A GAME OF THRONES (HBO) -- POSSIBLE SPOILERS
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I think you are all missing the obvious choice.
King Sweetrobin. (Lysa Stark's son)
(Yeah, I am joking)
I'm mostly interested in the wild cards. Not that I think they have a real chance at the throne in the long term, but according to Martin there are going to be a few arses on that seat before the end. Littlefinger, for example. I know, it's unlikely, but...
There are several others, but most of them haven't made it onto the TV show yet.
King Sweetrobin. (Lysa Stark's son)
(Yeah, I am joking)
I'm mostly interested in the wild cards. Not that I think they have a real chance at the throne in the long term, but according to Martin there are going to be a few arses on that seat before the end. Littlefinger, for example. I know, it's unlikely, but...
There are several others, but most of them haven't made it onto the TV show yet.
I'm not sure Arya "stick them with the pointy end" Stark has all the qualities of a good monarch ...
I would pay to see Littlefinger as king. He would be awesomely evil. I loved that scene in the TV show when he talked to Varys about his fantasy of becoming king - how people wouldn't be able to kneel to him because they'd have no heads. That's my tiny little Machiavelli.
I would pay to see Littlefinger as king. He would be awesomely evil. I loved that scene in the TV show when he talked to Varys about his fantasy of becoming king - how people wouldn't be able to kneel to him because they'd have no heads. That's my tiny little Machiavelli.
So what shall we see tonight?
Theon Grayjoy?
Roose Bolton?
Brandon Stark?
Will Dani get her Army?
Will Jon Snow get his first piece?
Will Sam save the Craster girl?
Stay tuned and be prepared, pay attention, test follows...
Theon Grayjoy?
Roose Bolton?
Brandon Stark?
Will Dani get her Army?
Will Jon Snow get his first piece?
Will Sam save the Craster girl?
Stay tuned and be prepared, pay attention, test follows...
Roose Bolton appeared in the premiere - he was with Robb at Winterfell, distracting the ladies with his sexy voice. (Just me? OK.)
Missing in action from the premiere were Jaime Lannister and Arya Stark, among others. Looking forward to catching up with them.
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I only figured out that was Roose Bolton by his sigil. I am getting *way* too into Game of Thrones when I can identify characters because I know what their sigil is supposed to be, not identify the sigil because I know who the character is .
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Less than an hour! Well, more than that for me because we watch with the girl-child goes to bed.
Less than an hour! Well, more than that for me because we watch with the girl-child goes to bed.
Very good episode. Sets up for what should be an even more exciting episode next week, unless HBO skips to every other week.
Arya has met up with the hound, should be interesting...
The one thing I was slightly disappointed in, was Meera and Jojen Reed. Oh the actors are OK, but its almost like the shows writers wrote the characters backwards. If I remember right, Jojen was a hunter more so than his sister and I remember the sister as always wearing a hooded cloak. Maybe I am confusing them...
Theon Greyjoy, what can we say? He deserves every painful moment he gets, and yet, HBO seems to be holding back...
I think Cersei is finding herself at a disadvantage within her own home. She definitely can't like Joffrey telling her how smart women behave.
Lastly, I wonder if the new toy Joffrey was playing (Crossbow that is easier to load for a young man, or dwarf), with will have significance in future episodes, like next season or the season after? I will say this about Joffrey and his crossbow, unlike a bow, crossbows have to be aimed and he hit his target from a hip shot...
I have to say that the sword fight between Jammie and Bree was very disappointing, even though Jammie sad she was good. I understand Jammie is out of shape after a year of captivity, but Bree really does not look like a very experienced swords women. Oh she holds the sword right, but I still have a hard time believing she is that good.
Any bets on if HBO rewrites Jammie...spoiler>>> losing his sword hand? <<<end spoiler.
Arya has met up with the hound, should be interesting...
The one thing I was slightly disappointed in, was Meera and Jojen Reed. Oh the actors are OK, but its almost like the shows writers wrote the characters backwards. If I remember right, Jojen was a hunter more so than his sister and I remember the sister as always wearing a hooded cloak. Maybe I am confusing them...
Theon Greyjoy, what can we say? He deserves every painful moment he gets, and yet, HBO seems to be holding back...
I think Cersei is finding herself at a disadvantage within her own home. She definitely can't like Joffrey telling her how smart women behave.
Lastly, I wonder if the new toy Joffrey was playing (Crossbow that is easier to load for a young man, or dwarf), with will have significance in future episodes, like next season or the season after? I will say this about Joffrey and his crossbow, unlike a bow, crossbows have to be aimed and he hit his target from a hip shot...
I have to say that the sword fight between Jammie and Bree was very disappointing, even though Jammie sad she was good. I understand Jammie is out of shape after a year of captivity, but Bree really does not look like a very experienced swords women. Oh she holds the sword right, but I still have a hard time believing she is that good.
Any bets on if HBO rewrites Jammie...spoiler>>> losing his sword hand? <<<end spoiler.
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Re: Jamie
I don't think they did a bad job with Brienne. She didn't look bad with the sword to me, just graceless, which she's supposed to be. She certainly came across as imposing and confident, if nothing else.
I am curious where they're going to go with Theon's
And another good moment with Margaery. She really is doing a good job of pre-empting Joffrey's darker side and winding him around her finger in the process. If he sees her as an accomplice to his darker urges, she's less likely to become a target.
I don't think they'll have to rewrite it. He gets a replacement hand made of gold at some point, which they can manage by just giving him an armoured glove to wear, and for the scenes he's without it they can wrap a sleeve over the stump. I think the character development there is a little too important to change.
I don't think they did a bad job with Brienne. She didn't look bad with the sword to me, just graceless, which she's supposed to be. She certainly came across as imposing and confident, if nothing else.
I am curious where they're going to go with Theon's
torture. Screws into the foot are nasty and all, but the torture we saw really didn't seem to encompass the soul-destroying torment he experienced in the books. Then again, I don't recall an escape attempt by his sister that early on, and I'm wondering if the really nasty stuff will happen after whatever failed escape happens next episode.
And another good moment with Margaery. She really is doing a good job of pre-empting Joffrey's darker side and winding him around her finger in the process. If he sees her as an accomplice to his darker urges, she's less likely to become a target.
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I actually kind of wonder if they are setting up Joffery... Spoilers: ...so that his wedding will have even more of an element of vengeance for the viewers. Seems like he could really fall for this girl. Shame she doesn't feel the same way...The scene in his bedchamber with Margery was just so well done. The look on her face when he said he wanted to make "that perversion" punishable by death was very eloquent.
It breaks my heart a little every time they linger on the smoking ruins of Winterfell in the credits.
I did think that having Catelyn confess that she considered all their tragedy to be her fault for not loving Jon (which I don't think she ever had a second thought about in the books) was a good move. And moving.
She also had a bit of a trade off here. Didn't get to say goodbye to her father, but also wasn't told (spoilers in case this happens later)... her sons were dead.
I also think that we saw the first glimpse of how Shae ... could eventually end up betraying and humiliating Tyrion, given that her character has been quite different from the books.
Do we actually think the boy was sent by Theon's sister? He might just be a torturer's trick to make Theon feel more broken when his hope is taken away.... But I think Theon's storyline could go anywhere at this point, so I have no idea.
Whew. Sorry, I've been dying to talk about it with someone!
It breaks my heart a little every time they linger on the smoking ruins of Winterfell in the credits.
I did think that having Catelyn confess that she considered all their tragedy to be her fault for not loving Jon (which I don't think she ever had a second thought about in the books) was a good move. And moving.
She also had a bit of a trade off here. Didn't get to say goodbye to her father, but also wasn't told (spoilers in case this happens later)... her sons were dead.
I also think that we saw the first glimpse of how Shae ... could eventually end up betraying and humiliating Tyrion, given that her character has been quite different from the books.
Do we actually think the boy was sent by Theon's sister? He might just be a torturer's trick to make Theon feel more broken when his hope is taken away.... But I think Theon's storyline could go anywhere at this point, so I have no idea.
Whew. Sorry, I've been dying to talk about it with someone!
Well, a lot of readers complained about how long it took Martin to get from point A to point B, to C, to D, etc. I think HBO is taking short cuts and rewrites to keep each episode moving, and each season interesting. Otherwise, Arya will be a full grown woman by time they get to books 5-7....
Margaery is an amazing character. You can see her carefully winding Joffrey's sadistic urges around his interest in her, making herself his partner in evil. She's getting him thinking, "Hey, you know what's cooler than killing people with crossbows? Watching my future queen killing people with crossbows. In a revealing dress."
The important part of Joffrey's thinking because I don't think our fearless King has ventured south of the belly button yet...
I was actually wondering during the episode if Joffrey is still a virgin. I remember that in the last season Tyrion sent Joffrey a couple of hookers to keep him entertained and Joffrey never touched either of them - and I thought in this episode that Joffrey flinches slightly when Margaery reaches out toward him. Margaery never tries touching him after this (stroking his crossbow suggestively instead) and I think she has him pegged as a nervous virgin. Fascinating scene.
Martin never did write or hint that Joffrey was experienced, but yes, that scene pretty much told everyone he is...inexperienced.
Margaery on the other hand, even though Renly did not touch her, gives the impression she is very experienced.
Margaery on the other hand, even though Renly did not touch her, gives the impression she is very experienced.
There is only one suitable King amongst the lot, Tyrion! if not him then he can act as regent for Joffrey's younger brother and keep him under control. As for the dragons they are clearly only there to kill off the white walkers!
According to legend, the Dragon's only ventured North, once, when a Targaryen visited the wall. I forget which one, but I think it was during the reign of of Aegon II or Aegon the III, when the last of the dragon's died.
As to Tyrion acting as regent for Joffrey's younger brother, don't hold your breath.
As to Tyrion acting as regent for Joffrey's younger brother, don't hold your breath.
On Jaime....
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RzI9v_B4sxw
Spoiler ... >>>> Look at the above trailer. Right at the 00:40 - 00:41 mark. That's Jaime. Probably getting his hand cut off. There's no way they would leave that out of the series. It's part of what makes Jaime human to the readers/audience, that and him going back to save Brienne from the bear. >>>>> End
Solid episode. I LOVE Margaery. Love love love her. Dormer is knocking this out of the park. The way she plays and toys with Joffrey. She is more worthy an opponent for Cersei than anyone because both are women and both must use the power and wiles given to them. I smell more showdowns between these two.
They are also setting things up with Tyrion rather well ....
Spoiler >>>> Him talking about Sansa to Shae. That's going to be hella fun to watch Peter Dinklage play the part of husband-to-be. Oh boy. <<<<<
I liked the Reeds, especially Jojen. That actor is awesome and I love what I have seen him in so far. Meera is sassy, which I like.
Theon, who knows. Alfie Allen is an amazing actor. I would want them to push him (and his character) to the same lengths as in the books.
I also liked the swordfight between Jaime and Brienne. I thought they did a good job of showing what sort of fighter she was and that's important to Jaime beginning to respect her more. She freaking owned him and I'm pretty impressed with Gwendoline Christie's acting chops as well as her ability to handle herself in the fight scenes.
I see so few women in battle (in film/television) who make me think, "oh shit, they could whoop my ass." Brienne is definitely one of them.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RzI9v_B4sxw
Spoiler ... >>>> Look at the above trailer. Right at the 00:40 - 00:41 mark. That's Jaime. Probably getting his hand cut off. There's no way they would leave that out of the series. It's part of what makes Jaime human to the readers/audience, that and him going back to save Brienne from the bear.
>>>>> EndSolid episode. I LOVE Margaery. Love love love her. Dormer is knocking this out of the park. The way she plays and toys with Joffrey. She is more worthy an opponent for Cersei than anyone because both are women and both must use the power and wiles given to them. I smell more showdowns between these two.
They are also setting things up with Tyrion rather well ....
Spoiler >>>> Him talking about Sansa to Shae. That's going to be hella fun to watch Peter Dinklage play the part of husband-to-be. Oh boy. <<<<<
I liked the Reeds, especially Jojen. That actor is awesome and I love what I have seen him in so far. Meera is sassy, which I like.
Theon, who knows.
Alfie Allen is an amazing actor. I would want them to push him (and his character) to the same lengths as in the books.I also liked the swordfight between Jaime and Brienne. I thought they did a good job of showing what sort of fighter she was and that's important to Jaime beginning to respect her more. She freaking owned him and I'm pretty impressed with Gwendoline Christie's acting chops as well as her ability to handle herself in the fight scenes.
I see so few women in battle (in film/television) who make me think, "oh shit, they could whoop my ass." Brienne is definitely one of them.
Craster...
Here is the thing about the Brienne and Jammie sword fight. It looked choreographed, and I really dislike it when a fight looks too choreographed.
Yes, Brienne uses brute force over finesse, as she is a large woman and all that Armour wears anyone down. And after a year of captivity, Jammie is a bit rusty and weak from lack of proper food and exercise. So I understand Jammie not engaging Brienne until he figured her out. But if you think about how fast Jammie moved when he took Brienne's sword from her, shed his cloak and cut the robe all in a single move, that is how the scene should have played out. Show us Brienne matching Jammie sword strike for sword strike and skip all the pretty stances that don't mean a thing in a real fight. Other than to show your opponent which leg you'll lead with...
I was in the SCA, many years ago, and excelled at two sword and great sword. In one-on-one melees, I would dance with my opponent to start with, watching their foot work as well as their eyes, to figure them out, as they did me. But you can't tell how good someone is just by their stances and counter stances. You have to engage and Jammie never really engaged Brienne with too much seriousness as he would in a life and death situation. IMHO.
Look at when Jammie fought Ned, there was no slowness to the engagement, no dancing to figure out Ned's weakness, and a whole lot less talking. Ned is a large man himself and moves about as slow as Brienne, and yet, Ned held his own for the most part against Jammie.
I guess the sword fights of early Earl Flynn movies spoiled me, they looked very plausible and at full speed.
I do agree that the actress portraying Brienne is doing an excellent job...
Here is the thing about the Brienne and Jammie sword fight. It looked choreographed, and I really dislike it when a fight looks too choreographed.
Yes, Brienne uses brute force over finesse, as she is a large woman and all that Armour wears anyone down. And after a year of captivity, Jammie is a bit rusty and weak from lack of proper food and exercise. So I understand Jammie not engaging Brienne until he figured her out. But if you think about how fast Jammie moved when he took Brienne's sword from her, shed his cloak and cut the robe all in a single move, that is how the scene should have played out. Show us Brienne matching Jammie sword strike for sword strike and skip all the pretty stances that don't mean a thing in a real fight. Other than to show your opponent which leg you'll lead with...
I was in the SCA, many years ago, and excelled at two sword and great sword. In one-on-one melees, I would dance with my opponent to start with, watching their foot work as well as their eyes, to figure them out, as they did me. But you can't tell how good someone is just by their stances and counter stances. You have to engage and Jammie never really engaged Brienne with too much seriousness as he would in a life and death situation. IMHO.
Look at when Jammie fought Ned, there was no slowness to the engagement, no dancing to figure out Ned's weakness, and a whole lot less talking. Ned is a large man himself and moves about as slow as Brienne, and yet, Ned held his own for the most part against Jammie.
I guess the sword fights of early Earl Flynn movies spoiled me, they looked very plausible and at full speed.
I do agree that the actress portraying Brienne is doing an excellent job...
Feh, I wasn't in the SCA. It doesn't bother me. Knowing what I do about Brienne, she was big, a little slow, clunky. This was pretty much the fight we saw. She's a clod who never backs down. A bull in a china shop. She is the opposite of Syrio and his water-dancing.
Jaime is out of practice, but still deadly. And he was in chains.
Jaime is out of practice, but still deadly. And he was in chains.