We, at The International Independent Literary Agents Association, have no hidden agenda. We do not work for, or on behalf of any group or organization. The IILAA is simply a group of scam artists, who have formed a partnership in an effort to appear legit and trick you, the writer, into trusting us. We choose to spend our time and effort improving our targetting capabilities and hustling talents so that we can better scam our clients, rather than involve ourselves in the legitimate representation of writers, something that has become prevalent in the industry and is making our job so much more difficult. That is not our mission! Never has been! After all, what do we know about publishing? So come one, come all, enter and see for yourselves what we can do for you. Leave your brain at the door, you won't need it. But don't forget to bring your wallet.
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On the plus side, it's pretty handy to have a bunch of these scammers all together in one spot.
Oops, was that my mysterious hidden agenda showing?
Oops, was that my mysterious hidden agenda showing?
fsr44 said:
yep.
In their muddled thinking perhaps they thought there might be safety in numbers, a sort of union for ne'er-do-wells. But in reality they've just made themselves so much easier to find.
Anyone asking about scam agents might now be pointed towards that site and instructed to steer clear of the lot of them, rather than having to have each scamster defined individually.
Talk about shooting yourself in the foot. Long may it continue.
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Looks guys, somebody really should have told me about this evil AW agenda, are you cutting me out of the loot--or is it world domination, in which case dibbs on Australia.
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What a larf.
I'm going to print their site out and take it to every workshop I do for as long as it's up. The paranoid ravings should prove most amusing to attendees!
Ms. Bauer forgot to take her meds again. The style on this is near identical to what's on her own website.
And I found THIS blogger who backtracked 8 out of 10 of those "agencies" to the 20 Worst list, the last 2 on P&E's "not recommended" list--along with commentary.
http://p-n-elrod.livejournal.com/16112.html
They're compared to being real vampires, and people like us are the much-needed "Buffys."
Sharpening my cyber-stake now.
I'm going to print their site out and take it to every workshop I do for as long as it's up. The paranoid ravings should prove most amusing to attendees!
Ms. Bauer forgot to take her meds again. The style on this is near identical to what's on her own website.
And I found THIS blogger who backtracked 8 out of 10 of those "agencies" to the 20 Worst list, the last 2 on P&E's "not recommended" list--along with commentary.
http://p-n-elrod.livejournal.com/16112.html
They're compared to being real vampires, and people like us are the much-needed "Buffys."
Sharpening my cyber-stake now.
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Man, the design of that site just does my eyes in.
I think they call that a standard commission in the biz.
I think they call that a standard commission in the biz.
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Indeed, and I think payment after a contract has been signed (this may be a novel concept for some "agents") puts the cart and horse in the correct juxtaposition...
I know I'd happily give a good agent $150,000* of my writing money.
*For the mathematically-challenged, that's 15% of a million dollar advance.
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It's sort of ironic that eight of the nine "ten top" literary agencies have another number in common:
Zero.
As in the number of verifiable sales to commercial publishers made in the last three years.
And the "winner" was disciplined by the AAR for violating the ethics rules, and is no longer a member.
Zero.
As in the number of verifiable sales to commercial publishers made in the last three years.
And the "winner" was disciplined by the AAR for violating the ethics rules, and is no longer a member.
FergieC said:
All jokes aside, it was actually a rather intelligent choice for their name. It brings to mind the image that there is some big monolithic organization or institution that they are breaking away from. And really, don't many writers love to think of themselves as mavericks?
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How to spot sites that prey on the insecurities of writers
* They charge no fees and are run by volunteers.
* They encourage open debate and place a premium on logic and evidence.
* They are immensely popular with writers (published and unpublished) as well as editors, agents, proofreaders, cover artists, comic book creators, bloggers and differently abled kittens.
* They have an openly stated goal of helping writers get published by sharing accurate information and discussing points of confusion or disagreement.
* They support writers except when unconditional support would do more harm than good to that person's goals as a writer.
* They take their "mission" seriously and everything else with sense of fun.
Pass me the key to the villains' lair, this is a conspiracy I can get behind. Methinks there is some confusion here between the roles of a predator and those of a shepherd.
* They charge no fees and are run by volunteers.
* They encourage open debate and place a premium on logic and evidence.
* They are immensely popular with writers (published and unpublished) as well as editors, agents, proofreaders, cover artists, comic book creators, bloggers and differently abled kittens.
* They have an openly stated goal of helping writers get published by sharing accurate information and discussing points of confusion or disagreement.
* They support writers except when unconditional support would do more harm than good to that person's goals as a writer.
* They take their "mission" seriously and everything else with sense of fun.
Pass me the key to the villains' lair, this is a conspiracy I can get behind. Methinks there is some confusion here between the roles of a predator and those of a shepherd.
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Top Ten Literary Agents
Barbara Bauer Literary Agency, Inc.
Oh, my head.
Is this some sort of weird Halloween gag?
I'm gagging.
So, should the 20 Worst list add the "top ten" twice?
Or just the umbrella organization once?
Barbara Bauer Literary Agency, Inc.
Oh, my head.
Is this some sort of weird Halloween gag?
I'm gagging.
So, should the 20 Worst list add the "top ten" twice?
Or just the umbrella organization once?
A quick search of Google at 9:35 AM PST shows only two links for the International Indepedent Literary Agents Association -- both are to the Desert Rose Agency. Yahoo also has two -- one to Desert Rose, the other to the IILAA site itself (which websense blocks at work under the category of "sex").
I checked the acronym IILAA to see if that yielded anything else and on Yahoo, the IILAA site is #1 and Desert Rose #2. Interestingly, "iilaa" is an actual word in Arabic; I found the following discussion from an article in Arab News regarding men and the Koran:
Without intending offense to anyone's religious beliefs, "suspended relationship" is an excellent description of what writers who find themselves sucked in by scammers suffer, along with a few other nasties.
I checked the acronym IILAA to see if that yielded anything else and on Yahoo, the IILAA site is #1 and Desert Rose #2. Interestingly, "iilaa" is an actual word in Arabic; I found the following discussion from an article in Arab News regarding men and the Koran:
Without intending offense to anyone's religious beliefs, "suspended relationship" is an excellent description of what writers who find themselves sucked in by scammers suffer, along with a few other nasties.
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That is too perfect. The agent you have when you don't have a functional agent selling your book, but you also aren't free to go and get one? An agent so good that having them swear not to do anything is the best option? LOL
IILAA', the agent you have when you don't have an agent!
...again, not making light of the real iilaa' which is no doubt a useful religious convention.
IILAA', the agent you have when you don't have an agent!
...again, not making light of the real iilaa' which is no doubt a useful religious convention.
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LeslieB said:
I wonder if they chose it because one of the two groups that merged to form the AAR was called the Independent Literary Agents Association.
More confusion.
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Caro said:
The "Sex" reference on the web block is also apt. It's the screwing you paid for but didn't get as the literary badger game played out.
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But this is the International Independent Literary Agents Association.
I'm sure no name confusion was intended.
I'm sure no name confusion was intended.
JulieB said:But this is the International Independent Literary Agents Association.
I'm sure no name confusion was intended.
Oh, we would never accuse them of trying to confuse anyone. Why, such action might lump us in with those "hate sites" they talk about.
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