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I don't usually watch this show, but I sure enjoyed this one. There's some definite schadenfreude at watching such self-aggrandizing, self-entitled pricks get all their bullshit and excuses shot down, calmly but firmly, by someone in a strong enough position to do it right.

After everything they've put their poor employees through, this seems like just desserts.
 

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Wait, I was told there were porn links in this thread...


But the reality TV stuff, it looks like a set-up to me. No one could be as stupid and as obnoxious as that couple appears to be.

Could they?

I went to yelp and checked out the reviews for the place from before Kichen Nightmares, and they argued with and harassed anyone who left a bad review the past 2 years. So this behavior isn't new.
 

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I guess I just can't fathom how they've stayed in business. They must have blown through a boatload of money.

Well, Amy (Amanda) is an ex-felon. Maybe she stole the money to fund this disaster. Certainly would fit her MO.
 

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Well, Amy (Amanda) is an ex-felon. Maybe she stole the money to fund this disaster. Certainly would fit her MO.

One of the theories being passed around is that it's a front for money laundering (hence why Samy never let the servers use the POS).
 

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One of the theories being passed around is that it's a front for money laundering (hence why Samy never let the servers use the POS).

I have a hard time believing that ex-cons are capable of changing their spots. Once a felon, always a felon, IMO.

Not to say there aren't exceptions to that rule, of course...
 

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This all sounds very familiar.

Isn't this just a rehash of "When authors behave badly," except instead of authors it's chefs?

I see that same sense of being anointed, that since God wants them to do this work they don't have to actually do the work, of trying to control all reviews and attacking reviewers, of arguing with everyone who tries to help, of arguing with everyone who does not praise their product to the skies, of suspicious internet behavior attacking their critics in the vilest of terms which they profess innocence of.

Yeah, this all sounds very familiar indeed.
 

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This all sounds very familiar.

Isn't this just a rehash of "When authors behave badly," except instead of authors it's chefs?

I see that same sense of being anointed, that since God wants them to do this work they don't have to actually do the work, of trying to control all reviews and attacking reviewers, of arguing with everyone who tries to help, of arguing with everyone who does not praise their product to the skies, of suspicious internet behavior attacking their critics in the vilest of terms which they profess innocence of.

Yeah, this all sounds very familiar indeed.

I love it when we can draw comparisons from anything to writing. :D
 

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This all sounds very familiar.

Isn't this just a rehash of "When authors behave badly," except instead of authors it's chefs?.

Though few authors exploding at reviews on the internet get on a reality show and hold press conferences about it afterwards.

Something I'll find interesting is what the food is like at the conference. There's a lot of assumption going around that they're deluded, in the sense of being diagnosable with a mental illness level of deluded. But given the number of lies they've been caught out on, I'm not going to be too quick to assume the rest isn't a lie too. If the food goes through a miraculous improvement, that suggests the aggressive insistence of nothing being wrong was an attempt to bully Gordon into changing his mind, rather than an actual belief that the food was okay.

On credit where its due notes, it'd be good if someone tracks down the baker. The reviews generally agreed the cakes were good, so someone out there deserves the credit. And probably sells their cakes for a lot less. (I know some of the online pictures were tracked down, but presumably the source of products is somewhere local.)
 

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Someone, well, several people have tracked down the real bakeries via the images on the Web site.

And there are a bunch of posts about this in the authors behaving badly thread.
 

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Hmm.... they had POS and wouldn't let the staff use them? That's the easiest way to keep track of both stock and money. Crooked, definitely.
 

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Hmm.... they had POS and wouldn't let the staff use them? That's the easiest way to keep track of both stock and money. Crooked, definitely.

Yes, Gordon even asked the servers if they knew how to use POS, and they did, and they had at all their other jobs.

And, yes, this is a LOT like "authors behaving badly." Amy kept referring to the online bloggers and "haters" who "decided to make up lies and say the food was terrible." And that she and her husband were, "the only ones brave enough to stand up to them." As if they had to be lying, because it just wasn't possible that anybody, anywhere just didn't like the food or the service. As if you need to "stand up to" someone who dares criticize what you do. They can't ever do anything wrong. It's just that everyone else is out to get them.
 

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There've been a recent spate of posts from Amy claiming somebody hacked into their accounts (all of them! srsly?) and there's Absolutely No Way she would have posted such evil, awful, harassing posts.

Has she done the time-honored "I know you are, but what am I?" rebuttal?
 

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Wait, I was told there were porn links in this thread...


But the reality TV stuff, it looks like a set-up to me. No one could be as stupid and as obnoxious as that couple appears to be.

Could they?
Obviously we were misled. I tried for hours and was never able to get the porn site to appear.
 

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On their Facebook page, they have a post describing their "Grand Re-Opening". To quote two parts of that post, which says a lot about the owners:

The owners will likely be holding a press conference before the Grand Re-Opening and answer falsehoods depicted on a reality television show, including assertions that the restaurant confiscates tips from servers.

In fact, wait staff is paid $8-$14 per hour, two and half to nearly five times the standard hourly wage for servers.

1. The reason there are "assertions" about the restaurant taking tips from servers is because the owners themselves said that they take servers' tips on Kitchen Nightmares.

2. I don't see how that's supposed to be anywhere near "five times the standard hourly wage for servers" given that minimum wage in Arizona is $7.80.

There's always the possibility of something productive coming out of this, though: a Weird Al song about Amy's Baking Company. :D
 

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2. I don't see how that's supposed to be anywhere near "five times the standard hourly wage for servers" given that minimum wage in Arizona is $7.80.

I'm not sure how it is in AZ, but here in PA, the minimum wage for tipped employees is $2.83. The "normal" minimum wage here is $7.25.

Still, they shouldn't be pocketing the tips.
 

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I'm not sure how it is in AZ, but here in PA, the minimum wage for tipped employees is $2.83. The "normal" minimum wage here is $7.25.

Still, they shouldn't be pocketing the tips.

Oh, I see. But even then, minimum wage for tipped employees in Arizona is $4.80, which is nowhere near five times less than what ABC pays, not taking into account how much an average server would make with tips.
 

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Where do I go with this - I saw SEVERAL peeps post about this bakery/restaurant meltdown on Facebook, but if it was in my Twitter, G+ feed or an email list posting, I missed it. Not that I'm saying anything about different social networks, I'm just stating a fact...

At least it fulfills my daily quota of drama.
Second link opened up a ton of new tabs with random crap on them (at least they seemed random; I didn't really look at them. I didn't notice any porn, though--tends to be rather obvious when it's there.) So I second something wrong with the second link.
I reconstructed ach-tee-tee-pee second link and went to it, it looked like a news story, but I always run NoScript which is pretty reliable at keeping Firefox from loading such shenanigans. I didn't dare allow any scrips to see what happens.
...
But I do want to ask, even if it is true that my ipad may have briefly at some point hit an unsavory website, why does that give anyone the right to hijack a legitimate news link and send me to their foul app instead?
There's no "right" there, the people who do this are criminals. They'll do anything to get more hits on their sites.
Ugh - that's the worst. A couple of years ago, I was helping someone find clipart for a school project and clicked on a cartoonish border design that had a porn link hidden behind it. There's no excuse for hiding those links behind material aimed at kids other than the site owner is trying bring kids onto their site.

(not saying the link you clicked was meant for kids, btw, just a tangent)
As long as it doesn't get the attention of the authorities, they don't care. Porn tends to be advertised through "affiliate links" and they probably get paid by the "click" (which means each window that gets opened).
Though few authors exploding at reviews on the internet get on a reality show and hold press conferences about it afterwards.
No doubt there are authors who would give body parts to be part of a meltdown on TV get on a reality show, but I doubt such a show would find anything less than a well-known author to be interesting enough.
There've been a recent spate of posts from Amy claiming somebody hacked into their accounts (all of them! srsly?) and there's Absolutely No Way she would have posted such evil, awful, harassing posts.

Has she done the time-honored "I know you are, but what am I?" rebuttal?
"Thank you to all the special people who have been supporting me in private messages through all of this."
Obviously we were misled. I tried for hours and was never able to get the porn site to appear.
Lucky for your computer! :D
Maybe their next TV appearance should be on Dr. Phil.
"So, Amy, have you been talking with your Shitbrains Anonymous sponsor?"
 

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From what I hear, the owners are going to do an interview on Sunday. Not quite sure which channel it will be on...
 

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Isn't this just a rehash of "When authors behave badly," except instead of authors it's chefs?

This is a person who thinks it's a good idea to put bleu cheese AND garlic aioli AND white truffle oil on a burger...with bacon bits.

That's no chef.