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  1. #1
    DaveKuzminski
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    This yells out what it is

    I received this from a writer who was initially contacted by Angela. I've copied the subsequent email he received and changed only one thing. I put "author's name" in place of his real name. I now present you with the Letter from Spain:

    Dear author's name:

    Thank you very much for the story. I simply loved it when I read it, and
    now I'm honored to get it publish.. I hope this will reinforce our
    SÓnish readers to write their own stories and tales, and send them.

    Thank very much as well for your kind and supporting words. What
    happened last Thursdat in Madrid was, not only sad... It was like a
    nightmare come true. The feeling of impotence and pain was overwhelming.
    It has provoqued a change in the goverment, but I am not sure this is
    going to solve all our problems. The damage is done, and now we must
    face the consecuences.
    In this state of things, it is very hard to focus in a moutaineerig
    magazine (it seems so shallow!). But life goes on, and people has also
    the right to read about dreams and beautiful places and activities.

    And so, let's go ow with your story. I'd like to write, in a couple of
    sentences, who are you (Where do you live and your relationship with the
    mountaineering world). Let me know as well where shall I send you an
    issue, once printed. I must beg for yor patience, as your story will
    appear in May, so it'll take it some time.

    The same can be said as far as payment is concerned. The transference
    shall be fulfilled on the First of June. Any way, to gain some time,
    here you are our company's data, and how to write the invoice:

    The invoice shall be signed and mailed to the attention of:

    Marcelo Otero
    Campo Base
    C/ Monte Esquinza, 28, 3║izda.
    28010-Madrid
    SPAIN

    The invoice shall include:
    Number of invoice (01, for you) and date (May 2004)
    Your complete data (Name, adress, ID or passport number, phone n║.)
    Campo base data (Beware, the adress where the company is registered is
    not the same of that of our headquarters!)

    Ediciones Campo Base S.L.
    >c/ Abtao, 28, 4║ 19
    >28007-Madrid
    >CIF: B-83896183

    Concept: Colaboration for the Third number of 'Campo Base' magazine.
    (Colaboraciˇn para el tercer n˙mero de la revista Campo Base)

    Ammount: 125EUR

    Then I'll need your COMPLETE bank account data. (Including the name of
    the bank, adrees of the bank office, All the digits of the bank account,
    IBAN code and SWIFT code).

    Let me know if you have any doubt about it of in case you need any
    futher information. Thanks again, and best regards,

    Angela.

  2. #2
    James D Macdonald
    Guest

    Re: This yells out what it is

    Dave, that sounds a lot like a request to make a wire transfer to the author's account.

    What's the magazine in question?

  3. #3
    DaveKuzminski
    Guest

    Re: This yells out what it is

    James Macdonald, I believe it's Campo Base. What bothers me is the request for information that's not needed. All they need to do is either send a check or a money order and let the banks handle the niceties. I doubt if we're talking any major payments here as it's for a short article so those would be safe enough, though I would think that Paypal could also handle this.

    What bothers me further is that they found his work on the Internet at his web page. I don't believe I copied that information from the writer's email to me, but that set off an alarm. The greater majority of publishers don't cruise web pages for writing to feature in their publications especially since first world rights are probably already burned. At least, most publications I know of feel that way about work that's appeared on the web.

    If I'm wrong, I'm wrong, but no overseas publication ever asked me for that much information when they wanted to reprint some of my work in order to effect payment.

  4. #4
    richardmartin555
    Guest

    Re: This yells out what it is

    Some guy in Spain wants his complete bank acct data?
    Notice he saved that little nugget of a request till the final para.

  5. #5
    JustinoIV
    Guest

    what in the world?

    With just a little more info like a birthdate or social security number, they could access your bank account!

    Red Flag doesn't describe this situation. A volcanic red mountain had erupted! Run like hell!

  6. #6
    sfsassenach
    Guest

    It may be a benign request, IMO

    I've provided that info to British and American publishers in order to get a wire transfer into my American account.

    I don't want them to postal mail a check to my bank--the chances of misplacing it are too great. However, I'd only do it with a publisher I trust.

  7. #7
    RealityChuck
    Guest

    Re: It may be a benign request, IMO

    I have noticed that, in Europe, that sort of bank transfer is much more routine than it is in the US (especially with different currencies). It's not necessarily sinister that he's asking for the information.

  8. #8
    DaveKuzminski
    Guest

    Question

    But how many editors anywhere commonly cruise the Internet for stories and articles to reprint?

  9. #9
    richardmartin555
    Guest

    Re: Question

    I googled up zilch on the guy or his mag. Was the
    article/story in English, or Spanish?

  10. #10
    DaveKuzminski
    Guest

    To my knowledge

    The work to be reprinted is in English on a personal web page.

  11. #11
    James D Macdonald
    Guest

    Re: Question

    Campo Base is here, listed under Madrid:

    <a href="http://www.coedis.com/Editores.asp" target="_new">www.coedis.com/Editores.asp</a>

    The editor's email appears to be redaccion@campobase.es

    Alas! their web page at http://www.campobase.es seems to be down.

  12. #12
    JustinoIV
    Guest

    displacing

    "I don't want them to postal mail a check to my bank--the chances of misplacing it are too great. However, I'd only do it with a publisher I trust."

    They can add delivery confirmation to their requests at little extra cost. Or they can fedex or ups the check to you. Or if they are internet savy, they can paypal it to you.

    If you don't know an employer that well, tell them to send money to you in the above mentioned manners. Otherwise, with established companies that you have a relationship with, wire transfers are fine.

  13. #13
    dgkgoldberg
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    Re: displacing

    I've done some work for non-USA based magazines, most of what I do it nonfiction. What sets off alarm bells for me is the request for a passport number or ID number.

    That's really usual. I've had payment via bank transfer which can be made with the name, location, and account number of my bank account.

    I've also had payment in checks and via paystone and pay pal.

  14. #14
    James D Macdonald
    Guest

    Re: displacing

    They're offering $154.64 (at this morning's exchange rate). If you're worried, give them a mailing address and ask them to send a money order. The bank fees will eat up some of the cash, but what the hey, right?

  15. #15
    sfsassenach
    Guest

    Re: displacing

    Justino wrote:
    They can add delivery confirmation to their requests at little extra cost. Or they can fedex or ups the check to you. Or if they are internet savy, they can paypal it to you.
    It still takes too long. I live in Central America, and have the checks sent to a family member who deposits it, or get wire transfers.

    I don't entirely trust Pay Pal, and have ehard too many horror stories. They're fine for small transactions, little purchases from EBay and the like, but I don't want to use them like a bank.

  16. #16
    DaveKuzminski
    Guest

    Way too much info

    dgkgoldberg, the part about passport numbers also caught my attention. Just what exactly would they compare it to to know whether it's legitimate?

    It's not that they asked for information, but that they asked for way too much that pushed the buttons for alarms with me. They can be entirely legitimate, but they're asking for too much, especially in view of the number of identity thefts going on.

  17. #17
    JustinoIV
    Guest

    Fed EX

    "It still takes too long. I live in Central America, and have the checks sent to a family member who deposits it, or get wire transfers."

    I'm sure everyone knows this but both sender and receiver pay fees for wires.

    Therefore, if you live in the US and your publisher is in the US, it really is best to just have the funds mailed to you.

    As for Fed Ex, they do have global delivery services that could probably get documents somewhere a day or two.

    It may be possible to use passport and other id numbers to look up a person's background info.

    Overall, unless it's a publisher that you've been working with for awhile, I think they'd think it is weird for you to ask for a wire transfer. Unless you're formally hired and they have direct deposit. But for a onetime freelance project wiritng sounds weird.

    Paypal is FDIC insured, which means you're covered there up to $100000

  18. #18
    sfsassenach
    Guest

    Re: Fed EX

    As for Fed Ex, they do have global delivery services that could probably get documents somewhere a day or two.
    :rollin :rollin :rollin :blackeye

    Sometimes...but "second day air" can mean "second week" out here in the sticks. You live in the First World Justino, and don't seem to understand that efficiency isn't universal.

  19. #19
    SRHowen
    Guest

    IN Europe

    I have worked in Publishing in Germany, and lived there for several years. They do not do checking there. Period. One of the weirdest things they think about Americans is checking accounts--anyone could write one--Yes?

    They use a bank draft with account numbers etc., so that part would not concern me much though I might set up an account to use for only those sorts of things.

    They would have no reason at all to have passport info though--unless for ID purposes--you use your passport often in Europe. But I don't think so--we never had passprot info on anybody where I worked.

    And there is the fact that legit publishers DO NOT troll the Internet looking for material they are flooded with stuff.

    Shawn

  20. #20
    sfsassenach
    Guest

    Passports

    In Costa Rica, everyone is issued a cedulla [certificate] # at birth, and you have to put it on all legal documents, bank papers, etc.

    If you don't have a cedulla, you use your passport #.

  21. #21
    JustinoIV
    Guest

    the board

    "Sometimes...but "second day air" can mean "second week" out here in the sticks. You live in the First World Justino, and don't seem to understand that efficiency isn't universal. "

    I understand that effeciency isn't universal, it took awhile for me to receive a package that was sent to me in Paraguay.

    However, I do believe the majority of the people on this form live in the US, and in any of the anglophone countries I'd say a check sent through the mail. I don't think it is good for most of the people on this forum to demand that money be wired to them.

    Especially if it's just for a freelance project. Considering that freelance projects are probably going to be what, a few houndred dollars at the most?

  22. #22
    Roxanne McDonald
    Guest

    Re: This yells out what it is

    As the alarms sounded regarding content (requests for scam-worthy information), they should also have sounded regarding mechanics (grammer, spelling, syntax).

    Editor? Woe hoe hoe.

    RM

  23. #23
    Roxanne McDonald
    Guest

    Re: This yells out what it is (edited. lol)

    As the alarms sounded regarding content (requests for scam-worthy information), they should also have sounded regarding mechanics (*grammar, spelling, syntax).

    Editor? Woe hoe hoe.

    RM

  24. #24
    sfsassenach
    Guest

    Not necessarily, since the editor is Spanish...

    and probably not a native speaker of English.

  25. #25
    MysticWolf1
    Guest

    Re: Not necessarily, since the editor is Spanish...

    Yes, I agree. It looks as if some of the spellings are phonetic; I was able to understand the message. :thumbs

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