Opinions of Palin/Biden debate

rugcat · Oct 5, 2008

Here's a view of Palin's debate performance from the UK.

From the (left leaning) Guardian:

http://www.guardian.co.uk/commentisfree/cifamerica/2008/oct/03/sarah.palin.debate.feminism

VGrossack · Oct 5, 2008

Sweetlebee said:
When asked about her Achille's heel, she went on and on about all the great things she's done and will do. It showed a lack of humility, introspectiveness, and honesty. There was another instance of this, something about an example of a long-held belief that she's had to change. I can't remember the wording, but her answer was she had to pass a state budget she didn't agree with. Again, it said "I'm pretty darn perfect so it's hard to find an example in answer to your question."

I don't think she understood the question. I don't think she knew the meaning of the phrase "Achilles' heel..." There was no comprehension in her answer or her demeanor.

I thought she was simply too flippant for a serious debate. Calling the senator "Joe" (so she could do some rhymes), while he always referred to her as Governor Palin.

Here's a link with some reactions of Republicans:

http://www.dailykos.com/story/2008/10/5/7520/71415/807/620582

Snowstorm · Oct 5, 2008

Thanks, rugcat, for the link. That's telling it like it is! I can't help but wonder how much more foolish Americans look to the Europeans after this embarrassment.

dmytryp · Oct 5, 2008

Snowstorm said:
Thanks, rugcat, for the link. That's telling it like it is! I can't help but wonder how much more foolish Americans look to the Europeans after this embarrassment.

dmytryp · Oct 5, 2008

rugcat said:
Here's a view of Palin's debate performance from the UK.

From the (left leaning) Guardian:

http://www.guardian.co.uk/commentisfree/cifamerica/2008/oct/03/sarah.palin.debate.feminism

lol, Rug. "Left leaning"? By american standards, most of the European press is "left leaning" and the "Guardian" is so far to the left, it can't see the center.

rugcat · Oct 5, 2008

dmytryp said:
lol, Rug. "Left leaning"? By american standards, most of the European press is "left leaning" and the "Guardian" is so far to the left, it can't see the center.

You sound like Fox News talking about MSNBC.

The Guardian is a liberal paper. That's about it. I happen to think that particular column is spot on (to use a UKism) which is one of the reasons I linked it. I'm aware that there are other views.

Takvah · Oct 5, 2008

Snowstorm said:
Thanks, rugcat, for the link. That's telling it like it is! I can't help but wonder how much more foolish Americans look to the Europeans after this embarrassment.

I know that every day of my life I hold my head in shame for being called an "American". Why? Well because the world thinks we're all idiots. Technically, I am of German and Norwegian decent. Maybe I should change my name to Klaus or Leif so that I not be forced to suffer this embarrassment.

The self-loathing is just laughable... really, it is. If Europe be the bar by which we as a nation are measured, that's NEWS TO ME.

Snowstorm · Oct 5, 2008

Takvah, if you're shamed or full of self-loathing then that is your choice. I was referring to Palin's performance was so embarrassing that we (Americans) probably look foolish for her to be a serious contender for VP.

katiemac · Oct 5, 2008

TsukiRyoko said:
This analysis is pretty cool- who would have they'd analyze this? I think stuff like this shows more into their character than what we hear, sometimes. In this case, it emphasizes a lot of what we've discussed so far in the thread- that Palin was dancing around issues and being very stereotypically politician-y. What surprised me, though, was Biden's speaking level. If someone were to ask me before I read that, I would have put him on a higher speaking level than Palin. He used much more business-like terms, particularly toward the beginning of the debate. I found that Palin was much more easy to understand and follow, as far as how she worded herself.

We had a thread on this in the forum. Higher speaking level is not necessarily a good thing. If you run a reading level of your writing in Microsoft Office, for example, it incorporates all kinds of difficulties including passive voice, garbled sentence structure, words per sentence and syllables-per-word. The article doesn't mention how accurate the word program is, so I'd be careful about making it an automatic positive or negative.

dmytryp · Oct 5, 2008

rugcat said:
You sound like Fox News talking about MSNBC.

The Guardian is a liberal paper. That's about it. I happen to think that particular column is spot on (to use a UKism) which is one of the reasons I linked it. I'm aware that there are other views.

Left and right are very different in Europe than in US. Europe, in general is more to the left than US. So, their "left-leaning" sources are hard to the left in American terms. And I said nothing about the piece. I only talked about your choice of words.

Opinions of Palin/Biden debate

rugcat

Lost in the Fog

VGrossack

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Snowstorm

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dmytryp

dmytryp

rugcat

Lost in the Fog

Takvah

Not a D list ego massager...

Snowstorm

Baby plot bunneh sniffs out a clue

katiemac

Five by Five

dmytryp