School Uses Girl as Rape "Bait;" Fails to Stop The Rape

Fruitbat · Sep 23, 2014

I think if it all happened as the articles state, it was a stunningly idiotic plan, went tragically wrong, and they've shredded the boy's history to try to cover their butts.

Xelebes · Sep 23, 2014

So it's got me wondering. Why were they doing sting operations? Did they have experience doing such? What matters were they attempting to get the sting on? What were their successes and more importantly, what were their failures?

Lyv · Feb 13, 2015

Update:

Alabama School Wants Alleged Rape Victim to Reveal Name

A teenager who says she was raped after a school worker tried to use her as bait to catch an alleged sexual predator should be forced to publicly reveal her name to pursue a lawsuit, an Alabama school system argued in court.

Madison County schools filed documents with the 11th U.S. Circuit Court of Appeals this week opposing anonymity for a now-19-year-old woman who maintains she was raped at school at age 14 during a scheme hatched by a teacher's aide to catch another student accused of improper sexual advances.

A lawyer for the young woman called the system's position unusual since victims of sexual assaults often are allowed to use only their initials or a pseudonym like "Jane Doe" in civil lawsuits.

Disgusting.

Williebee · Feb 13, 2015

Perhaps. But the actual meat of this new development is buried at the bottom of the linked story.

Mastando said the young woman now wants to be included as a plaintiff in the case since she is no longer a minor.

"It's a pretty routine idea that now that she is an adult she should be able to handle her own affairs and that she should be able to remain anonymous because of her age when this happened," she said.

School officials contend the young woman doesn't meet court standards for being allowed to pursue a lawsuit anonymously.

The suit was filed by her father. She wants to be included as an adult. (I shall choose to admire her courage.) This may well change things, legally. I don't know.

Lyv · Feb 13, 2015

Williebee said:
Perhaps. But the actual meat of this new development is buried at the bottom of the linked story.

True. I never know where to quote from.

The suit was filed by her father. She wants to be included as an adult. (I shall choose to admire her courage.) This may well change things, legally. I don't know.

The article states that adult victims often use initials or Jane Doe, so I don't see how. She's choosing to be added on now, because she is now old enough, and was a child when it happened. But if children can be anonymous and adult victims can be anonymous, I can't see why she should be forced to be identified. I'm going to watch for updates.

Toothpaste · Feb 13, 2015

I assume it must be different in that part of the USA, but here in Ontario Canada one of the major misconceptions people have when reporting assault or rape is that their name will be made public. It's one of the many reasons that the victims gave for not reporting Jian Ghomeshi. After the police explained that there is no obligation for the victim to go public, suddenly many women began reporting to the police and there are now I think 4 women who have officially charged Ghomeshi, only one of whom has shared her name publicly.

I can absolutely understand if the law is different in Alabama, but considering what other posters here have said on the subject, I think this is just intimidation pure and simple.

regdog · Feb 13, 2015

The US has rape shield laws.

The naming of the victim is a way to try and shame, or embarrass her, or make other girls/women too afraid to come forward, believing they will be publicly named.

LittlePinto · Feb 13, 2015

regdog said:
The US has rape shield laws.

The naming of the victim is a way to try and shame, or embarrass her, or make other girls/women too afraid to come forward, believing they will be publicly named.

Yeah, the only reason the school could have for wanting her publicly named is to make her life horrible. Probably so that she'll drop the suit to just make it go away.

Toothpaste · Feb 13, 2015

So then I guess my question is what possible judge would allow that? Is it even possible to agree to revealing a victim's name without her consent? What possible circumstance could there be in which a victim is forced to do it and it be a just and right choice?

RedRajah · Feb 13, 2015

Toothpaste said:
So then I guess my question is what possible judge would allow that?

Too many of them, unfortunately.

Williebee · Feb 13, 2015

Lyv said:
The article states that adult victims often use initials or Jane Doe, so I don't see how.

Oh, I agree, and there are rape shield laws, and any number of previous cases where rape victims' identities were shielded. I'm just wondering if there isn't some clumsy language in a law there that makes the being added to the complaint require her being named. I hope not.

robeiae · Feb 13, 2015

Williebee said:
Oh, I agree, and there are rape shield laws, and any number of previous cases where rape victims' identities were shielded. I'm just wondering if there isn't some clumsy language in a law there that makes the being added to the complaint require her being named. I hope not.

http://www.newsroomlawblog.com/2008...pts-standard-for-filing-lawsuits-anonymously/

Ravioli · Feb 14, 2015

Another life destroyed by pointless stupidity because people chose not to compete with apes for intelligence and go around and r/ape and let r/ape like cavemen.

School Uses Girl as Rape "Bait;" Fails to Stop The Rape

Fruitbat

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Xelebes

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Lyv

I meant to do that.

Williebee

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Lyv

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Toothpaste

THE RECKLESS RESCUE is out now!

regdog

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LittlePinto

Perpetually confused

Toothpaste

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RedRajah

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Williebee

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robeiae

Touch and go

Ravioli

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