Teacher fired for being in porn movies in the past

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I don't know what to think of this one.

http://www.huffingtonpost.com/mobileweb/2013/01/16/stacie-halas-porn-actress-teacher_n_2486138.html

A middle-school science teacher fired after students learned she had appeared in pornographic movies had hoped not just to get her job back, but to set a precedent for people looking to escape an embarrassing personal history.
My first thought is, if she hasn't acted innappropriately at school, it shouldn't have bearing on her current position. She should be able to "turn over a new leaf."
"We were hoping we could show you could overcome your past," Halas lawyer Richard Schwab said Tuesday. "I think she's representative of a lot of people who may have a past that may not involve anything illegal or anything that hurts anybody."
Judge Julie Cabos-Owen said such a past matters in an age when technology makes porn easy to access and hard to bury.
My second thought is- what does it say about the people who told on her? -UM THEY WATCH IT! So in my opinion, they shouldn't be able to say "Boo" about it.

Student claims that the teacher was moonlighting as a porn star were initially dismissed after school officials said they couldn't find any images of her on the Internet – but they were using the school's computers, which don't allow access to porn.
My third thought- DUH!
 

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I think she should be allowed to teach kids, but that it poses an insurmountable problem if they find out about it.
 

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I don't know. While I'm generally in favor of second chances, some decisions simply have long-term consequences that can't be ignored. I think her's is one of these.
 

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I think she should be allowed to teach kids, but that it poses an insurmountable problem if they find out about it.

I'm sort of split on whether or not it's even "a problem" if they know. Mostly because you obviously don't want your kids to have seen their teacher being banged. But that's generally because you don't want any type of abuse of power situation going on. If they'd seen her having with her husband through her window, she wouldn't get fired.

All it really does is teach the kids that sex workers are regular people.
 

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I don't know. While I'm generally in favor of second chances, some decisions simply have long-term consequences that can't be ignored. I think her's is one of these.

Doesn't seem like grounds for being fired, though.

If she's unable to adequately perform her job after her students have found out, then sure.

It's not clear whether or not that was the case yet, apart from initial student reactions.
 

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I don't know. While I'm generally in favor of second chances, some decisions simply have long-term consequences that can't be ignored. I think her's hers is one of these.

Couldn't resist.

As to the OP...I agree that it shouldn't matter, but I understand how and why it creates problems now that she's been discovered.

I also think people should just let it go. Has she been a good, competent teacher? Has she had any problems with the students? Any other complaints against her?

If the answers are yes, no and no respectively, then leave all this in the past where it belongs.

Hell, even if the answers to those questions are negative, that part of her past doesn't matter and shouldn't play a roll in any part of her teaching life unless she's teaching the children how to act in porn or about sex or anything related directly to the porn industry.
 

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Hell, even if the answers to those questions are negative, that part of her past doesn't matter and shouldn't play a roll in any part of her teaching life unless she's teaching the children how to act in porn or about sex or anything related directly to the porn industry.

My bolding.

But what if it's sex ed?
 

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My first thought is, if she hasn't acted innappropriately at school, it shouldn't have bearing on her current position. She should be able to "turn over a new leaf."
Why does she need to "turn over a new leaf"? What exactly is wrong with a consenting adult choosing to act in pornography?

If she were teaching my kids, I wouldn't care if she were still making porn on the weekends, as long as she did a good job in the classroom.
 

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I think the people who outed her are hypocites because they obviously had to have watched it to know.

I think everyone should get to start over, no matter what.

In Christianity -our sins aren't forgiven as long as you can't find it in an internet search. They are just straight up forgiven.

And now she can't even go somewhere else because her name is in national headlines.
 

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I think the people who outed her are hypocites because they obviously had to have watched it to know.

I think everyone should get to start over, no matter what.

In Christianity -our sins aren't forgiven as long as you can't find it in an internet search. They are just straight up forgiven.

And now she can't even go somewhere else because her name is in national headlines.

Basically my thoughts. Unless she's teaching porn, who cares?
 

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Why does she need to "turn over a new leaf"? What exactly is wrong with a consenting adult choosing to act in pornography?

If she were teaching my kids, I wouldn't care if she were still making porn on the weekends, as long as she did a good job in the classroom.
"Turning over a new leaf" doesn't mean what you did before was wrong. Changing jobs is "turning over a new leaf." Moving is "turning over a new leaf."
 

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I was responding to Roger's assertion that because her work can be found on the internet she can't have a second chance.
 

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Why does she need to "turn over a new leaf"? What exactly is wrong with a consenting adult choosing to act in pornography?

If she were teaching my kids, I wouldn't care if she were still making porn on the weekends, as long as she did a good job in the classroom.

Also this. I didn't like the angle of "overcoming her past." But she may have had a genuinely bad experience. So I decided to take it that way rather than simply the fact that she was a sex worker.
 

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I was responding to Roger's assertion that because her work can be found on the internet she can't have a second chance.
Sorry. It was poorly worded. I didn't say she couldn't have a second chance. There are plenty of vocations where her past wouldn't be a problem. But teaching middle-school children is not one of them, in my opinion.
 

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probably wasn't the smartest move to refer to her teaching career in one of her films...
 

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I think everyone should get to start over, no matter what.
Okay, suppose she was a former member of the KKK. (There's nothing illegal about the KKK. It's Constitutionally protected.) She says she's a former member, anyway. There's some disagreement on when she went to her last meeting. Her student's have found some pictures of her on the internet at a KKK rally. Would you have a problem with her as a teacher?
 

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Okay, suppose she was a former member of the KKK. (There's nothing illegal about the KKK. It's Constitutionally protected.) She says she's a former member, anyway. There's some disagreement on when she went to her last meeting. Her student's have found some pictures of hers on the internet at a KKK rally. Would you have a problem with her as a teacher?

Depends what she teaches them in history class and how she treats her non-WASP students.
 

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Okay, suppose she was a former member of the KKK. (There's nothing illegal about the KKK. It's Constitutionally protected.) She says she's a former member, anyway. There's some disagreement on when she went to her last meeting. Her student's have found some pictures of her on the internet at a KKK rally. Would you have a problem with her as a teacher?

Seriously? You're equating acting in porn with being part of the KKK?
 

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All it really does is teach the kids that sex workers are regular people.

Why does she need to "turn over a new leaf"? What exactly is wrong with a consenting adult choosing to act in pornography?

If she were teaching my kids, I wouldn't care if she were still making porn on the weekends, as long as she did a good job in the classroom.

I think she should be reinstated and the people who fired her should be fired.
:nothing
 

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Remind me never to tell you about my past.

Frankly I think she is getting a raw deal.

yep she's getting screwed (ba dum tish)

but seriously, her past as long as it's not influencing her present has nothing to do with the now. let her teach.
 
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