Anyone familiar with Hwy 93 in MT

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Between Kallispell and Missoula?

What's the road like? I'm surmising from photos online that it's undivided two-lane highway?

Anything remarkable around the east side of Flathead Lake?

Going through Bison Nat'l Forest?

Wildlife?

If you have any insights into what it would have been like in the early 1970s . . . I will love you forever :D
 

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The stretch of 93 from the Idaho border all the way to Glacier park is infamous for head-on collisions, animal/motor vehicle collisions, poor visibility, and drunk driving, among other issues.

They've been working on some of the design problems that make that stretch of road so dangerous.

But for all of that, it's very beautiful to set out towards the Mission Mountains. And you can still go visit the St. Ignatius Mission, with art thought at the time to be actually miraculous, as it was done by an untrained cook, Brother Joseph Carignano.

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The other thing to remember about Montana is that the daytime speed limit was "no greater than is reasonable and proper under the conditions existing" until 1974, when the national double-nickels standard was established in response to oil conservation concerns. The locals who knew the roads would pretty regularly bomb around at 80+ mph in cars and trucks with big 8-cylinder engines. And even after the 55 mph standard was established, the ticket you got was a $5 "failure to conserve" ticket, unless you got the highway patrol guy mad enough to write you a ticket for reckless driving.
 
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This is really going to help. I've got one semi (tanker) wrecked (single vehicle) and turned into an inferno and two others who stopped to help. Right now it's about an hour out of Missoula, but I'm thinking I may want to move it back, closer to Kallispell.
 

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Hi Liralen,

Hwy 93 from Missoula to Kalispell can be a beautiful ride, depending on the day. They did a lot of road work on it recently, so that the part from MIssoula to Polson has areas where the road goes from one to two lanes then back to one again to alleviate the congestion. There was a lot of traffic buildup in the summer with trailors/ campers and with trucks all year long. The Native American tribes (Salish Kootenai and others) didn't want the entire road turned into a 4 lane Hwy, so this was the compromise that was agreed upon. On large stretches of the road, there are new, tall fences that prevent animals from entering the highway. There are underpasses the animals can take so they can move from one side to the other safely.

In Arlee, there is a large Pow-Wow every July 4th.
As you continue up 93, you reach the intersection that will take you to the National Bison Range (Montanans just call it the Bison Rang) and then you head up a hill. When you crest the hill, there is a majestic view of the MIssion Mountains.


Saint Ignatius is the next town, and there is a large Hutterite community there. It is not uncommon to see horse pulled carts/ wagons aroudn this area. The valley is beautiful, a lot of farms and open still. There is a bird refuge, the Ninepipe. You can see a lot of migratory birds there, depending on the season.

Once you pass through Ronan, you head up a hill that will lead down into Polson at the base of Flathead Lake. The best view of Flathead is from the top of that hill, before you reach the viewing area.

Oh, and the speed limit on 93 is 65 mph due to the heavy road congestion (for Montana)

If you were to go from Missoula to Kalispell, you would take the west side.
If you were to go from Missoula to Glacier, the East side.

The East side is a windy road, speed limit 50 mph, and there is a cop who loves to ticket. The road is lined with cherry orchards and you can stop at numerous stands to buy cherries in the summer. Migrants (mainly Mexican and of Mexican descent) from Eastern Washington come each year to pick the crops. There are also roads leading down to private homes, many year round residences, though also many vacation homes. There are two popular public accesses, one is Yellow Bay and I can't remember the name of the second one.

Bigfork, a great artist community and cute little town, is on the East side. It has a nice little cove and is very picturesque. When you come toward the top of the East side and turnoff toward Glacier, there is a lot of farmland.

The mountains by Flathead are the Swans. The Missions end before Flathead Lake. (I'd recommend getting a good map of Montana to determine where one mountain range ends and the other begins.- it can be confusing!)

If you have any more questions, please ask and I'll see what I can do. I've driven that road many times, as I am from Missoula.
 

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Go to google maps and do a streetview of it. You can scroll down the highway, it's almost like driving.

I've done that for a few spots in my latest novel and I think it adds a lot to be able to virtually travel those roads.
 

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Thanks!

Ramona, my guy is driving down from Kallispell to Missoula in a semi pulling a cattle trailer -- it's set in the early 1970s, so I'm wondering if any of the road would have been four lane then or if that's something newer? Would he be driving on the east side of the lake or the west, since he's heading for Portland?

Another bit I'm trying to work out is the mile markers, since I need to know about what mile marker would be about an hour or maybe a little more out of Missoula. There's a wreck there, single vehicle, tanker truck burning.


DJ, I've been trying that, but have had some trouble getting an actual look at the areas :( I love that capability in GoogleMaps though!
 

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Hi Liralen,

In the 70's, none of that work was done and I think it tended to be a slow drive. It was a two lane road the entire way from Kalispell to Missoula (although there might have been 2 places where there were 2 lanes on the southbound route, one near the Bison range and another further on toward Missoula as the road is cresting a hill, but I don't know when they put in those lanes). I don't know mile markers, sorry about that. Also, I'm not as familiar with the West side HWY, as when I go home, I tend to go to Glacier rather than Kalispell. But, from what I remember, it is windy, slow going, and hugs the lake for a good portion of the area from Kalispell to Polson.

I hope this helps!

Ramona
 

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We used to drive from Missoula to Flathead Lake back in the 70s for cherry picking. Seems to me the road was two-lane for the most part, but what impressed me greatly was the drunk drivers. Any time of the day or night, drunks weaving all over the road, drunks in ditches, drunks driving 20 MPH--they haunt me still.
 

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WHOOT! You guys are great! Any little bits like this are gold :)

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Montana native here. I recall during the fall in the '70s drunk bears, too.

U.S. Route 93 was two lanes and straight as an arrow through the Flathead rez between St. Ignatius and Ronan. In the apple orchards along Nine Pipes Reservoir and wildlife refuge, the grizzlies fed on fermented ground apples and staggered about for Super 8 movie cameras.

They were drunk as the drivers, but not so dangerous unless you wanted to pick fall apples.
 

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I had a feeling I was on the right road, so to speak, when I chose this route for my MC ;)

This has been a very weird story to work on. It has led me. There is so much in it that I shouldn't have any way of knowing, and yet my betas who have been acquainted with parts have asked me how I knew this or that, or how I could catch what the life was like . . . and a few were a little weirded out, lol.

Especially the guys.

Honestly, I've been a little weirded out a few times myself.

You guys are gold :)
 

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Hi Liralen,

I spoke with my dad about your question, and he said that the truckers always use the East side highway (not what I was thinking because it is more windy), because it is about 7-10 miles shorter and they save money on gas. Most of the truck accidents occur (and there have been quite a few) between Bigfork and Polson, a very windy stretch with cherry orchards all around. Hope this helps!

Ramona
 

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Please give your dad a big hug from me, Ramona! That's the critical piece of the puzzle I needed :)

Highway 93 is definitely sounding like a road The Black Dog would haunt ;)