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Don't feel bad Para - it took me along time to figure it out :)
 

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As their late night sessions start to blossom into something more, Kaye wonders exactly what happened back in Skylar’s hometown, and he starts to wonder if getting off the ranch is really worth leaving Kaye behind.

WHERE THERE’S SMOKE is a young adult romance complete at 60,000 words. It will appeal to horse and romance lovers alike, especially fans of Lauren Brooke’s Heartland series. I am currently working on a dystopian where everyone is tested at birth for genes that cause people to kill, lie, and cheat featuring two boys that begin to question if genes really do mean everything. Thank you for your time and I look forward to hearing from you.

Thanks! These are the last two paragraphs. The lines in purple are the ones I'm questioning. I've been told that the first bit of the first paragraph is cliche. I've been trying to figure out how to make it not cliche but I can't seem to think of anything. I kind of want to do something horse-related but nothing works. Like "When their late night sessions send their hearts galloping..." or something like that. I don't know if I like how that sounds, though.

MH suggests having a line describing your next project but I can't seem to condense CT into one line because I always feel like I have to explain the world-building and the characters. If I knew that I was definitely going to work on Rewind next, I'd put that in instead, but I haven't decided for sure what my next WIP will be.
 

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That first line does sound a bit cliched. I think galloping hearts sounds a bit too much like a pun given the context of the horses. Perhaps their late-night sessions start their pulses racing? Or you could give a specific incident like a near-kiss?

I might slightly correct "will appeal" to "is aimed at", since you can't state with any confidence whether it will appeal to those audiences until it starts selling oodles of copies.

That piece of advice from the agent (is that Merr1lee He1fetz?) is interesting. I haven't heard that one before. You might follow her advice when querying her but possibly not with other agents, since it's not standard, I don't think.
 

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Okay, well, I'm sure you don't want my opinion because frankly my query is terrible, but I think the description of the book is WAY too short. As an agent, I can't really get into the story without hearing more about it. I really think that that first half should give off some appeal; I know its part of a series, but market the book alone. Also, I personally wouldn't reccomend saying that it is a series, because an agent wonders why you have been rejected so many times if you are unpublished with a long series. That's just me, but I really want to read more about the book your querying for. You aren't querying the series, at least not yet, just the one book. Focus more on that one book and give us a better idea of what its about. Include stuff about the series but don't say its a series.
everyone is tested at birth for genes that cause people to kill, lie, and cheat featuring two boys that begin to question if genes really do mean everything
Mix this into the beginning and delete the part about the series.
You don't have to take my advice, though.
 

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That's not the full query - just the last paragraph and the signoff. :)
 

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You can say that they are "head over hooves in love", unless that sounds corny. I think its kinda funny. Good Luck, HR.
 

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Yeah a bit corny... but funny too - unless it is not a comedy :(
 

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Man, this scene is kicking my ass. All this heavy emotional stuff is exhausting. I'm going to go take some painkillers for my headache. :tongue
 

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That first line does sound a bit cliched. I think galloping hearts sounds a bit too much like a pun given the context of the horses. Perhaps their late-night sessions start their pulses racing? Or you could give a specific incident like a near-kiss?

I might slightly correct "will appeal" to "is aimed at", since you can't state with any confidence whether it will appeal to those audiences until it starts selling oodles of copies.

That piece of advice from the agent (is that Merr1lee He1fetz?) is interesting. I haven't heard that one before. You might follow her advice when querying her but possibly not with other agents, since it's not standard, I don't think.

Thanks! Okay. I want to work in a specific example, but their romance is kind of complicated for a query. Their first kiss actually takes place before they start working with Smoke and it's not even a real kiss. Long story.

Point taken. :)

Man*dy Hub*bar*d. She talks about it on her blog here:
http://mandyhubbard.livejournal.com/236498.html

Myst, where are you getting that this is a series? WTS is a standalone.
 
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Yeah. It is funny but I'm not sure if an agent will see it that way...
 

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*chuckles*

get a headache yet? I do with that stuff ALL the time!
 

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Oh, from your last line. I didn't realize that it was pitching a total seperate book, I thought it was pitching the next in the series. Silly me...
 

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Ok, i am trying that extra-line thing in a query I'm about to send
 

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Okay, guys. What do you think about the new line? I've included the rest of the query so that it's not out of context.

Ever since her mother died in a car crash, Kaye’s been terrified of leaving her family’s ranch even for a moment. Despite her dad’s constant urging for her to go away to college, she’s perfectly content to stay and help with his business raising and rehabilitating horses. Everything she’s ever loved is right on the ranch -- her horses, her dad, and the beautiful Nevada landscape.

One summer, a friend of Kaye’s dad sends his son, Skylar, to the ranch so he can learn some responsibility and get away from his criminal lifestyle back home. Skylar only wants to get off the ranch as soon as possible without letting anyone in. His chance comes in the form of a wild gelding named Smoke that not even Kaye can tame. When Kaye catches Skylar working with Smoke late one night, they make a deal: He’ll help her get through to Smoke if she helps him get off the ranch.

As their arrangement grows into a love that sends their hearts galloping, Kaye wonders exactly what happened back in Skylar’s hometown, and he starts to wonder if getting off the ranch is really worth leaving Kaye behind.
*taps fingers* I'm not sure.
 

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Yes, I guess...
I think you misunderstood me or maybe I phrased it wrong when I was talking about the book. It's good; it has a good plot, an intense beginning and ending, strong characters (for the most part). I just said that the plot falters a little in the middle and that some characters aren't very well developed (2 or 3). I still think its good though I highly doubt it will get published... Worth a try, right? I have my hopes for the next one, though. It is REALLY cool.

And also my query has much improved... I think... and is pretty compelling in my opinion but that is thanks to those who edited it in QLH
 

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It's good, but I have a few comments.
You use the word "wonders" too much and "One summer" is blech. It's like saying "once upon a time there was a criminal who wanted to escape from a ranch". Not good. Otherwise, its pretty solid. I also think that the last sentences can pop a bit more than they do. It has the potential to be a good conclusion, but it is written in kind of a dull, uninteresting way. Otherwise, great query.
Good luck!
 

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I'm not feeling the galloping hearts. I guess I find horses actively unsexy, so horse imagery doesn't really do it for me. That's probably personal taste though.
 

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What a night. watched 2 episodes of trueblood i missed and still got 2 left along with torchwood .Anyway, im going to read now. night night xx
 
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