MacAdam/Cage Publishing Inc.

To the best of my knowledge they're all three legitimate small-to-very-small presses.

Get copies of their guidelines and follow them to the letter.

Good luck.

caren1701 said:

Insomniac Press
MacAdam Cage

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I can't tell you any more than this, but at least one bookstore I frequented regularly had books from these two presses.

MacAdam/Cage is one of the best indie presses in the country, and has even had bestsellers (notably "the Time-Traveller's Wife). They have a great reputation for debut authors, and are also known for standing behind their books in the long term, continuing to push their list rather than remaindering anything that doesn't sell after fice minutes on the shelves. You can find MacAdam/Cage books in any bookstore.

jenrob

CaoPaux said:

Linking, linking, over the bounding thread....

http://www.insomniacpress.com/

http://www.macadamcage.com/catalog/index.php?main_page=about

http://www.thepermanentpress.com/

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After looking into these sites I find that MacAdam has a long list of what they won't read. It almost eliminates most novels.

The permanent press has books that look like they are over priced.

Jennifer Robins

Jennifer Robins said:

After looking into these sites I find that MacAdam has a long list of what they won't read. It almost eliminates most novels.


Jennifer Robins

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No. It's fairly clear that their emphasis is on literary fiction, not genre. Their list is full of fiction.

I'm looking at MacAdam/Cage as a possible publishing candidate.

Does anyone know if it's safe to get back in the water? I know they had financial problems a year or so ago. Since then, Pat Walsh, editor in chief, after a few bad acquisition decisions (and whatever else) has been replaced with Sonny Brewer, who seems to bring with him new life.

It looks to me they have weathered the storm, but I don't know the status of William Gay's much delayed, and anticipated novel.

Anyone have any recent (or past) experience with MacAdam/Cage? At one time, they were at the front of my list. From the stories I began hearing of their demise, I'm glad I waited!

Thanks!

Incidentally, I looked for them in the Index and couldn't find them. I ended up googling to find this thread. Have I gone blind?

Here's a recent Publishers Weekly article on their reorganization. They're now self-distributed, which I honestly think is a negative for a press that small.

I don't know. They've published some fine books in the past and had a really high quality of editing and design, but I am just not sure what the "leaner" incarnation will bring.

Another concern is the number of authors who reported delays in receiving royalty payments.

Thanks, IceCreamEmpress!

This I don't particularly warm to:

The new MacAdam/Cage is a lean business, Poindexter said, essentially a virtual company modeled after an indie film production house. Poindexter and a San Francisco assistant, plus Brewer, are the only employees. “We put together freelance teams of designers, editors, copyeditors, marketing or promotion people as we need them,” Poindexter said. “We had too much overhead before. This makes more sense and you also know just what you’re spending on each book.” MacAdam/Cage handles its own distribution and fulfillment out of a warehouse in Michigan. “We handle all the major accounts,” Poindexter said, “and independent sales reps handle everyone else.”

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It's always good to cut overhead, but now they're sounding not so much like a medium-sized press anymore, which I thought they were. Before. I might send a query anyway to at least see what they say, and in the meantime do more digging. My decision will hang very much on what William Gay has decided to do. He may have gone with a different publisher by now for all I know.

This news goes back to Sept 2012...

A week after being sued by Penguin...

http://lunch.publishersmarketplace....and-ebook-rights-they-never-legally-acquired/

MacAdam/Cage is put up for sale by publisher David Poindexter...

http://www.shelf-awareness.com/issue.html?issue=1837#m17600

LillyPu said:

Thanks, IceCreamEmpress!

This I don't particularly warm to:


It's always good to cut overhead, but now they're sounding not so much like a medium-sized press anymore, which I thought they were. Before. I might send a query anyway to at least see what they say, and in the meantime do more digging. My decision will hang very much on what William Gay has decided to do. He may have gone with a different publisher by now for all I know.

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I fear William Gay just passed away from a heart attack. It said last Thursday, on the right bar of their front page? How damn sad.

Gay died almost a year ago. His last novel, The Long Home, was finally published by MacAdam/Cage. The book's publication date (Sept 21, 2012) was the same week M/C was sued by Penguin and subsequently went up for sale.

Thanks for that. I just saw a flash on the site and then it went poof and I couldn't get it back. I've since then Googled and found out his death date, and you are correct.

tri

David Poindexter, publisher of MacAdam/Cage, RIP.

http://www.shelf-awareness.com/issue.html?issue=1984#m19857

MP Publishing now handling (at least some) of Mac/Cage's submissions...

What's up everybody,

This post is a response, a heads up, but with a question as well.

I submitted first 30 pages of my first novel snail mail to MacAdam Cage and got an e-mail response requesting the full...keep my fingers crossed.

But it wasn't MacAdam Cage, it was a representative from MP Publishing and she wrote informing me that my partial was forwarded to them.

Just a heads up...I researched MP Publishing and apparently they are somewhat new and out of the UK but building up their US presence and looking for American titles. Anybody know anything more about them? Anything would be appreciated.

So to get back to the subject of the previous posts...yes, with Poindexter gone MacAdam Cage is not taking on the titles they once did, apparently. But I don't know and wasn't told if that means MacAdam Cage is in the process of closing up shop completely.

MP Publishing and MacAdam/Cage have been doing business with each other since at least 2008. The recent events at MacAdam/Cage may have prompted a buy-out.

From the article:

"At the time of his death, Poindexter was negotiating the sale of the company, plans that his family said will continue, although no details were announced."

MP Publishing basically started as the UK e-publishing arm of MacAdam/Cage. I did not have a good experience with MP. They e-published my M/C novel (in 2010) before M/C had even given me a contract. Worse, it was an unedited version. Representatives of MP claimed it was M/C's fault, which was believable, since M/C was rudderless by that time and the target of lawsuits from authors. M/C did not correct the problem with my book, and I had to personally inform MP that they were illegally publishing a book without a contract, that I had no idea who they even were, and they did finally take my book off their list. My problems with M/C worsened and I finally withdrew my book from that company and ended my relationship with them.

I do not know the official legal relationship between M/C and MP. MP does have a branch in the US now, I believe. Good luck & keep your eyes very wide open.

Here's an MP-related thread from a year and a half ago, with striking similarities to my own experience:

http://www.absolutewrite.com/forums/showthread.php?t=237875

Edward Cline's Take on M/C Publishing

Edward Cline (author of the Sparrowhawk novels) has written devastating articles regarding his relationship with both M/C Publishing and MP Publishing:

http://ruleofreason.blogspot.com/2013/08/sparrowhawk-rescued-from-oblivion.html

http://ruleofreason.blogspot.com/2013/08/boycott-kobo-ebooks.html

Sadly, it appears that with David Poindexter's passing, there is no MacAdam/Cage Publishing.

MacAdam Cage is now in bankruptcy.

http://business-bankruptcies.com/cases/macadam-cage-publishing-inc

MacAdam/Cage creditors:

• Academos
• Alan Spence
• All American Printing
• Altaf Tyrewala
• Amanda Ward-Meckel
• Amazon
• American Express
• American West Books
• Amherst books
• Amy Koppelman

• Angela Mi Young Hur
• Ann Tucker Morgan
• Anne Raeff
• Antal Polony
• Anthem Blue Cross
• Association of American Publishes
• ATT
• Audrey Niffenegger
• Backlist Holdings
• Baker & Tayler
• Baker & Tayler
• Baker & Tayler
• Baker & Tayler
• Bank of America
• Bank Square Books, Ltd
• Barbar Braun Assoc.
• Barnes & Noble Purchasing
• Barnes & Noble Purchasing
• Bay Books
• Bayer & Associates
• Bear Pond Books
• Ben Greenman
• Beth Ann Bauman
• Bettina Shanahan
• Book Passage
• Book Soup
• Books n Things
• Bookworks New Mexico
• Boulder Bookstore
• Brandt & Hochman Literary
• Brewer
• Brian Conner
• Brian Copeland
• Brian Copeland
• Brian Francis
• Bridgeman Art Library Ltd.
• Brookline Booksmith
• Brown University Bookstore
• Browseabout Shops
• Bruce Drucker
• Burlingham Books
• C. Terry Cline, Jr.
• Carolin Kellems
• Cecelia Formichella
• Changing Hands Bookstore
• Chaucer's Bookstore
• Chester County Book Company
• Cisco, Inc
• Claudia Cross
• Clyde Watson
• Clyde Watson
• Collected Works Bookstore
• Compleat Bookseller
• Copperfield's Books
• Country Bookseller
• Craig Clevenger
• Danielle Wood
• Dave Adams
• David Adams Richards
• David Francis
• David Francis
• Dayne Sherman
• Deborah Robertson
• Deborah Robertson
• Den Hartog
• Dianne Bowen-Gay
• Dona Turner
• Donna Daley-Clarke
• Dorothy Smith
• Dorothy Smith
• Eastern Book Company
• Edward Cline
• EIS
• El Corral Bookstore
• Elena Forbes
• Elisabeth Hyde
• Elisabeth Hyde
• Elizabeth Dulemba
• Elliot Bay Book Company
• Eric Martin
• Farley's Bookshop
• Fed Ex - Revenue Recover
• FedEx
• Follett Library Resources
• Fort Smith Public Library
• Franchise Tax Board
• Frank Turner Hollon
• Germaine Shames
• Gibson's Bookstore
• Gina Nahai
• Gonzaga University Bookstore
• Gottwals Books
• Grass Roots Books & Music
• Green Arcade
• Guillermo Martinez
• Harper Collins
• Harry Thompson
• Harry Thompson
• Harvard Book Store
• Henrik Drescher
• Howard Bahr
• Iain Banks
• ICM
• Iconoclast Books
• Ingram Book Group
• Ingvar Ambjornsen
• Internal Revenue Service
• Ivy Bookshop
• J. Goebel
• Jack Pendarvis
• James Hawes
• Jane Kotapish
• Jane Urquhart
• Jani Spennhoff
• Janis Cooke Newman
• Janis Cooke Newman
• Janis Newman Cooke
• Jeff Garigliano
• Jeffery Burton
• Jeffrey Archer
• Jennifer Paddock
• Joe Di Prisco
• Joe Di Prisco
• Joe Formichella
• Joey Goebel
• John A Gray
• John Yoder
• Jonathan Fenby
• Jonathan Odell
• Jonathon Odell
• Joseph Mitchell
• Julie Burton
• Karen Bender
• Karen Mockler
• Karen Spear Zacharias
• Kate Nitze
• Katherine Towler
• Katie Towler
• Kepler's Books
• Khristina M Wenzinger
• Kim Cherin
• King Courier
• King's English Bookstore
• Klindt's Booksellers & Stationers
• Kurt Fuettereer
• Lawrence G. Townsend
• Levine Greenberg Agency
• Lia Nirgad
• Lisa Barr
• Lorenz Schroter
• Maine Coast Book Shop
• Mainstreet Books
• Manuel Ramos
• Maple Vail
• Mark Dunn
• Mark Dunn
• Mark Dunn
• Mark McNay
• Market Block Books
• Marquette Book Marq
• Marshall Karp
• Master Builders Association
• Melanie Mitchell
• Melanie Wallace
• Michael Castleman
• Michael Castleman
• Michael Hodges
• Michael Kun
• Michael Mitchell
• Michael Oren
• Michelle Herman
• Michelle Tea
• Midwest Library Service
• Miriam Sagaser
• Moravian Book shop, Omc
• Mysterious Galaxy Bookstore-Redondo
• National Book Foundation
• New Center
• New York University Bookstore
• Nic Pizzolatto
• Nicole Louise Reid
• Nina De Gramont
• NM Bodecker
• Norman Gautreau
• Northshire Bookstore
• NSA - FED EX
• Oblong Books & Music
• Odyssey Bookshop
• Open Book Publicity
• Open Door Bookstore
• OSU Bookstore
• Page and Palette, Inc.
• Pamela Holm
• Partners West Distributing
• Patricia Henley
• Patricia Henley
• Paychex
• Penguin Bookshop
• Penguin Group
• Penguin Group, Inc.
• Performant Recovery
• Perseus Distribution, Inc.
• Perseus Distribution, Inc.
• Peter Adolphsen
• Peter Fimrite
• Peter Rock
• Peter Rushforth
• Peter Temple
• Phoenix Books
• Pia Ehrhardt
• Pitney Bowes
• Pitney Bowes
• Pitney Bowes Purchase Power
• Politics and Prose
• Porter Square Books
• Powell's Books
• Prepress
• Publishers Storage and Shipping Corp
• Rae Meadows
• Rae Meadows
• Rebecca Donner
• Red Tail Books, Inc
• Renee Manfredi
• Renee Manfredi
• Rick Bragg
• River Run Bookstore
• Rivers End Bookstore
• Robert Kalich
• Robert Kaplow
• Ronald Everett Capps
• Rui Zink
• Samantha Hunt
• Sarah Armstrong
• SFSU Bookstore
• Shanthi Sekarani
• Sheldon Siegel
• Sheri Joseph
• Sherman's Book & Stationary
• Skylight Books
• Smerillo Associates
• Smith, Grant,Kliegman, CPA
• Sommers Schwartz
• Sonny Brewer
• Soumeya Boudmeran
• Spoonbill & Sugartown
• Square Books Oxford
• State Board of Equalization
• Stephen Elliott
• Stephen Elliott
• Stephen Elliott
• Stephen Jones
• Steve Yarbrough
• Stock Exchange Tower
• Storyteller
• Sunshine O'Donnell
• Susan Vreeland
• Susan Vreeland
• Susanna Natti
• Suzanne Hudson
• Tanya Taylor
• The Book Report
• Tim Brennan
• Todd Pierce
• Union Bank
• Union Bank
• University of Arizona
• Veronique Ovalde
• Victoria Clark
• Walter Keady
• Walter Keady
• William Gay
• Wimberley
• XO Communications
• Young Hur

Holy chit. That's all?

Full 140 pp. MacAdam/Cage Bankruptcy Filing.

http://media.publishersmarketplace.com/wp-content/uploads/2014/01/MacAdamCagebankruptcyfiling.pdf