If one publishes a poem on a blog is it therefore unpublishable to a literary journal? Will publishing excerpts of a novel render it unpublishable to a book publisher? Is there one standard for this, or does it depend on the situation and publisher. What do agents say about that? Good question for me.
It depends on the publisher. Most don't care. The hardliners that'll reject a submission because a fraction of it once appeared on your weblog are what's technically known as "stupid". Gotta love self-thinning competition.
I'm not the expert here, but everything I've ever heard of this is yes, it makes it almost completely unpublishable. Unless you're Stephen friggin' King, you can expect nothing further from it because agents and publishers won't touch it.
Everything you've heard about this is wrong. The fact is, most online self-publishing attracts such an insignificant number of readers that it might as well not have happened. Meanwhile, writers who do get heavy site traffic tend to not have much trouble getting commercial publishing deals for their work.
From what I understand when someone pays to publish your work they usually pay for first publication rights. If you have already published the work (like putting it up online) then you have already used those rights and cannot sell them. You can still sell it for reprints and so on but I think publishers want first rights more.
If you have an article published on Slate or a short story published on Tor.com, it's fair to say your first rights have been used up. Putting an excerpt in your blog really shouldn't count.
If you're worried, make sure you don't refer to the appearance as "publication" in a later submission. If asked, say "I ran a bit of an earlier version of it in my blog, but there are telephone poles that get more readers than my site." This will make you sound pleasantly modest while making it clear that the piece hasn't gotten significant public exposure.
As for novels, sometimes you can get away with a single chapter of the larger story being posted online. It depends on the individual publisher as to how much of a story posted openly online before it is deemed as "previously published". Some say none at all, some will allow a chapter or two.
Some don't care if you put the whole thing up, or release it as a free download on its hardcopy publication date.
You can publish poems or stories online if it is in a restricted, password protected area such as AW's SYW area. By having it in a restricted area, you protect your First Publication Rights.
Maybe there are publishing houses that keep track of such fine points, but I haven't heard of them. The deciding factor isn't whether the area required a password; it's how much the publisher wants your book.
I agree, it depends. What's not all right is to sign a publishing contract which states that the work has not been previously published when in fact it has appeared online, in near- or complete entirety, with only minor changes between it and the product being sold for publication.
Maybe they won't care and will go for second rights/reprint, but you don't want to sign a legally binding document containing a falsehood.
True. What this means is that you should ask them whether it's a problem. Don't preemptively self-reject your work unless the publisher's submission guidelines clearly rule out your specific circumstances. Let them handle triage.
Putting it online makes it published. That limits you to markets that take reprints.
With all due respect for your considerable expertise in other areas, I have to disagree.
All I mean is a paragraph or two of a rough draft of a novel on a private blog for my friends and readers. It sounds like for some publishers that may mean too much. That sounds awfully strict in the new world of the Internet.
Good call. That interpretation is way too strict. No way does a paragraph or two of a rough draft on a private blog qualify as publication.