Rush criticizes MJF

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Do you like Perkster better?

And I disagree with you here. Harry Reid crucified Tom Delay for taking money from Abramoff, despite knowing he had personally taken MORE from Abramoff than Delay had (as did Murray and Rangel. Daschle took just a little less. Durbin, Clinton, Feinstein and Pelosi took smaller amounts). They're all a$$es. They're all hypocrites. The whole lot of them.

Or is there one or another who you DON'T feel is a liar, scum, or jerk?
 

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billythrilly7th said:
I think we should fund our 2024 campaign out of our screenplay spec money.

Ok.

How's your script coming?

I just saw "The Prestige" and had to throw my script away, since Nolan mindwiped me and stole my script line-for-line.

AGAIN!
 
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Sorry yours was stolen.

Mine are coming along fine..

I think we'll be okay.

Maybe we'll take small donations.

We'll figure it out.

Plenty of time.
 

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Gary said:
I never even hinted that Rush was a victim, and he certainly hasn't. I was only trying to understand if addiction is only acceptable and worthy of sympathy for those on the left. I believe everyone who has an addiction makes a choice, but it's easier for some to break than it is for others.

The addiction was in reference to his hypocracy, dude. What I think about addicts doesn't make them quit. Doesn't make them better than me or worse then me. Like Popeye, they are what they are. Whether you believe they have a chemical imbalance, a psychological wrinkle, or simply make a self-indulgent choice, makes no odds either. But if someone set themself up as the voice of all that is decent and righteous, they better damn well be above reproach themself.

Gary said:
As for the Viagra, it was in his doctor's name. What do you think the local drug store pharmacist would have done if he had the information that Rush Limbaugh suffered from ED?

Laughed? Been professional? Not had a clue who this fatmouth was standing across the counter? Wondered why this hispanic maid was called Rush? I don't know. Neither do you. Neither did he.

And if you or I went to the doctor and said, "Hey, Doc. The old schmeckle ain't poppin' up to attention like it used to, can you give me the magic pill? Oh, and it's staggeringly embarrassing, so can you put it in YOUR name instead of mine, and then call the pharmacy so they know it's for you and not me, but it really is for me." Y' know what the doctor would say? Second word would be "off." I've been fishing and it bores the hell outta me, but it doesn't bore me so much that I'd need to take meds to go have a hand-shandy on the bank.

I am of course being generous and assuming it was just a quick hand-shandy (though frankly if you need viagra for that, you are sad strange little man) and not some liason with a hooker, or maybe he wanted to compare domestic inflation with a fishing buddy.

Gary said:
Al Gore was brought up in response to the charge that conservatives were not compassionate. As I said, politics should not get into the business of fund raising for disease. It only hurts the cause, and shame on those who attempt to further their political agenda by using sick people to support one candidate or another with the idea that electing that candidate will make them well.

Who ran on a platform of "Compassionate Conservatism"? then screwed the nation and poor? Started a war? Bilked tax payers? Lined the pockets of oil companies and war profiteers? Compassionate?

Gary said:
Thanks for the beer offer, but I'll have to pass. I quit that addictive habit over 30 years ago.

Dude, the offer was a friendly gesture. If you have an issue, you could just say no and leave it at that. Or was I supposed to feel guilty for making that insensatively nice gesture? I insulted your hero? Too bad. If I insulted you by association, I'm sorry, but you pick your heroes, if they stand for filth, lies and deciet, not my fault.

Maybe I missed something. Maybe this is all about the first and last paragraph and you think I'm in someway slamming you if you had addiction issues with alcohol in the past. Who knows? Not I. But I do know I'm done here, ditto.
 

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Okay, folks. Let's not make this personal between members, okay?
 

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dclary said:
Do you like Perkster better?

And I disagree with you here. Harry Reid crucified Tom Delay for taking money from Abramoff, despite knowing he had personally taken MORE from Abramoff than Delay had (as did Murray and Rangel. Daschle took just a little less. Durbin, Clinton, Feinstein and Pelosi took smaller amounts). They're all a$$es. They're all hypocrites. The whole lot of them.

Or is there one or another who you DON'T feel is a liar, scum, or jerk?
Not at all. The lot of them make me sick. But I do admire the ability to keep ones peccadilloes, deviances and skeletons in their respective closets. There's something to be said for not being such a sh!thead that everyone cannot wait to dance on the grave of your ego.

They all lie, cheat, steal and a good few of them probably murder. We always think we want a moral, upstanding citizen in our elected offices and positions of punditry, but unfortunately, the nature of these jobs attracts a different sort. So, I will admire what I can - decorum, the ability to work with those around you, a civil tongue and the shrewdness to not get caught so as not to embarrass all those who defend you.

Cynical? Eh. Whatever.

And Perkster's alright. It's a stupid screen name anyway.
 

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What was this thread called? Man, it's like living in Dark City here sometimes.

;)
 

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wordmonkey said:
The addiction was in reference to his hypocracy, dude. What I think about addicts doesn't make them quit. Doesn't make them better than me or worse then me. Like Popeye, they are what they are. Whether you believe they have a chemical imbalance, a psychological wrinkle, or simply make a self-indulgent choice, makes no odds either. But if someone set themself up as the voice of all that is decent and righteous, they better damn well be above reproach themself.



Laughed? Been professional? Not had a clue who this fatmouth was standing across the counter? Wondered why this hispanic maid was called Rush? I don't know. Neither do you. Neither did he.

And if you or I went to the doctor and said, "Hey, Doc. The old schmeckle ain't poppin' up to attention like it used to, can you give me the magic pill? Oh, and it's staggeringly embarrassing, so can you put it in YOUR name instead of mine, and then call the pharmacy so they know it's for you and not me, but it really is for me." Y' know what the doctor would say? Second word would be "off." I've been fishing and it bores the hell outta me, but it doesn't bore me so much that I'd need to take meds to go have a hand-shandy on the bank.

I am of course being generous and assuming it was just a quick hand-shandy (though frankly if you need viagra for that, you are sad strange little man) and not some liason with a hooker, or maybe he wanted to compare domestic inflation with a fishing buddy.



Who ran on a platform of "Compassionate Conservatism"? then screwed the nation and poor? Started a war? Bilked tax payers? Lined the pockets of oil companies and war profiteers? Compassionate?



Dude, the offer was a friendly gesture. If you have an issue, you could just say no and leave it at that. Or was I supposed to feel guilty for making that insensatively nice gesture? I insulted your hero? Too bad. If I insulted you by association, I'm sorry, but you pick your heroes, if they stand for filth, lies and deciet, not my fault.

Maybe I missed something. Maybe this is all about the first and last paragraph and you think I'm in someway slamming you if you had addiction issues with alcohol in the past. Who knows? Not I. But I do know I'm done here, ditto.

I was only trying to clear up some misconceptions from earlier posts, and my thanks for the drink offer was genuine. I did have an alcohol problem and quit. If you somehow misconstrued my response to be an insult, I apologize. Make it a diet Coke or a cup of decaf, and I'll buy the 2nd round.

We obviously have a different political view, but I won't challenge your beliefs unless they are factually incorrect, and then I won't hesitate.
 

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Perks said:
This is all so sudden, Dave. Hold me.

We're like Hawkeye and Hot Lips in the cabin during the artillery shelling.
 

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Gary said:
I was only trying to clear up some misconceptions from earlier posts, and my thanks for the drink offer was genuine. I did have an alcohol problem and quit. If you somehow misconstrued my response to be an insult, I apologize. Make it a diet Coke or a cup of decaf, and I'll buy the 2nd round.

We obviously have a different political view, but I won't challenge your beliefs unless they are factually incorrect, and then I won't hesitate.

Dude:

I admit I've had a pretty cr@ppy week. Flu coming on, a comic deal I had fell apart, argument with my good lady, lack of sleep, you name it, this week if it's been small, cr@ppy and annoying, I've had it.

That decaf is there and a hand offered to shake. And an apology for any misconceptions given or interpretted. And next round, I'll have leaded coffee, I'm immune to the effects of caffine.
 

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wordmonkey said:
And the Partridges.

Though poor little Danny.

You gotta wonder what the hell his agent was thinking, huh?

"Hey Dan. You're on the comeback of the century, man. Top-rated radio show, great tv show. The world's your oyster. Hey, I got this new show for you. It's called "breaking bonaduce, and it's pretty much designed to see just how f*cked up we can get you, see if maybe we can cost you your career, marriage, you know. Everything. You game?"
 

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Jamesaritchie said:
Have you read Fox's book? Obviously you haven't. Rush actually quoted from the book, and somehow this gets overlooked by people who think they know what they're talking about, or already have their minds made up.

In his book, Fox states that when he's called to testify, he stops taking his medication so he'll tremble and look pitiful. So in a sense, it is largely an act. And, for me, that's about as low as it gets.

So Fox may not be exaggerating the way UNTREATED Parkinson's makes you act and look, but he's sure as anything not playing fair, and intentionally not using his medication just so he can sway the people he's talking to.

He's also considerably less than honest about what stem cell research could mean to him, and others like him. Blatantly dishonest. He wants this research done, and he'll do anything to see it happens.

Fox only exhibits symptoms when and if he wants to, and that's truly low.

When I read the story on the AP wire at work this morning, I was infuriated. I dislike Rush with a passion anyway, but this just made me sick.

I could care less if MJF doesn't take his medicine when he testifies. What does it matter? If he's working toward getting help for people, what does it matter if he doesn't take his meds?

My grandmother has Parkinson's. I also had three aunts and two cousins who have it. Some days, she doesn't shake at all. Others, that's all she does. It doesn't matter if she takes her medicine or not on a bad day. It isn't something that can be controlled at will. I have watched her go from being a vibrant woman with a great sense of humor to one who doesn't even like to leave the house because she can't speak anymore and has to have help walking. I've watched her personal dignity being torn to shreds because she couldn't even help herself in the bathroom. This disease is progressive, which means it will only get worse. She'll have more bad days than good, when the medication won't work at all. One of these days, as the disease progresses, her mind will start to go and she'll have bouts of senility. The end stages will consist of her barely knowing anything. It breaks my heart, because she is truly my hero, and I hate to see her go through any of that.

I don't see how MJF or anyone else for that matter can exhibit symptoms at will. This disease just doesn't work that way.

No one deserves it. No one. I am thankful that MJF is doing the work he's doing. I applaud him. If not taking his medication so his disease appears worse than it is leads to more funding for research against this disease, I am all for it. I don't think not taking his medicine is low. He's making himself more uncomfortable for the sake of research, for something that will probably not help him in his lifetime. I don't think that's selfish or low at all.
 

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Bravo said:
rush is opposed to stem cell research.

so now, his rational, eloquent self has decided to target michael j fox, saying he's:
"exaggerating the effects of the [parkinson's] disease. He’s moving all around and shaking and it’s purely an act. … This is really shameless of Michael J. Fox. Either he didn’t take his medication or he’s acting.”

"This is the only time I've ever seen Michael J. Fox portray any of the symptoms of the disease he has," Limbaugh said. "He can barely control himself."

http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/content/article/2006/10/24/AR2006102400691.html

so the only question now is:

what sort of internment camp does rush deserve to spend the rest of his miserable life in?


It's not just Rush who is attacking Michael J. Fox. In Missouri - where an ammendment regarding stem cells is on the ballot - there is also a very close Senate race between Democrat Claire McCaskill and Repulican Jim Talent (the incumbent). McCaskill launched a television ad with Fox as spokesperson and Talent's immediate response was to lash out at Fox with the same allegations made by Rush.

IMO this just demonstrates what a shmuck Talent is - he's a sorry little weasel and I have never voted for him. I support Ms. McCaskill and can only hope that enough of my fellow Missourians feel the same.
 

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Bravo said:
rush is opposed to stem cell research.

so now, his rational, eloquent self has decided to target michael j fox, saying he's:
"exaggerating the effects of the [parkinson's] disease. He’s moving all around and shaking and it’s purely an act. … This is really shameless of Michael J. Fox. Either he didn’t take his medication or he’s acting.”

"This is the only time I've ever seen Michael J. Fox portray any of the symptoms of the disease he has," Limbaugh said. "He can barely control himself."

http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/content/article/2006/10/24/AR2006102400691.html

so the only question now is:

what sort of internment camp does rush deserve to spend the rest of his miserable life in?


My grandfather died from a case of Parkinson's Disease, and I've seen first-hand what that disease can do to a person. My opinion: Rush wouldn't know Parkinson's Disease and its effects if it slapped him up alongside the head.

I'm sure others have pointed this out by now, but, Parkinson's Disease gets gradually worse. It eats away at a person's ability to control their own bodies to the point that they cannot eat, sleep, or go to the bathroom without there being a major event.

Two years after my grandfather was first diagnosed, he died in a fetal position in a comatose state. His condition was a horrible way to die, and I was with him when he passed away. I hope to God no one ever has to deal with that disease again.
 

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And the most asinine thing about this whole accusation is...if medication actually COULD completely control the tremoring and shaking at all times someone takes it, then WHY ON EARTH would MJF have had to give up his acting career in the height of a most spectacular resurrection? Spin City was riding high thanks to MJF, and it meant a LOT to him, and from all the interviews, etc. I've seen, it pretty much killed him to have to give that up completely. He went as long as he could without telling anyone he had Parkinson's, to the point that all his castmates thought he was being a royal pain in the *** showing up late to work all the time while he waited for his MEDICATION-CONTROLLED symptoms to improve to the point he actually COULD act for periods of time without shaking and jerking all over the place.

I especially love the heartfelt apology Rush has offered..."If this isn't an act, I apologize."

Yeah, I feel the love Rush. You ignorant @$$.
 

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it reminds me of the time yasser arafat did interviews on american TV.

he was on CNN once, and both of the "reporters" had smirks on their face as he stuttered and shook.

they kept going: "we can't understand you". "what?? what are you saying?" and laughed as he talked.

just awful.

it made me nauseous.
 
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