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Old 02-24-2012, 03:50 AM   #1
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Alaskan Man Files To Have Obama Removed From Ballot

Because he's black.
No, really, that's the reasoning.

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for an Individual to be a Candidate for the Office of President of the United States, the Candidate must meet the qualifications set forth in the United States Constitution and one of those qualifications is that the Candidate shall be a "natural born Citizen" of the United States. As Barack Hussein Obama II is of the "Mulatto" race, his status of citizenship is founded upon the Fourteenth Amendment to the United States Constitution. Before the [purported] ratification of the Fourteenth Amendment, the race of "Negro" or "Mulatto" had no standing to be citizens of the United States under the United States Constitution.
Read his ten page complaint here

Man, I bet he really thought he was on to something with this one. Note this isn't the first time Mr. Gordon Warren Epperly of Juneau, Alaska has done something like this. In 2010 he sent this to the Alaska Department of Election. Another snippet:

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It appears that Lisa Murkowski has received the majority of votes cast, but there is a problem — Lisa Murkowski is not qualified for the Office of U.S. Senator as she is not a citizen of the United States under Article I of the Constitution for the United States.

Enclosed is a “Proclamation” declaring the political privileges of candidates to hold public offices of the United States. The “Proclamation” shows that U.S. Congress has never made provisions in the U.S. Constitution for women or non-white citizens to hold public offices.
Apparently only white males are legally able to hold office in the US. . This is kind of interesting to me because he's gone to such lengths that he's obviously positive about this. There's no doubt in his mind that 1. Non-whites aren't actually citizens (?????) and 2. Women and non-whites who hold office are "usurpers."

What a scary world he must live in.
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Old 02-24-2012, 04:02 AM   #2
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Wow, it must be so strange to live in a world where light comes from fire-less bulbs of glass and horseless carriages fly along highways at speeds faster than even the fastest locomotive, because he seems to have stepped out of the 18th fucking century.

Course, reading his shit, it just looks like a slightly different spin on the birthers.
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In this political environment, expect every local crackpot to gain national recognition. Some of them are even running for President.
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I confess, I am utterly at a loss to understand how someone that stupid can also be that crazy. Don't you need to have a working mind before you can develop mental dysfunction?

FFS.

This is a person who I would very dearly love to have kidnapped, flown to a real place, like LA or NY or Miami, and just left there, on a street corner. With hidden cameras around.
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I guess both of his complaints come from the premise that somehow the 14th Amendment isn't a real Amendment, that it wasn't ratified properly. (And from Mr. Epperly being a racist, and a crazy person.)
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Just for shits and giggles, does anyone know if this schmuck oppose all blacks/women in public office or just those whom he disagrees with? I mean, it's Alaska, right? At one time Sarah Palin was Governor. Did he flip out over that?
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The amusing irony is that it wouldn't matter if Obama's name is on the Alaska ballot, or not. He has no possibility of winning this state.

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The amusing irony is that it wouldn't matter if Obama's name is on the Alaska ballot, or not. He has no possibility of winning this state.

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And the not amusing irony is that about a quarter of the people in this country is this effed-up, and virtually every one of this quarter of the population is a Republican.
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I guess both of his complaints come from the premise that somehow the 14th Amendment isn't a real Amendment, that it wasn't ratified properly. (And from Mr. Epperly being a racist, and a crazy person.)
In his first complaint he called it the (purported) ratification. But in Obama's case, he claims the 14th amendment gives non-whites and women "civil but not political rights."
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I love this!
In this country even a lunatic can do this kind of thing without worrying that the government will send him to solitary confinement for the rest of his life.

The guy really did his homework...made some interesting arguments..and his claims should be dismissed. He's way off base, in my non-lawyer opinion.

My son married a woman from Australia and they live in the U.S. She's not a US citizen...they are about to have their first child, who, I assume will be qualified by birth to become President of the USA or maybe Prime Minister of Australia.
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The disturbing thing is that he's only one step more out of reality than a lot of other legal interpretations (like Originalism), and he's only about 60 years out of fashion for finding justifications for disenfranchising people.

He's also, in some sense, less cracked than the people who think the original constitution was divinely inspired and should be read as holy writ.
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What I don't understand is why this crackpot isn't running for the republican nomination. He'd fit right in with the rest of the wackadoos.
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The amusing irony is I saw this thread title and immediately thought our very own blacbird was the Alaskan man filing.

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What I don't understand is why this crackpot isn't running for the republican nomination. He'd fit right in with the rest of the wackadoos.
Have any of the current GOP candidates claimed that Obama is not a US citizen and therefore is not eligible to be the President?
If they have, please cite.
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It's too bad this guy got any media coverage at all. His crazy really doesn't need to be spread to the world.
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That's not what she meant. She meant crackpots in general. No arguing that.
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Well, no, not explicitly. But we do now have a major one who has alluded to him being the equivalent of Hitler, and influenced by Satan. Which would you prefer?

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It's mildly amusing, which is why people are repeating and talking about it, but we all know how far his arguments are actually going to get him.

But...yeah... she of the misspelled name was an actual contender in Alaska. Ended up winning a historic victory, even. This guy was clearly reacting to a genuine concern of his, whether or not his reaction had any merit.

Is he actually worried that Obama could win Alaska? Or was this part of a long game, where he hoped removing Obama from the ballot in Alaska would carry over to other states?

Not that I'm sure that trying to dissect the reasoning of a madman is going to get us anywhere...
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Is he actually worried that Obama could win Alaska? Or was this part of a long game, where he hoped removing Obama from the ballot in Alaska would carry over to other states?

Not that I'm sure that trying to dissect the reasoning of a madman is going to get us anywhere...
Legally speaking, if he gets Obama off the ballot in Alaska then he has precedent for others to make the same claim in other states. More than precedent, really.

But as you say, a madman going nowhere.
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Old 02-24-2012, 07:55 PM   #25
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But as you say, a madman going nowhere.

As long as he stays there ... (Sorry blacbird)
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