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    Apod, LLC

    http://www.apod.us/

    Sigh.

    Once again I'm contacted by a person who has a POD company...prices are not listed and once again they claim that all traditional publishers steal your money and force you to pay to publish your book.

    Sigh.

    I kindly explained him why this is not true and pointed him to Jenna's article. I then expressed concern that there were no prices on the site and the wording was confusing. I did not give him permission to come to our group to lecture but to participate if he liked.
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    Tirjasdyn:

    Don't feel any need to tell POD companies why you aren't dealing with them. The important thing is to stay focused. They're just one more distraction...
    keep writing and keep submitting.
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    They seem to be utterly ignorant.

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    Quote Originally Posted by byarvin View Post
    Tirjasdyn:

    Don't feel any need to tell POD companies why you aren't dealing with them. The important thing is to stay focused. They're just one more distraction...
    keep writing and keep submitting.
    Actually it is important.

    I'm responisble for the notions of over 200 writers who belong to the group I run. It is why I get this stuff. At least this guy followed my guidelines for posting his publishing scheme.

    He hasn't responded. We'll just have to see.
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    I used to be amused by Utopians. With life experience, I have grown to fear them. The great failing of Utopians is that they can never accept that someone else might not want to
    be a part of their utopian vision. Like ill-mannered tourists, they assume that if you don't agree with them, it must be because they're not explaining it simply enough, or often enough, or loudly enough, or ultimately, because you're stupid. Utopians always think achieving Utopia is simply a matter of education—and then re-education—and then coercion, legislation, litigation medication conditioning threats book-burnings eugenics surgical modifications hunting down the counter-revolutionaries killing the reactionaries genetic engineering—and ultimately all Utopians, no matter how nobly they begin, always end up at the same conclusion: that the only thing that keeps Man from building a secular heaven here on Earth is the nature of Man, therefore we must build a New and Better Man.


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    Quote Originally Posted by Tirjasdyn View Post
    Actually it is important.

    I'm responisble for the notions of over 200 writers who belong to the group I run. It is why I get this stuff. At least this guy followed my guidelines for posting his publishing scheme.

    He hasn't responded. We'll just have to see.
    What does that mean?
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    Specifically, I run the Denver Writer's Meetup. I feel responsible when people get this stuff and believe it.

    So I have to spend time to follow leads, respond to requests and bring it to the group for discussion. I don't want them to believe that they can't ever get published, or that they have to pay to be published.

    There are alot of professional writers in that group...you'd think they know better but that doesn't always happen. Do you know how many questions I get that start with "how much does it cost to publish a novel?" These aren't kids asking, these are grown adults with publishing credits in non-fiction, jobs in copy-editing, manual writing etc. But they dont' know the fiction market.

    I had to put a notice up on the board requiring that would be publishers, agents etc email me before posting, then close down the message boards because of the random crap that was put there by scammers.
    Last edited by Tirjasdyn; 05-02-2007 at 10:07 PM. Reason: Trying to explain
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    I used to be amused by Utopians. With life experience, I have grown to fear them. The great failing of Utopians is that they can never accept that someone else might not want to
    be a part of their utopian vision. Like ill-mannered tourists, they assume that if you don't agree with them, it must be because they're not explaining it simply enough, or often enough, or loudly enough, or ultimately, because you're stupid. Utopians always think achieving Utopia is simply a matter of education—and then re-education—and then coercion, legislation, litigation medication conditioning threats book-burnings eugenics surgical modifications hunting down the counter-revolutionaries killing the reactionaries genetic engineering—and ultimately all Utopians, no matter how nobly they begin, always end up at the same conclusion: that the only thing that keeps Man from building a secular heaven here on Earth is the nature of Man, therefore we must build a New and Better Man.


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    Personally, I'd just tell them to be very wary of any publisher or agent that approaches them directly or approaches the writer's group as a whole.

    Good publishers and agents tend to be fending potential customers off with a stick. They don't need to go way out of their way looking for potential customers.

    I'm not going to say there aren't exceptions, but any approach should be taken with a caution flag waving.

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    We get some legitimate, if low paying approaches. I've gotten some hate mail too...I posted one here a few months back.

    I can't help feeling responsible...it's just me.
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    I used to be amused by Utopians. With life experience, I have grown to fear them. The great failing of Utopians is that they can never accept that someone else might not want to
    be a part of their utopian vision. Like ill-mannered tourists, they assume that if you don't agree with them, it must be because they're not explaining it simply enough, or often enough, or loudly enough, or ultimately, because you're stupid. Utopians always think achieving Utopia is simply a matter of education—and then re-education—and then coercion, legislation, litigation medication conditioning threats book-burnings eugenics surgical modifications hunting down the counter-revolutionaries killing the reactionaries genetic engineering—and ultimately all Utopians, no matter how nobly they begin, always end up at the same conclusion: that the only thing that keeps Man from building a secular heaven here on Earth is the nature of Man, therefore we must build a New and Better Man.


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    Insurance is a bet that only the insurance company can win.

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