Good tabletop games for beginners?

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Korabas

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Hey guys,

My wife and I are looking to try out some tabletop games (D&D etc) but have no idea where to start!

We know Settlers of Catan is a good entry-level but were looking for something a little more rpg esque - have seen the Dungeons & Dragons board games online, are they any good?

Can anyone recommend a decent tabletop game for newbies?

Also, what's the best way to find local players? Seems like quite a secretive world!
 

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D&D is a bit clonky. They have put out numerous editions which are completely incompatible with each other.

A lot of longtime D&D players do not care for the very recent 4th edition, which as far as I can tell was overhauled to appeal to video gamers. Earlier editions are findable, but as collectibles a lot of the time.

Quite a few longtime D&D players have swapped over to Pathfinder, which seems to have all the classic elements.
 

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Oh! And you may be able to find local gamers at gaming or hobby shops, where people buy miniatures, paints, etc. Many of the people I have met there have been willing to help explain things to the new and interested.

But I would recommend avoiding Games Workshop stores.
 

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The Munchkin card games are fun little games that take inspiration from D&D and super-simplify it. If you want something more complicated (and less silly), there's a board game called Chaostle that essentially is D&D with simpler rules and pre-made characters. As a warning, though, it's on the pricy side for board games, and my friends and I had to discuss some house rules for the thing. There are a couple scenarios where your character gets stuck somewhere (a pit or something) and it's very difficult to get out, and there are a couple characters that are clearly overpowered.

Also, while I think long-time fans of D&D don't care as much for the 4th (most recent) edition, looking over the player's handbook, it seems to be designed to accommodate new players a bit more. It's still really hard to play without a DM who already knows the game inside and out, though. You're probably better off to join an existing group than starting your own.

To find local players, your best bet is a local games shop. They'll often have various events going on. (They'll also be able to introduce you to new board games.) Alternatively, you can attention a fantasy/science fiction convention in your area.

Best of luck!
 

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Cheers guys, good tips. I'm pretty familiar with the local Game Workshop store as I used to play W40k.. I can see why they would be averse to the tabletop community though.

Sadly it's the only store of its type in my city - even most of our comic shops have closed down! Rubbish!

I better get online and see if I can network with some local groups..
 

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When I was a beginner I found the White Wolf games (i.e Vampire, Werewolf etc) to be pretty good. There's a balance between storytelling and dice-rolling. If you can pick up an old copy of the Vampire: the Masquerade sourcebook (not expensive on ebay from a quick look) it's not a bad place to start IMO. It's not classic fantasy RP like D&D but it has that fun vampy goodness.

Disclaimer... I haven't played a WW game since Vampire:the Masquerade so I don't know about the latest editions and story development so don't know if their recent stuff is any good.
 

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Second Alessandra's suggestion. We have an excellent local games shop (three outlets around town) which caters to gamers, comic collectors, etc., and is chockfull of all manner of interesting stuff. I rarely shop there except at end-of-year gifting time, but it's a great place to find stuff for younger relatives. Last time I was in there they had a rack of intriguing tabletop RPG-style games, similar in concept to the Catan series, but based on things like the Lovecraft Mythos, Pratchett's Discworld, etc. Many of these also have expansion packages. Definitely worth a look if you have a shop like this available.

We need to get some of these based on classic literary fiction:

Bleak House: navigate your hero through the labyrinthine intricacies of the 19th-century British legal system.

Yoknapatawpha: Work your way around the decayed aristocracy of antebellum Mississippi, and may the least loathsome character emerge victorious.

Kafka: Find out what the crime you're being tried for really is, and try to get to the Castle.


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Do you have a particular genre you like to play in?

Meanwhile, I will plug 7th Sea until the cows come home, even if AEG no longer supports the game. Thankfully, DriveThru RPG still sells the pdfs of the game. If you're interested in a melange of pirates, musketeers, vikings, King Arthur, the Spanish Inquisition, trade wars, Machiavelli's "The Prince" and Baba Yaga (and that's just a fraction of the sources!), I highly recommend trying it. :)
 

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Following on from blacbird's suggestions - if you're interested in board games with an RPG element and like the cthulhu mythos then I heartily recommend Arkham Horror and expansions. It's complicated and takes vast unimagined eternities of time (seems to average about 4 hours) but if you like that kind of thing it is awesome.
 

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I've played some of the D&D board games, like Castle Ravenloft, and they're pretty decent if you don't want to play full RPGs.

I'd recommend strongly against Pathfinder or D&D 4e for beginners, because both can be a slog to get started with. Both of them have faster-running intro boxed sets, though, if you can get them.

Of course, if you'd prefer an RPG that's not medieval D&D-esque fantasy, there's plenty more out there, often with free introductory rules that are sometimes cleaner and more playable than the full games. If you've got any particular genre you're interested in, I'm sure I could name some newbie-friendly games that don't involve loooooong character creation and other stuff.
 

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SmallWorld is fun. We discovered it during the last TableTop Day and bought it right then and there!

May I suggest the Tabletop web series? Wil Wheaton and company go through a lot of games and you'll probably find something there!

Yeah, we saw Smallworld and Settlers of Catan on the Tabletop show - my wife follows Geek and Sundry and started watching these, which is why I think she wants to get into tabletop games. We're fans of The Guild, etc, and both of us were miniature gamers when we were younger.


Do you have a particular genre you like to play in?

For me, definitely Fantasy. 7th Sea does sound pretty cool though.


I've played some of the D&D board games, like Castle Ravenloft, and they're pretty decent if you don't want to play full RPGs.
... If you've got any particular genre you're interested in, I'm sure I could name some newbie-friendly games that don't involve loooooong character creation and other stuff.

This is what i've been looking at - the D&D board games. I know that WE would like them, but I would quite like to drag a few friends on board as well, and not sure how they would get on.
Do you think the D&D board games are a good starting point for less geeky folk to get involved in this as well?
 

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This is what i've been looking at - the D&D board games. I know that WE would like them, but I would quite like to drag a few friends on board as well, and not sure how they would get on.
Do you think the D&D board games are a good starting point for less geeky folk to get involved in this as well?

They're still fantasy and geeky, but they're a _heck_ of a lot easier to get into than full-fledged tabletop RPGs. You can hand someone a character card and some tokens and they're pretty much ready to play.
 

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I've played Castle Ravenloft--it was fun and easy to get into. As for getting less geeky folk to play, one of the players in my old D&D group hadn't done anything geekier than watch Star Wars before our first campaign. Fun is fun, though, especially when a half dozen adults are sitting around a table playing pretend and rolling dice.

I haven't played in about a year--college ended, people scattered, but it really is great fun. I say either go for the board game or (as others have said) wander into a game shop--they are usually great places to find new games and other players.
 

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Hey, thanks for all the great advice guys. Think we may pick up one of the D&D board games at some point then as a first step! Looking forward to it.

Does anyone play actual D&D, or similar rpg games, online at all - via email or messaging?
 

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Maybe try the Ravenloft D&D board game. It's a long one, but was pretty fun. Same with the Battlestar Galactica board game.

If you want to try something that runs shorter, I suggest Munchkin or House on Haunted Hill.

If you want to try an actual tabletop RPG, then old White Wolf (3rd or 3.5 edition) vampire/werewolf is a good place to start. Can't speak for the newer stuff.

Welcome to the wonderful world of gaming! :)
 

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The Munchkin card games are fun little games that take inspiration from D&D and super-simplify it. If you want something more complicated (and less silly), there's a board game called Chaostle that essentially is D&D with simpler rules and pre-made characters. As a warning, though, it's on the pricy side for board games, and my friends and I had to discuss some house rules for the thing. There are a couple scenarios where your character gets stuck somewhere (a pit or something) and it's very difficult to get out, and there are a couple characters that are clearly overpowered.

Katrina, there is a new and improved Chaostle rulebook with copyright 2012 along the bottom. You can request a free copy by providing a mailing address to [email protected].

You could also find the game much cheaper if you shop around online. An expansion was released recently too!
 

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In Chaostle you can... be a unicorn?? What!

Looks like this one might be tricky to get hold of in the UK though, where I live. 8(
 
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