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    Talking Destiny Image Publishers

    Does anyone know anyting about Destiny Image Publishers?

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    Their website seems to be down, but the google cached version says that they only publish a few dozen books each year out of the thousands of submissions they receive. However, it also shows that they charge a $25 reading fee with each submission. And instead of rejections, they give your name to an "outside author coach" who will contact you with "other publishing options." Those last bits send up big red flags for me.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Unimportant View Post
    Their website seems to be down, but the google cached version says that they only publish a few dozen books each year out of the thousands of submissions they receive. However, it also shows that they charge a $25 reading fee with each submission. And instead of rejections, they give your name to an "outside author coach" who will contact you with "other publishing options." Those last bits send up big red flags for me.
    Please explain the red flags.

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    A $25 reading fee over 'thousands' of submissions means they're making 50K from reading fees alone. Those 'outside author coach' referrals probably also involve a kick-back from the coaches. So they have a nice little business in reading and referring. Maybe they occasionally publish something, too. The question is, do you want to buy a $25 lottery ticket to find out?

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    Quote Originally Posted by huw View Post
    A $25 reading fee over 'thousands' of submissions means they're making 50K from reading fees alone. Those 'outside author coach' referrals probably also involve a kick-back from the coaches. So they have a nice little business in reading and referring. Maybe they occasionally publish something, too. The question is, do you want to buy a $25 lottery ticket to find out?

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    In spite of what they say, I find it hard to believe they get thousands of book submissions a year. I know someone who uses them and he has two books published through them. I don't know why, but I don't think either book has sold many copies, but the fact that both books have apparently faired so poorly my indicate that the publisher isn't as selective as they claim. ???????????????????

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    The publisher is not selective in the distribution venues they use or acquire. It doesn't sound like they can sell books period, except for online. Are they visiable in bookstores or libraries? A reading fee PLUS a referral kickback makes them a nice little chunck of change. Add a reverse vantiy model on to that and they are actually doing better than Publish America, in a one-on-one situation with the individual author.

    Wouldn't even waste my time with this one.

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    Propserity, if your friend's books aren't selling very well, that's pretty much the definitive answer. There's no point in sending one's manuscripts to a publisher who can't sell its own books.

    DI appears to sell at least some of their books directly to churches, ministries, etc, since they're a heavily Christian/religious publisher. I also ran across another site where anyone looking for people to spam their religious stuff to can buy DI's mailing list, which consists of the names and addresses of every person, store, and church who has ever purchased a book from DI -- perhaps this is standard practice, but it seems a little distasteful to me.

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    Question Is my book an original?

    I am filling out a manuscript submission questionaire. I am having difficulty with a question about my manuscripts originality. How do I find out if there are other books like mine? Please help!
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    Go to the bookstore and search the shelves for similar books?

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    Quote Originally Posted by bikerchick View Post
    I am filling out a manuscript submission questionaire...
    What is that, exactly? Are they charging you anything to submit your work?

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    Is your book fiction or non-fiction?

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    Amazon. Marvellous invention.

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    If you wrote it, it's your original work.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Stijn Hommes View Post
    Is your book fiction or non-fiction?
    Fiction.
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    Quote Originally Posted by scarletpeaches View Post
    Amazon. Marvellous invention.
    Ok smarty pants, I know about Amazon. I just wondered if there was a more thorough way. Guess not huh?
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    Quote Originally Posted by Inspiewriter View Post
    If you wrote it, it's your original work.
    Yes, but they want to know how mine differs from all the other titles out there. I don't know if my manuscripts subject matter has ever been written about. However, I don't want to pitch such a bold statement when I'm not sure it's true. See what I'm saying?
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    Talk to a librarian. Sometimes you can get lucky and find a very knowledgeable one who has read a lot and can let you know if they've read something similar. If you belong to a crit group, that's another group of people to ask.
    The English language has a wealth of words.
    Make your words count. Say something.
    Let your words pull at your readers' emotions.

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    Hey, great idea! Thanks Storyteller5!
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    Quote Originally Posted by Unimportant View Post
    ... it also shows that they charge a $25 reading fee with each submission.
    No, the website states they only charge a fee for mss sent via snail mail.
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    In every query you have to convince an agent your book isn't like any other book out there. This is the part where you sell your story and your writing. If it was easy, it'd be . . . well, easy.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Silver King View Post
    Are they charging you anything to submit your work?
    This is a good question. Are they? Because if they are... well, don't pay them anything.
    QueryTracker version 5 is now up and running.

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    Quote Originally Posted by justpat View Post
    This is a good question. Are they? Because if they are... well, don't pay them anything.
    They only charge a $25 unsolicited ms viewing fee, if the ms is sent snail mail.
    What the difference is, I don't know. Do you?
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    Quote Originally Posted by bikerchick View Post
    They only charge a $25 unsolicited ms viewing fee, if the ms is sent snail mail.
    What the difference is, I don't know. Do you?
    Anything over $0.00 is too much. If they are charging you a fee to view it they aren't making money selling/publishing books, they are making money taking submissions.

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    Whoa! I'm hearing alarms going off here, bikerchick. A questionnaire is unusual in and of itself and now it's combined with a reading fee, however nominal? Who are you submitting to?

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    Don't lick that stamp. Slowly put the envelope down and start researching this site for some background info on who you are submitting to. It's like sending it to me with the $25.00. I'll just give it a glance and go buy myself more beer.

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