A GAME OF THRONES (HBO) -- POSSIBLE SPOILERS

BunnyMaz said:

Maybe the key thing is warg + Targaryen blood? In which case

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Jon FTW!

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Perhaps.

BunnyMaz said:

AFAIK Tyrion

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has shown exactly zero signs of being a warg, and I'm not sure where the theory of his having Targaryen blood comes from...

does anyone know?

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Dany isn't much of a warg either. As for Tyrion's parentage -- there was stuff like Tywin telling Tyrion that he can't prove Tyrion isn't his son ('Men’s laws give you the right to bear my name and display my colors, since I cannot prove that you are not mine.') and tales of Aerys taking certain liberties with Tywin's wife. I don't believe it myself -- that'd be one too many secret Targs running around.

Izhitsa said:

Yeah. Aegon needn't fly up north during his conquest, but...

Firstly, warging isn't a purely Northern thing -- Bloodraven is a living (OK, undead ) proof that there are warging genes lurking around genomes of old families from the Riverlands. Secondly, IIRC Aegon and his sisters gave the King in the North and his host an 'air show' in order to compel submission. Any warg among the Northerners could've tried. (Incidentally, I bet King Loren of the Rock would've promised a yearly income from his gold mines to the best Northern warg to go south and mess with Balerion's controls. ). Thirdly, many years after the conquest King Jaehaerys I took six dragons with him on a visit to the North and the Wall.

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Very interesting? Where is this lore? I'd love to peruse it.

And yeah, I would imagine if someone tried to warg into a dragon and failed, the dragon would not take kindly to that. Not kindly at all.

CrastersBabies said:

Very interesting? Where is this lore? I'd love to peruse it.
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Certainly. Brynden - well... It is known.


King in the North seeing Balerion - ASOS Jaime II.

"Torrhen had brought his power south after the fall of the two kings on the Field of Fire," said Jaime, "but when he saw Aegon's dragon and the size of his host, he chose the path of wisdom and bent his frozen knees."


King J visiting the wall - ASOS Bran III

"He's called the Old King because he reigned so long, but he was young when he first came to the Iron Throne. In those days, it was his wont to travel all over the realm. When he came to Winterfell, he brought his queen, six dragons, and half his court."

I love the show and started reading the books. I like them, but the show does such a good job of following them its hard to stay in it. I hope to get ahead because the books are better a tension.

Side note on the popularity question. http://torrentfreak.com/game-of-thr...tm_campaign=Feed:+Torrentfreak+(Torrentfreak)

Thanks, Izhitsa, you rock!

As a non-bookie I can tell you that the finale left a bit to be desired. The Kingslanding scenes were spot on (Tyrion, his father's horse, Sansa and Margery--tho the later undercut a lot of my sympathy for her when she kept grinning so maniacally over at Sansa).

But the Warlock tower in Qarth was a mess. I recognized the iron throne room and saw the snow (yeah, yeah, winter's coming). And the scene in the tent with the baby was moving. But the actual warlock and Dany's rescue by the dragons was--for this nonbookie--a great big shovel of wtf. Here's a guy they set up as able to split into half a dozen pieces and simultaneously assassinate the entire City Council, yet, his sleeve catches on fire and he is rendered helpless. I've seen actual bumbling magicians in real life whose sleeves have caught on fire and they managed to keep their cool better. And why didn't they ramp up the danger of the place? I mean after telling us how dangerous the place was going to be! The actual visit to the tower was more like Dany was having a slightly bizarre dream--hardly the nightmare we'd been led to expect.

And all this talk of wargs--if it plays into the story as importantly as this thread suggests--the show needs to bring it up occasionally (if I recall it may or may not have been mentioned in a brief conversation between Bran and his meister).

Methinks the show is relying too heavily on people knowing what is going on, rather than actually showing us. I know the books are popular and all, but they need to keep the fans who have not read the books--and it feels like they are trying to alienate them. They're going to sink themselves if they expect book fans to be enough to carry the series through to the end--not enough people read.

Sorry the finale fell flat for you, Johnny. I find your take fascinating - everybody else I know has read the books already. And the warlock did go down easily. Was he made of petrol or something?

I'm still having issues accepting that it's not going to be on this sunday....or the next...for a year.

yay production

thothguard51 said:

10 months is really not that long...?

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Lol, at this rate, Bran's actor is going to be graduating college by the time he meets Cold Hands.

So strange, I've never watched this, but a friend of mine has just been offered the chance to be an extra. Can't believe he's actually considering whether to do it or not!

No spoilers, just reporting that I am now the proud user of a Mother of Dragons coffee mug. My guests get the Winter is Coming/Stark sigil mug.

The customer service guy at my cable company laughed when I told him I was cancelling HBO because Game of Thrones was over, and that I would resubscribe next year. Got the impression I wasn't the first person who told him that . Turns out he's a fan, too.

DreamWeaver, I cancelled my HBO an will re-sub when GoT returns.

I usually keep it through True Blood, but it sucked so bad last year (no pun intended), that I'll just wait for the DVD.

Heyas Thoth! Thanks for the updates. Very cool news here!

thothguard51 said:

Yes, she is THE Khaleesi...

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It is known

More casting news, including the Reeds. I don't know how I missed these:

http://www.westeros.org/GoT/News/Entry/A_Look_at_the_New_Cast/

Still missing Mance. Grrrr...

What up, GoT peeps? Thoth, you hanging in there? I'm already craving more.

I did read this snippet and wonder....

Maureen Ryan of the Huffington Post has discovered, in the course of an interview, that English actor Dominic West—perhaps best known for his role as McNulty in the critically acclaimed The Wire, and currently heading up the BBC’s The Hour—was offered a part on HBO’s Game of Thrones... a part which he passed up because, apparently, it involved being in Iceland for six months (or so he recalls—in fact, the production will be there for about six weeks) and that it was a prominent role.

Ryan speculates a number of possibilities, but we think her first guess—that he was offered the part of Mance Rayder, the former ranger of the Night’s Watch who has proclaimed himself King beyond the Wall—is pretty much spot on. West would have been fairly perfect for the part, it must be said, but it seems that’s not meant to be. As we know from recent remarks, the role of Mance Rayder was still in casting just two weeks ago.

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LINK

We need our Mance!