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This site was recently brought to my attention from someone who was solicited by them. I am quite certain it is a scam and wanted to share what I've learned.
The way it works is, you get an email saying they have read your script and would like to invite you to participate in an "Initial Consultation" for a fee of $260. The site's description is, "Enrollment Fee (Initial Consultation) Pricing: One-Time $260 - ERI's initial enrollment is a one time fee of $260. After that, a unique course is recommended and tailored for each project."
According to a former client, you then pitch your script to a "Hollywood producer" on the phone. If you ask said producer for his name and/or credits he will refuse to tell you. After your conversation of approximately 30-60 minutes he will tell you he is recommending you for their "elite coverage" which will cost you another $500. It seems their entire "unique course" consists of one brief phone conversation with an anonymous, self-described expert.
In my search I found the following red flags regarding thinkhollywood.org and their services:
1. They are soliciting you. They likely obtain your name from a list that originally came from a screenwriting or film site you either registered at or otherwise provided your email address to (ie - to enter a contest or competition). They may also have simply trolled the web for names and email addresses associated with screenwriting websites.
2. There are no names or contact information of any kind for the people who created the site or any of the "coaches" to whom they refer. I also found no information on thinkhollywood or ERI using google.
3. The site was created in July of 2007 and is registered for 1 year (the minimum). Most online scammers create a site and take it down again within a year.
4. It would be virtually impossible for this company to have all the partners they listed (ABC, CBS, Disney, CAA, ICM, NBC, Universal, Sony, Mandalay Entertainment) without having any information about the people involved and/or the company itself.
5. Upon looking up their domain registration information (listed below and highlighted in red) I found that they have chosen to hide all contact information. The phone number they list is a fake (1-800-123-4567) and while they are registered in Los Angeles, their IP address is based in New York. Also, the email address they list, "[email protected]"is not an actual email address.
6. Their "Our Programs" page says, "Because of the time and resources involved for ERI, this service is not made available to the general public." This is clearly a lie as they are soliciting customers and have a paypal link on their page which anyone can use to pay for their services.
7. Nowhere on the site does it tell you what, exactly, the "Enrollment Fee (Initial Consultation)" is and what you get for your $260.00.
8. Included in their Terms of Services are the following:
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Here's the domain registrar information I referred to for thinkhollywood.org:
Domain ID148567315-LROR
Domain Name:THINKHOLLYWOOD.ORG
Created On:12-Jul-2007 17:56:36 UTC
Last Updated On:11-Sep-2007 03:54:23 UTC
Expiration Date:12-Jul-2008 17:56:36 UTC
Sponsoring Registrar:GoDaddy.com, Inc. (R91-LROR)
Status:CLIENT DELETE PROHIBITED
Status:CLIENT RENEW PROHIBITED
Status:CLIENT TRANSFER PROHIBITED
Status:CLIENT UPDATE PROHIBITED
Registrant ID:GODA-034829469
Registrant Name:Entertainment Research Institute
Registrant Street1:Entertainment Research Institute
Registrant Street2:
Registrant Street3:
Registrant City:Los Angeles
Registrant State/Province:California
Registrant Postal Code:90019
Registrant Country:US
Registrant Phone:+1.8001234567
Registrant Phone Ext.:
Registrant FAX:
Registrant FAX Ext.:
Registrant Email:[email protected]
Admin ID:GODA-234829469
Admin Name:Entertainment Research Institute
Admin Street1:Entertainment Research Institute
Admin Street2:
Admin Street3:
Admin City:Los Angeles
Admin State/Province:California
Admin Postal Code:90019
Admin Country:US
Admin Phone:+1.8001234567
Admin Phone Ext.:
Admin FAX:
Admin FAX Ext.:
Admin Email:[email protected]
Tech ID:GODA-134829469
Tech Name:Entertainment Research Institute
Tech Street1:Entertainment Research Institute
Tech Street2:
Tech Street3:
Tech City:Los Angeles
Tech State/Province:California
Tech Postal Code:90019
Tech Country:US
Tech Phone:+1.8001234567
Tech Phone Ext.:
Tech FAX:
Tech FAX Ext.:
Tech Email:[email protected]
Name Server:NS57.DOMAINCONTROL.COM
Name Server:NS58.DOMAINCONTROL.COM
IP Address: 208.109.138.75 (ARIN & RIPE IP search)
IP Location: US(UNITED STATES)-NEW YORK-NEW YORK
Record Type: Domain Name
Server Type: Apache
Web Site Status: Active
DMOZ no listings
Y! Directory:see listings
Web Site Title: Think Hollywood - ENTERTAINMENT RESEARCH INSTITUTE Secure: No
E-commerce: No
Traffic Ranking: Not available
Data as of: 30-Nov-2007
The way it works is, you get an email saying they have read your script and would like to invite you to participate in an "Initial Consultation" for a fee of $260. The site's description is, "Enrollment Fee (Initial Consultation) Pricing: One-Time $260 - ERI's initial enrollment is a one time fee of $260. After that, a unique course is recommended and tailored for each project."
According to a former client, you then pitch your script to a "Hollywood producer" on the phone. If you ask said producer for his name and/or credits he will refuse to tell you. After your conversation of approximately 30-60 minutes he will tell you he is recommending you for their "elite coverage" which will cost you another $500. It seems their entire "unique course" consists of one brief phone conversation with an anonymous, self-described expert.
In my search I found the following red flags regarding thinkhollywood.org and their services:
1. They are soliciting you. They likely obtain your name from a list that originally came from a screenwriting or film site you either registered at or otherwise provided your email address to (ie - to enter a contest or competition). They may also have simply trolled the web for names and email addresses associated with screenwriting websites.
2. There are no names or contact information of any kind for the people who created the site or any of the "coaches" to whom they refer. I also found no information on thinkhollywood or ERI using google.
3. The site was created in July of 2007 and is registered for 1 year (the minimum). Most online scammers create a site and take it down again within a year.
4. It would be virtually impossible for this company to have all the partners they listed (ABC, CBS, Disney, CAA, ICM, NBC, Universal, Sony, Mandalay Entertainment) without having any information about the people involved and/or the company itself.
5. Upon looking up their domain registration information (listed below and highlighted in red) I found that they have chosen to hide all contact information. The phone number they list is a fake (1-800-123-4567) and while they are registered in Los Angeles, their IP address is based in New York. Also, the email address they list, "[email protected]"is not an actual email address.
6. Their "Our Programs" page says, "Because of the time and resources involved for ERI, this service is not made available to the general public." This is clearly a lie as they are soliciting customers and have a paypal link on their page which anyone can use to pay for their services.
7. Nowhere on the site does it tell you what, exactly, the "Enrollment Fee (Initial Consultation)" is and what you get for your $260.00.
8. Included in their Terms of Services are the following:
- 5. I request that you read and evaluate said material with a view to deciding whether you will undertake to acquire it.
- 12. I hereby acknowledge and agree that there are no prior or contemporaneous oral agreements in effect between you and me pertaining to said material, or pertaining to any material (including but not limited to, agreements pertaining to the submission by me of any ideas, formats, plots, characters, or the like). I further agree that no other obligations exist or shall exist or shall be deemed to exist unless and until a formal written agreement has been prepared and entered into by both you and me, and then your and my rights and obligations shall be only such as are expressed in said formal written agreement.,"
also
- 8. You may use without any obligation or payment to me any of said material which is not protected as literary property under the laws of plagiarism, or which a third person would be free to use if the material had not been submitted to him or had not been the subject of any agreement with him, or which is in the public domain. Any of said material, which, in accordance with the preceding sentence, you are entitled to use, without obligation to me is hereinafter referred to as “unprotected material.” If all or any part of said material does not fall in the category of unprotected material it is hereinafter referred to as “protected material.”
Here's the domain registrar information I referred to for thinkhollywood.org:
Domain ID148567315-LROR
Domain Name:THINKHOLLYWOOD.ORG
Created On:12-Jul-2007 17:56:36 UTC
Last Updated On:11-Sep-2007 03:54:23 UTC
Expiration Date:12-Jul-2008 17:56:36 UTC
Sponsoring Registrar:GoDaddy.com, Inc. (R91-LROR)
Status:CLIENT DELETE PROHIBITED
Status:CLIENT RENEW PROHIBITED
Status:CLIENT TRANSFER PROHIBITED
Status:CLIENT UPDATE PROHIBITED
Registrant ID:GODA-034829469
Registrant Name:Entertainment Research Institute
Registrant Street1:Entertainment Research Institute
Registrant Street2:
Registrant Street3:
Registrant City:Los Angeles
Registrant State/Province:California
Registrant Postal Code:90019
Registrant Country:US
Registrant Phone:+1.8001234567
Registrant Phone Ext.:
Registrant FAX:
Registrant FAX Ext.:
Registrant Email:[email protected]
Admin ID:GODA-234829469
Admin Name:Entertainment Research Institute
Admin Street1:Entertainment Research Institute
Admin Street2:
Admin Street3:
Admin City:Los Angeles
Admin State/Province:California
Admin Postal Code:90019
Admin Country:US
Admin Phone:+1.8001234567
Admin Phone Ext.:
Admin FAX:
Admin FAX Ext.:
Admin Email:[email protected]
Tech ID:GODA-134829469
Tech Name:Entertainment Research Institute
Tech Street1:Entertainment Research Institute
Tech Street2:
Tech Street3:
Tech City:Los Angeles
Tech State/Province:California
Tech Postal Code:90019
Tech Country:US
Tech Phone:+1.8001234567
Tech Phone Ext.:
Tech FAX:
Tech FAX Ext.:
Tech Email:[email protected]
Name Server:NS57.DOMAINCONTROL.COM
Name Server:NS58.DOMAINCONTROL.COM
IP Address: 208.109.138.75 (ARIN & RIPE IP search)
IP Location: US(UNITED STATES)-NEW YORK-NEW YORK
Record Type: Domain Name
Server Type: Apache
Web Site Status: Active
DMOZ no listings
Y! Directory:see listings
Web Site Title: Think Hollywood - ENTERTAINMENT RESEARCH INSTITUTE Secure: No
E-commerce: No
Traffic Ranking: Not available
Data as of: 30-Nov-2007