that an agent was needed to handle any and all queries and negotiations. At that time, I didn't have an agent (still don't), and I knew very little about the publishing industry.
Nevertheless, after scrutinizing their Web site for about a week or so, I decided that PublishAmerica was the "Real McCoy", as they say. I was unfortunately mistaken as were/are many, many others…
And if you must know, Carl…everyone that’s read my book has thoroughly enjoyed it…at least, thus far.
In fact, here’s just one out of many reviews that I’ve received for all of the arduous writing that I wrought so long ago.
Full Review by author Nancy Jackson
Twisted Oak is a gripping and fast-paced Christian horror novel that will certainly keep you up at night. There is more than just suspense to this story; it is also dripping with eerie atmosphere and dark descriptive settings. From murder to demons to nightmarish imagery, this book grabs you from the first page.
This was not a normal read for me and I was pleasantly surprised by author Tim Johnson’s poetic style of writing. Each character was given ample description and emotion, easily bringing you into their world. What I liked best was the intense speed of the story, not once did I feel any part was drawn out or overdone, as I have often encountered in some horror books. From the cover to a detailed map of the places mentioned in the story, to the dark photos within, it is a well thought out and intelligent piece of literature…
This was just part of Nancy’s review. You can read the rest at www.timjohnsonsbooks.com. And no, Nancy is not connected with PA in any way, shape, or form…last I heard, anyway.
Don’t worry, Carl, all of this info is being seen by those that count. And I’m confident that they realize whose being sincere. And I’m confident that they can tell the difference between a writer and a wannabe.
—Tim Johnson
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CSI,
It's okay. I know what it's like to work nightshift. I work rotational shift work myself. But, Gee, working at PA on nightshift must really be boring. Coffee anyone?
All right, I've got dayshift in the morning. Someone else will have to take it from here.
Goodnight, folks.
YAWN
YAWN IS RIGHT! Total boredom is setting in! I am so sick of this obsession! Get a life already! Time to trade the car in for a new model. It has way too much mileage. The tires are bald and there's too much smoke coming out of its rear!
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YAWN IS RIGHT! Total boredom is setting in! I am so sick of this obsession! Get a life already! Time to trade the car in for a new model. It has way too much mileage. The tires are bald and there's too much smoke coming out of its rear!
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Re: Right now, it just stands for yet another PA poster...
Well, working the Grave-Yard isn't that bad! No where near P/A Headquarters. Just a bunch a "Stiffs" here...
Let's all get, what they need... A LIFE!!!!
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Well, working the Grave-Yard isn't that bad! No where near P/A Headquarters. Just a bunch a "Stiffs" here...
Let's all get, what they need... A LIFE!!!!
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Re: Right now, it just stands for yet another PA poster...
Sandy, CSI:
Tell everyone at PA that I’d send my regards if I could find them...unfortunately I can't.
Regardless, tell Miranda and the rest that all of this could have been avoided...but this was their choice.
...Or maybe...one of you could be Miranda? Hmmmm. I’m not completely convinced as of yet.
Sandy, CSI:
Tell everyone at PA that I’d send my regards if I could find them...unfortunately I can't.
Regardless, tell Miranda and the rest that all of this could have been avoided...but this was their choice.
...Or maybe...one of you could be Miranda? Hmmmm. I’m not completely convinced as of yet.
Re: Hmmm?
When someone asks whether a new member represents PA, the moderators may be able to find out where that member is posting from. That would be a start.
When someone asks whether a new member represents PA, the moderators may be able to find out where that member is posting from. That would be a start.
Re: Right now, it just stands for yet another PA poster...
(Doors swing open. Squeaky wheels echo against the white ceramic tiled walls.)
"Hey, CSI! I've got another one for you, THIS THREAD!"
:smokin
(Doors swing open. Squeaky wheels echo against the white ceramic tiled walls.)
"Hey, CSI! I've got another one for you, THIS THREAD!"
:smokin
Re: Right now, it just stands for yet another PA poster...
Thanks Sandy! I was getting really bored.
Okay, this Thread... Did it die a Natural Death? Let's look at the "Toe-Tag". HMMM... Ah, Ha!
Yup! Just as I thought. Case Closed!
Now? Where did I put your latest Crime Novel? Oh, Yeah! Here it is! This should keep me awake...
Thanks Sandy! I was getting really bored.
Okay, this Thread... Did it die a Natural Death? Let's look at the "Toe-Tag". HMMM... Ah, Ha!
Yup! Just as I thought. Case Closed!
Now? Where did I put your latest Crime Novel? Oh, Yeah! Here it is! This should keep me awake...
Re: Hmmm?
That’s an excellent idea, reph. Hopefully it will be implemented. That’d be great, wouldn’t it?
Okay, that’s all for me tonight. But the war is far from over.
That’s an excellent idea, reph. Hopefully it will be implemented. That’d be great, wouldn’t it?
Okay, that’s all for me tonight. But the war is far from over.
Re: Right now, it just stands for yet another PA poster...
I can't stay long. I've got court in the morning, but I've got two Starbucks here, CSI. Are you interested?
I'll give your report to Tim and Reph. They should enjoy it....
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I can't stay long. I've got court in the morning, but I've got two Starbucks here, CSI. Are you interested?
I'll give your report to Tim and Reph. They should enjoy it....
:smokin
Re: Right now, it just stands for yet another PA poster...
Sandy, CSI:
If I’m not mistaken (and I don’t believe that I am), this section of AbsoluteWrite is for discussing the fraudulent activity that PA continues to practice. So far, nothing that either of you have posted relates.
It’s apparent that the two of you have discovered the wrong board. How sad, because at peak time activity, you’ll get nothing but anti-PA sentiments thrown your way.
Sandy, CSI:
If I’m not mistaken (and I don’t believe that I am), this section of AbsoluteWrite is for discussing the fraudulent activity that PA continues to practice. So far, nothing that either of you have posted relates.
It’s apparent that the two of you have discovered the wrong board. How sad, because at peak time activity, you’ll get nothing but anti-PA sentiments thrown your way.
Re: Right now, it just stands for yet another PA poster...
Tim. You are Absolute(ly) Write! Nothing I have written so far, applies. Just like the substance of this entire THREAD!
Get The Clue?
Need to send evidence to "Trace" for verification? The results will be the same as it was, the last 100 times this tennis match as been played-out!
Unless you can run everything that everyone had "bagged & tagged" under new technology, which will yield new results, you have no case to present.
'Tis a Cold Case! Put it back in the "Stacks". Move on to something more interesting!
Report:CSI-2004/26/11 FINAL
Tim. You are Absolute(ly) Write! Nothing I have written so far, applies. Just like the substance of this entire THREAD!
Get The Clue?
Need to send evidence to "Trace" for verification? The results will be the same as it was, the last 100 times this tennis match as been played-out!
Unless you can run everything that everyone had "bagged & tagged" under new technology, which will yield new results, you have no case to present.
'Tis a Cold Case! Put it back in the "Stacks". Move on to something more interesting!
Report:CSI-2004/26/11 FINAL
Re: Right now, it just stands for yet another PA poster...
Tim,
(EXCESSIVE YAWNING!)
The last time I tried a case with the defense attorney whining like the people on this thread, the judge threw the case out. Judges tend to ask for evidence and not unsubstantiated sniveling.
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Tim,
(EXCESSIVE YAWNING!)
The last time I tried a case with the defense attorney whining like the people on this thread, the judge threw the case out. Judges tend to ask for evidence and not unsubstantiated sniveling.
:smokin
Well, look at it this way...
....at least y'all do have the freedom to post here, no matter how trivial or inane the substance of said posts may be. A tad different from the total freedom PA allows its authors on its bulletin boards...
....at least y'all do have the freedom to post here, no matter how trivial or inane the substance of said posts may be. A tad different from the total freedom PA allows its authors on its bulletin boards...
Re: Right now, it just stands for yet another PA poster...
And, out of curiousity, do any of you PAvidians ever use your real name?
And, out of curiousity, do any of you PAvidians ever use your real name?
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