Borderline personality disorder

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King Neptune - She changed it back the next day. Everyone thought it was hilarious, actually. No harm done in the end. No one uses Wikipedia because they now know anyone can screw with it.

Whether she put it back the next day is not relevant, nor is it relevant that she did it to show that wikis can be wrong. She deliberately put fallacious information on wikipedia; if she had done it in ignorance, then I could forgive it, but on purpose, regardless of the purpose; that is unacceptable behavior. I suggest that you make a formal complaint to whoever might be over her. Even if there is no direct evidence anymore, the testimony of however many students is worth something. She should be fired for major intellectual dishonesty. What she did was worse than plagiarism.
 

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Negative Zero, Can I ask a silly question? Is your MC having actual diagnosable BPD crucial to the story, or does your MC just have a difficult personality (for lack of a better term?)? I think, to your question about how other people around your MC would respond, it all depends. I've noticed with the people I've known who have BPD, there's a difference between those who recognize something is seriously wrong and try to help, and those who think the person is a narcissist/full of shit/crazy, etc. The person with BPD isn't necessarily going to not realize and/or ignore that something is wrong. It's just a very complicated disorder that involves a lot of self-hate and denial, as well as very rapidly shifting emotional states.
 

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KingNeptune - I personally find no problem with it whatsoever. If the ones who saw it were silly enough to believe it was true, then that's their own fault. We've been specifically told, time and time again, that we will lose a lot of points if we use unreliable sources such as Wikipedia. No one reported her because she was simply teaching a well-needed lesson.

mayqueen - I'm not saying he does have BPD haha. I've just been told many times that it seems as though he does, so I thought it would be a good idea to find out what BPD was exactly. If he does, I'll just keep writing, though with a little more knowledge about what's going on. If he doesn't, then, again, I'll just keep writing. It honestly doesn't matter to me. It definitely isn't crucial to the story. Even if he does, it most likely will never be diagnosed. It just affects his relationships with everyone around him and how he sees things.
 

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That's Munchausen Syndrome and definitely is attention seeking which can arguably be a form of narcissism.

You seem to be dismissing one particular symptom of Borderline Personality Disorder (ie - the genuine mental suffering that can frequently only be relieved by physical self-harm) as being an entire syndrome distinct from the condition that includes the original symptom you're dismissing.

Munchausen Syndrome is not the same thing as Borderline Personality Disorder.

Munchausen Syndrome is not the same thing as any particular symptom of Borderline Personality Disorder.

The presence of Munchausen Syndrome is not a part of the diagnostic criteria for Borderline Personality Disorder.

There...can...be...a...lot...of overlap.
Yes, I know. I said that in my original post.

You can also find overlap between Histrionic Personality Disorder and Borderline or Narcissistic or Antisocial and all the rest.

I don't imagine that the presence of Borderline Personality Disorder precludes the possibility of Munchausen Syndrome any more than it precludes the possibility of high cholesterol or Diabetes or Schizophrenia but seriously George, self-harming behaviour which is inflicted in order to relieve mental pain is not necessarily a manifestation of Munchausen Syndrome, even if the client does present to A & E for sutures or whatever.
 
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You know...I think I'll take the information I've gotten from this and go...

Thanks to everyone who commented, and I really hope you guys have fun fighting. I'd stay and continue duking it out if I didn't have NaNoWriMo to catch up on. xD
 

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Some Borderline PD's are seriously difficult to look after and some of them have Narcissistic traits as well as Borderline traits. Some will compete or feign symptoms that seem cool. I've known one to be so impressed by another client with Dissociative Identity Disorder that she pretended to have a second personality herself.

However, I don't believe that "clinical narcissism" is a main component of Borderline Personality Disorder and at the risk of breaking the RYFW rule, I have to say, "bullshit" to your assertion.

When mental pain and existential misery is so intense that only physical pain brought about by self-harm can actually bring relief, how does that constitute manipulating everyone around one for one's own purposes?

Are you sure you're not confusing Narcissistic Personality Disorder with Borderline?

That doesn't sound even remotely like the majority of classic Borderline PD's I work with at a specialist residential unit which exists solely for Borderline PD's.

I can't speak for the person you're actually responding to but for myself I can say that I'm going to "believe" twenty seven years worth of experience in psychiatric nursing, along with DSM, other professional literature and the experience and understanding of other nurses, psychologists and psychiatrists and the experiential understanding of borderline PD's many of whom, (even though they can be bloody difficult,) have a genuine capacity for empathy which differentiates them from narcissistic PD's, antisocials, psychopaths and sociopaths.

Coming back just for a moment to applaud you for this.
 

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I'm stepping in for the room mod, who isn't here right now.

The main component of all three is clinical narcissism. And how is it that a BPD is thinking of other's needs when they are manipulating everyone around them for their own purposes? They must be the center of attention--at any cost.

But I wont argue. Go ahead and "believe" what you will.

My bold.

Neegh, you're new to AW, which is probably why you haven't yet got to grips with how things are done here. We have just one rule: respect your fellow writer. Snarky comments like that don't fit in with that rule.

Please go and read the Newbie Guide before you comment here again.

Meanwhile I'll close this thread, as the OP has said he's got enough to go on now. Thank you, everyone, for your participation.
 
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