What Should I Buy? What Should I Avoid?

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Most frightening novel I've ever read: Ira Levin's Rosemary's Baby.

I used to read horror exclusively. For about a decade, I read everything I could get my hands on. At one point I had read the entire horror section of the small bookstore near where I grew up.

But then something happened.

King left the genre, the splatterpunks upped the ante, teenagers began to rule the cineplex, and the art was slowly sucked out of the form. I've read a few authors in this thread, but have never really found a horror author I can really say has restored the art and the life to the genre.

I've recommended it before, but Justin Evans's A Good and Happy Child is a very good literary horror novel that freaked the piss out of me.
 

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Content Warning: Eww! Ick! Probably an R

anthologies are always good place to start. Because if you like a writer you can go get their books. I've read a lot of Anne Rice, she is very good with historical details but has weak ancient egyptian myth. plus side if you like brooding vamps she is your go to girl. I like Nancy Holden also she has done alot of books including ones in the Buffy and Angel series. She clubs out strong images and neat plots. Some juv. writers are good. Some folks like Laurell K. Hamilton. My all time favorite horror novel was The Stand but not so much light reading.
I love YA. But mostly, I love YA about pathetic teens who drink too much or cut themselves or kill themselves or accidentally kill someone or whatever. I should try some YA horror, because it would be a refreshing change from the doom and gloom of the YA I usually end up reading. ;)

NO! NOT...

MIMES!

*runs screaming*
In one of my fantasy novels, I got so desperate for an unusual opponent that I ended up inventing what I called "evil mime mages." White-faced mages in black robes who attacked without a sound -- in packs. They had sharp teeth, and IIRC their bite could turn you into one of them. :eek:

I'm not sure if the encounter will survive the rewrite now that I've changed parts of the basic plot. That might be for the best. The world may not be ready for evil mime mages...

Most frightening novel I've ever read: Ira Levin's Rosemary's Baby.

I used to read horror exclusively. For about a decade, I read everything I could get my hands on. At one point I had read the entire horror section of the small bookstore near where I grew up.

But then something happened.

King left the genre, the splatterpunks upped the ante, teenagers began to rule the cineplex, and the art was slowly sucked out of the form. I've read a few authors in this thread, but have never really found a horror author I can really say has restored the art and the life to the genre.

I've recommended it before, but Justin Evans's A Good and Happy Child is a very good literary horror novel that freaked the piss out of me.
I think sometimes a field can improve when it's not too popular, because writers get to experiment more. Unfortunately they also get to experiment with living off beans & franks for years. :rolleyes: Still, I know there's controversy about whether horror was helped by the years its writers had to publish in the small press, or whether it was hurt by it.

I survived reading horror in the late 1970s, so even some splatterpunk can't phase me too much. ;) Even before splatterpunk, there were some weird books out there with violence (and sex) that often got shoved into the book, as if an editor said "Put something gross here." For example, I remember one novel (paperback original but by one of the better publishers) about a young priest who was obviously (to those who read the prologue) the Devil's child. I don't remember it being too gross most of the time. But in one scene somewhere in the middle, he looked at himself in the mirror and saw a horrible creature's face. Then an enormous monstrous penis thrust up -- out of the drain of his sink or something (I swear, I'm not making this up), and he started playing with it. Then it was all over, and he didn't remember it. Unfortunately, I wasn't so lucky.
:ROFL:

It really had nothing to do with the story, and I could never figure out why it was there except to be an Obligatory Gross Moment with Sex. (OGMS?) In my mind, it hurt the book rather than helping it. There were other books like this, but this one stands out for its stupidity. :D It's the sort of moment that would make you want to read some splatterpunk to cleanse your palate -- at least in the better stories, I generally got the sense that the ick moments meant something other than a gross-out, and even when they didn't, at least they were honest about the ick factor. And their ick moments didn't make me think "Why the heck is that there?"

If that makes any sense. :)
 

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I survived reading horror in the late 1970s, so even some splatterpunk can't phase me too much. ;) Even before splatterpunk, there were some weird books out there with violence (and sex) that often got shoved into the book, as if an editor said "Put something gross here." For example, I remember one novel (paperback original but by one of the better publishers) about a young priest who was obviously (to those who read the prologue) the Devil's child. I don't remember it being too gross most of the time. But in one scene somewhere in the middle, he looked at himself in the mirror and saw a horrible creature's face. Then an enormous monstrous penis thrust up -- out of the drain of his sink or something (I swear, I'm not making this up), and he started playing with it. Then it was all over, and he didn't remember it. Unfortunately, I wasn't so lucky.
:ROFL:
This begs the question -- what was the title and who was the author? Not that I'm going to rush out to find it just to verify this scene or anything...

At least, not immediately. :tongue
 

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This begs the question -- what was the title and who was the author? Not that I'm going to rush out to find it just to verify this scene or anything...

At least, not immediately. :tongue
Uhm, it had a priest on the cover. I think he was blond. :tongue

Ah! Found it! It was "In the Name of the Father" by John Zodrow. No relation to the Daniel Day Lewis movie. :) Here is a Google cache page with the description.
 

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I think sometimes a field can improve when it's not too popular, because writers get to experiment more.

Sure, but I'm still wondering where the experimentation is going on.

I know there's a little happening in YA, but I want to read adult fiction. Where are horror writers experimenting in adult fiction? It seems to me, when I browse the horror section, it's the same thing again and again and again all the way across the shelves.

Of course some (most?) horror readers want the same thing. They're not interested in deviation; they just want to be scared. And I love to be scared, too, but I would love to read an interesting, unusual, different sort of horror novel. I'd love someone to point me in that direction.
 

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They're not interested in deviation; they just want to be scared.

What's scary about something that isn't deviant?

The scariest thing I ever saw in my life was a chipmunk eating another chipmunk under my deck stairs. I saw it when I went out to see what that squealing noise was. The one on the bottom was still twitching, and the one on top had its face buried in the entrails before it looked up at me and ran off. They're not supposed to do that. WTF was going on in my damn yard? I had trouble sleeping for a week, and I was in my mid twenties.

If I ever write a contemporary horror novel, that scene's going into it. That scared the shit out of me.
 

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What's scary about something that isn't deviant?

The scariest thing I ever saw in my life was a chipmunk eating another chipmunk under my deck stairs. I saw it when I went out to see what that squealing noise was. The one on the bottom was still twitching, and the one on top had its face buried in the entrails before it looked up at me and ran off. They're not supposed to do that. WTF was going on in my damn yard? I had trouble sleeping for a week, and I was in my mid twenties.

If I ever write a contemporary horror novel, that scene's going into it. That scared the shit out of me.

Hell of an opening for a horror novel.

Ever read The Watcher? The scene were he puts those dogs in those boxes...I get a little shaky thinking about it.

I know we're sort of being half-serious, but this is the kind of thing I want in a horror novel. The absurd can be extremely scary. Of course there comes a point where everything has to work on a pyschological level, and this is why splatterpunk/torture porn doesn't work for me; too much is revealed for the mind to fill in the blanks. (I did love the splatterpunks when they were new and before the movies sort of ruined them; the original Splatterpunk anthology was one of my favorite books as a teen.)

I like the suggestion of violence more than the violence itself. There's a world of suggestion in cannibal chipmunks.
 

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Wow...what an awesome thread! I was just about to post one on the same topic since my goal this weekend is to get to the library. Thanks everyone! :D

But I'd like to callibrate my ick-meter. I'm a huge Stephen King fan and I also like Neil Gaiman, but they can really gross me out. Would they be considered *high* or *moderate* on the old ick index? (Or, God forbid, *mild*)

(Personally, I can't deal with torture of any kind. And sex with blood is not my thing, either - "Sunshine" by Robin McKinley about did me in.)

Thanks!
 

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I enjoy anything by Matheson, didn't he do Legend of Hell House? Anything by Robert Bloch is classic too. I like Lovecraft as well.
 

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I enjoy anything by Matheson, didn't he do Legend of Hell House? Anything by Robert Bloch is classic too. I like Lovecraft as well.
I've just had a whole load of horror books delivered, and I'm so excited, I can hardly breathe. Some of them were recommended on this thread, and some of them came up when researching books on this thread, so ta!

'Hell House' and Volume 2 of 'Tales from the Crypt' are on their way, but I've already got 'Duma Key', Michael Laimo's 'Deep in the Darkness' and anthologies Joel Lane's 'The Lost District', 'The Ghost Now Standing on Platform One' and 'History is Dead' (a zombie anthology') 'Gaslit Nightmares' and '100 Ghastly Little Ghost Stories'. I'm now going to order Will's recommendation 'A Good and Happy Child' - once he PMs me with more of description! :D
 

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But I'd like to callibrate my ick-meter. I'm a huge Stephen King fan and I also like Neil Gaiman, but they can really gross me out. Would they be considered *high* or *moderate* on the old ick index? (Or, God forbid, *mild*)

(Personally, I can't deal with torture of any kind. And sex with blood is not my thing, either - "Sunshine" by Robin McKinley about did me in.)

Thanks!

Gaiman icks me out too. But I loved Sunshine. HOWEVER--if you didn't like that, DON'T read McKinley's Deerskin. One of the few books I've read that was difficult to finish, and which I honestly couldn't give to friends without warning them. I think I threw out the paperback in the end. I went back and reread the Grimm fairy tale it's very very very losely based on ("Allerleirauh") just to wash out my brain afterward.
 

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I enjoy anything by Matheson, didn't he do Legend of Hell House? Anything by Robert Bloch is classic too. I like Lovecraft as well.
Robert Bloch had the heart of a little child. He kept it in a jar on his desk. :)

I've just had a whole load of horror books delivered, and I'm so excited, I can hardly breathe. Some of them were recommended on this thread, and some of them came up when researching books on this thread, so ta!
You look like you're in for a lot of fun. :D
 

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Robert Bloch had the heart of a little child. He kept it in a jar on his desk. :)


You look like you're in for a lot of fun. :D
Yep, ordered 'Good & Happy Child' anyway, and Hell House arrived today! Wheeeeee!
 

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I finished reading The Exorcist today!
:hooray:
Oh, and:
:e2thud:

That's quite the book. :)

By the way, reading The Exorcist while in a dentist's chair with a tube stuck in your mouth and weird sounds all around you is a bizarre experience. :D

And now, I'm editing a science article about exocysts.
:ROFL:
 
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I finished reading The Exorcist today!
I think I read that in my mid-teens. My parents had left it lying around. A voracious reader, I sucked it down in a couple of days before they knew I'd read it.

:Jaw:

If you ever wonder why I am the way I am, that could be it. :Wha:
 

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I think I read that in my mid-teens.
another kid had me reading it on the school bus at age 13 (1972) I think he did it for the cheap thrill of seeing a preacher's son's jaw drop reading certain passages with dog eared pages. later when I was in my 20s and had to live at home (again) briefly, the movie was on network television one night. I came home around ten pm and put it on in the living room, my dad popped out of bed like an exploding kernal of pop corn and said "we do not watch satanic movies in this house". Dear old dad: we found out six years ago that the good Reverand had a life long addiction to prostitutes. And they wonder why I am such a heathen! but I digress...
 

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another kid had me reading it on the school bus at age 13 (1972) I think he did it for the cheap thrill of seeing a preacher's son's jaw drop reading certain passages with dog eared pages. later when I was in my 20s and had to live at home (again) briefly, the movie was on network television one night. I came home around ten pm and put it on in the living room, my dad popped out of bed like an exploding kernal of pop corn and said "we do not watch satanic movies in this house". Dear old dad: we found out six years ago that the good Reverand had a life long addiction to prostitutes. And they wonder why I am such a heathen! but I digress...
Wow, and I thought my brother was annoying. ;)

People who react that way to The Exorcist simply don't get it. There's more in The Exorcist (especially the book) about faith than in many many other stories. Yes, the Devil is in there, and so is doubt, but sheesh. Think of it as a metaphor about adolescent rebellion if you must. :D

I found a wonderful blog entry or article (can't remember which) about a fan of the book (and movie) who found incredible inspiration in Father Merrin and writes about him as a person of faith, and how touched she was by the scene in Exorcist: The Beginning when Merrin found his faith again and prayed -- while the idiot teens around her were snickering because they didn't think the movie was scary. And yet some people are so stubborn that they would discount her experience because they think anything with the Devil in it must be avoided, even banned. Never mind that you can find lots of fights with the Devil in Christian inspirational fiction these days. ;)
 

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Yep, ordered 'Good & Happy Child' anyway, and Hell House arrived today! Wheeeeee!
'A Good and Happy Child' - terrifying. Never been so glad I don't have one of those showers with sliding doors...'Deep In the Darkness' failed to convince me one iota - the writer could not make the premise fly, I thought.

Am stringing out the anthologies, but Joel Lane's 'The Lost District' is perhaps too modern for me. All the same, a couple of strong stories there.
 

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Sarah Langan is pretty good I think. I enjoyed both books by her that I read.

Bentley Little...hmmmm. I read two of his books and both were pretty crazy as far as subject matter goes. Nothing was scary at all though. He's like a Richard Laymon 2.0. He's just as deviant and bizarre but a little better writer.

Shirley Jackson's Haunting of Hill House is probably the best ghost story I have ever read.

Koontz is alright. I have read two of his books and there were some good passages but overall he doesn't inspire me.

Jonathan Maberry is pretty good. He has three books of which I have read the first two. Ghost Road Blues and Dead Man's Song I have read, Bad Moon Rising I haven't read yet but will soon.
 
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