In this day of polling, it will be interesting to gauge the public reaction to LaPierre's statement. I'm betting on heavy disapproval.
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NRA Response To Newtown School Shooting
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In this day of polling, it will be interesting to gauge the public reaction to LaPierre's statement. I'm betting on heavy disapproval.
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To think they had a week to write the speech, and that was the best they could come up with?
Grand Theft Auto makes people go out and shoot people! Just like Skyrim makes people blast lightning from their fingers at wildlife!
Grand Theft Auto makes people go out and shoot people! Just like Skyrim makes people blast lightning from their fingers at wildlife!
just thought I'd let you all know that apparently some UK news stations are having to preface their reports on this by stating that it's not a parody.
The best outcome for this particular event would be for NRA members to finally realize that Wayne LaPierre is a hopeless asshat, and kick him out.
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Okay, Mr. LaPierre. You want to sell me a gun? I'll buy a gun. Sell it to me. I dare you.
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If we register everyone who's been treated for mental illness, only the untreated mentally ill will have guns. Or something like that.
Yeah, the fact that a lot of people support the inverse.
I think they're both a terrible idea, personally.
The NRA is tone deaf and brain dead.
A national database of the mentally ill? Sure thing. No way that could encroach on their Constitutional rights.
As far as violent video games goes, let's apply the NRA logic to it. Violent video games don't kill. Gamers do.
As far as Wayne LaPierre's suggestion to put an armed guard in every school it would cost over $5 billion to implement his batshit plan. I was under the impression this country is broke and can't afford that kind of new spending.
To sum up Wayne LaPierre's press conference, his remarks prove what most of us already knew.
1. It is better to remain silent and be thought a fool than to speak and remove all doubt.
2. Wayne LaPierre is a fool. And a stupid asshole too.
A national database of the mentally ill? Sure thing. No way that could encroach on their Constitutional rights.
As far as violent video games goes, let's apply the NRA logic to it. Violent video games don't kill. Gamers do.
As far as Wayne LaPierre's suggestion to put an armed guard in every school it would cost over $5 billion to implement his batshit plan. I was under the impression this country is broke and can't afford that kind of new spending.
To sum up Wayne LaPierre's press conference, his remarks prove what most of us already knew.
1. It is better to remain silent and be thought a fool than to speak and remove all doubt.
2. Wayne LaPierre is a fool. And a stupid asshole too.
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Can we even train 100,000 police officers in a year? That's the friggin Army of the Potomac worth of police officers.
Yeah, any and all respect I had for the NRA went down the tubes when they threw Bulletstorm in with Slaughterhouse.
Slaughterhouse was a glitchy, crappy piece of 80s retro trash trying to pander to the gore and titty crowd.
Bulletstorm was a whacky adventure full of remarkably creative profanity, a really clever focus on trick-shots as central gameplay, and had a...surprisingly well done character arc and plot.
Also, you know...their spokesperson seems to be a fucking vampire.
Slaughterhouse was a glitchy, crappy piece of 80s retro trash trying to pander to the gore and titty crowd.
Bulletstorm was a whacky adventure full of remarkably creative profanity, a really clever focus on trick-shots as central gameplay, and had a...surprisingly well done character arc and plot.
Also, you know...their spokesperson seems to be a fucking vampire.
Would one officer per school be enough? Probably need rather more than that for the larger schools, which suggests that $5 billion would not cover it.
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And I read the article that went with the 5.5 billion dollar figure: That's just salaries, no health, no disability, no equipment. Just salaries.
Are sex offenders considered mentally ill? There are lots of local sex offender registries, these can just be added to the mentally ill registry.
So children will be fondled to make sure they're not packing when they go to school?
Never mind, they're already fondled before getting on commercial flights. Having this happen every day as the go into school shouldn't hurt anything...
"Today, the character of ESA (Education Security Administration) Inspector will be played by Johnny Teasdale from Ms. Smith's 5[SUP]th[/SUP] grade class."
Mandatory registration for mental illness will result in mentally ill people fearing to seek treatment. And this will be true even without the gun issue attached. NOBODY wants to be on some damned "list."
And furthermore. It will be akin to the common case of uninsured people refusing to get a suspicous lump or suspicious mole tested for cancer because they currently have no insurance to actually do anything about the cancer should the oncology test come back positive. It's not that they are avoiding reality, it's just that they fear that if they do eventually get insurance, the pre-insurance cancer screening test will make for a "pre-existing condition" and so they will be covered for absolutely jack shit.
As these are random events, this means that most of any money spent on 'armed guards in every school' across your nation would be totally wasted.
Better to put the money into supporting home-schooling, which would make for smaller groups oftargetschildren. Of course, there may be a rise in domestic violence. There is no perfect plan.
And, a register of the mentally-ill? Way to ensure that people don't seek help, idiot!
Better to put the money into supporting home-schooling, which would make for smaller groups of
And, a register of the mentally-ill? Way to ensure that people don't seek help, idiot!
He was likely going for the shock value that the games' names could lend to a 9-second sound byte. I doubt he's ever seen let alone played those games.
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I'm cool with police officers in schools, and as I've pointed out on another thread, it's already done so often that I had just assumed it was standard operating procedures in most places. I mean, there were cops where I went to school. There are cops where my husband teaches. There are cops in other area schools.
Police stations can simply include schools in areas that need patrol. They can assign a cop to that area. Or schools can accept police volunteers. Or schools can have an agreement where they pay for cops to come in when they'd normally be off-duty.
That much of what he said was, IMO, reasonable. But I don't see why it can't be combined with other measures. It is not, in and of itself, a complete and perfect way of preventing something like this ever happening again.
And that bit about schools being attacked *because* they are gun-free zones just doesn't quite add up. There are far more shootings at, say, apartment complexes (which are not "gun-free") than at schools. There have been a few attacks on schools, but not out of proportion to shootings elsewhere... in fact, when you consider there are universities here in Texas that have so many students that they have their own zipcodes, and there are generally ZERO shootings there, fatal or not, it would seem that criminals distinctly are not targeting them.
Still, where the NRA guy really goes off the deep end is blaming violence on the media and lamenting that we don't have a registry of everyone who is mentally ill and suggesting that the best way to curb gun violence is to have more guns. All of that is just... I don't know. But I'm rolling my eyes.
Police stations can simply include schools in areas that need patrol. They can assign a cop to that area. Or schools can accept police volunteers. Or schools can have an agreement where they pay for cops to come in when they'd normally be off-duty.
That much of what he said was, IMO, reasonable. But I don't see why it can't be combined with other measures. It is not, in and of itself, a complete and perfect way of preventing something like this ever happening again.
And that bit about schools being attacked *because* they are gun-free zones just doesn't quite add up. There are far more shootings at, say, apartment complexes (which are not "gun-free") than at schools. There have been a few attacks on schools, but not out of proportion to shootings elsewhere... in fact, when you consider there are universities here in Texas that have so many students that they have their own zipcodes, and there are generally ZERO shootings there, fatal or not, it would seem that criminals distinctly are not targeting them.
Still, where the NRA guy really goes off the deep end is blaming violence on the media and lamenting that we don't have a registry of everyone who is mentally ill and suggesting that the best way to curb gun violence is to have more guns. All of that is just... I don't know. But I'm rolling my eyes.
The worst part of LaPierre's rant is the cold cynicism of it. The NRA is the chief lobbying outfit for gun manufacturers. If they could persuade legislators to pony up for armed guards in every school, guess who gets to arm the guards? Big money involved here.
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