6 NJ Fishermen presumed dead

Noah Body said:

Wow. I'm not a fisherman (other than for sport), but I can't see any reason to put such a contrarian viewpoint on display in a thread like this.

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I guess the original title annoyed me.

James81 said:

Yeah, it probably is a dangerous job. But I don't eat Alaskan fish. And if every fisherman today suddenly walked out on their jobs and they never sold fish again, I would give less than a shit because I don't eat fish.

When I DO eat fish, it's trout. And I am capable of getting that myself.

What I am saying is, that, perhaps fishermen don't get "respect" of a cop because their jobs are essentially useless when compared to what cops do.

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FWIW, I know both, James. A friend of mine is a lobsterman and has dealt w/ difficulties before. Almost died a number of times.

I work w/ cops, a lot. All the time, in fact. So I know both sides of the equation.

Point here is not the who, it's respect your fellow writer.

You are missing that.

And it's hitting you right between the eyes.

benbradley said:

Diana is clearly being sarcastic.

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Sarcasm which implies most people don't care that fishermen have died. That being my point. Maybe a few people don't care but there is no need to presuppose this of the entire AWWC membership many of whom are from fishing, logging and mining communities and families.

Jean Marie said:

Point here is not the who, it's respect your fellow writer.

You are missing that.

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No, I'm not missing that.

But I usually give respect to people who show respect to me in return.

And I get insanely annoyed at grandstanding and pedastalling of people who are doing their job.

James81 said:

No, I'm not missing that.

But I usually give respect to people who show respect to me in return.

And I get insanely annoyed at grandstanding and pedastalling of people who are doing their job.

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Point is, she apologized asked for the title to be changed. It was.

Everyone has their opinions, such as you and I. They differ, hence this room. If we were all the same, what a boring world this would be.

Some happen to think what others do for work is more awesome than others.

Whatever.

My hero almost died on Sunday. There you have it. He was riding a motorcycle and was hit by a car. He'll more than likely never work at his lifelong career again b/c of his injuries. He may never walk, again. He's alive b/c of his friend who is in the same line of work. He's taught me many things over the years. I'm a better person b/c of him, a much better person.

I've been crying and praying for the last several days b/c of this. He's a paramedic.

He's not on a pedestal, but he means a lot to me.

Jean Marie said:

My hero almost died on Sunday. There you have it. He was riding a motorcycle and was hit by a car. He'll more than likely never work at his lifelong career again b/c of his injuries. He may never walk, again. He's alive b/c of his friend who is in the same line of work. He's taught me many things over the years. I'm a better person b/c of him, a much better person.

I've been crying and praying for the last several days b/c of this. He's a paramedic.

He's not on a pedestal, but he means a lot to me.

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My heart goes out to you for that.

But I don't see what you are saying as putting him on a pedastal. Nor were you demanding that I "care."

James81 said:

My heart goes out to you for that.

But I don't see what you are saying as putting him on a pedastal. Nor were you demanding that I "care."

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Thank you. It's incredibly sad.

No, I'm not. But, I think the OP was initially feeling upset over the thread, apologized asked the thread title to be changed and is attempting to move on.

That's where I say we ought to allow that to occur. That's where the respect comes in. The OP has said it was a mistake, so...

Diana Hignutt said:

No, no, no. I just meant that I had to cool myself down a little, as my apology came off snarky. I'll never leave AW.

Also, my thank to whichever mod assisted in my request.

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Kumbaya...

Jean Marie said:

Thank you. It's incredibly sad.

No, I'm not. But, I think the OP was initially feeling upset over the thread, apologized asked the thread title to be changed and is attempting to move on.

That's where I say we ought to allow that to occur. That's where the respect comes in. The OP has said it was a mistake, so...

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Fair enough.

James81 said:

Fair enough.

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Works for me, too.

Thanks.

...I looked

Diana Hignutt said:

An interesting note on this thread: Once we removed the incendiary portion of the title almost no one looked at this thread. It does kinda prove my original point.

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I did, Diana, but I find it difficult to say much that hasn't already been said regarding tragedies like this. That's why I rarely participate in threads of this nature. But yes, it's very sad. I wish it hadn't happened.

Fishing is barbaric.

They're swimming in their natural habitat and then ripped from it.

Horrible.

But R.I.P. Fisherman

billythrilly7th said:

Fishing is barbaric.

They're swimming in their natural habitat and then ripped from it.

Horrible.

But R.I.P. Fisherman

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Sea kittens according to PETA.

But in all seriousness, my condolences to the families.

Well Diana, I must say your Trollfu is weak. I did see the original post, but I didn't feel like feeding a troll at the time, which is what you were being. James on the other hand I'm going to let slide, as Diana kind of had it coming with her original bit of trolling, and he gave her what she was asking for.

In general though I'm kind of against allowing these thread titles to be edited. It's kind of a cowards way out, and in most forums I participate in, people(myself included) find it annoying because it allows for a person to potentially weasel out of what they previously said. Perhaps allowing for the deletion of a topic if the poster makes a formal apology topic would be acceptable to me, that way whoever does something this foolish again can get barbecued for a while by some flaming, until they set things straight.

The thing everyone here ought to remember is that the beauty of online forums is that they force you to think in order post something. If a person decides to troll than, I figure that person should either be up for open flaming, or the thread should simply be closed and the user's account frozen for a day or two.

I've said my peace.